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ok hi i have been off line for about 3 months but i am back and i have something to get rated please.

ok i am vsing my friend (who i know there pokes i will post there pokes in a sec so u can tell me what to use)

here are some of the pokes i can use just tell me a group of 6 out of them and what order.

(though i can not show u stats but the stats are very high for both of us)
blaziken
FLAMETHROWER
EATHQUAKE
AREAL ACE
SKY UPPERCUT
ROCK SLIDE

SCEPTILE (MY PERSONAL FAV)
EARTHQUAKE
DRAGON CLAW
AREAL ACE
LEAF BLADE

MEWTWO
ICE BEAM
FLAMETHROWER
THUNDERBOLT
PSYCHIC

BLISSY (VERY HIGH STATS FOR AN AVERAGE BLISSY)
PSYCHIC
SOLFTBOILT
FLAMETHROWER
CALM MIND

RAYQUAZA
ICE BEAM
SURF
FLAMETHROWER OR EATHQUAKE FORGOT
DRAGON CLAW

KYOGRE
THUNDER (RAIN)
WATER SPOUT
ICE BEAM
EARTHQUAKE

CLEFABLE (LOLZ BUT GOOD)
THUNDERBOLT
ICE BEAM
SOFTBOILD
FLAMETHROWER / METRONOME (NOT SURE I AM A RISK TAKER SO I LIKE METRONOME)

tell me what 6 to use against the pokes below my friend owns and if possible would i benifit from a double battle or not?

my friend has and 100% will use some of these

articuno (fast speed, mind reader than sheer cold)
tyranitar (all out power)
charizard (like tyran)
garchomp (not sure though what moves)
raiku (just spark, thunder etc..)
entei (flame + overheat is the only problem)

that will be his team.

thanks in advance

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Spartian wrote:
Can u please help me with these pokes
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{flygon}
crunch
dragonbreath
sandstorm
hp fighting
Sandstorm is not to be used by Flygon - it is one of its worst options. HP Fighting also has no place on most Flygon sets. Flygon is a physically based sweeper. Earthquake and Rock Slide are thus to go on. However, because Flygon's physical movepool consists of those 2 moves and many useless ones, we use 2 special based moves to supplement. Dragon Claw means high powered STAB, and Flamethrower + Dragon Claw = no resist.

{blaziken}
slash
peck
sky uppercut
blaze kick
Good crtitiken requires a scope lens as the item and focus energy > peck

Or, go for Stat-Upping sweeper
~Swords Dance/Bulk Up
~Flamethrower
~Sky Uppercut
~Rocks Slide




sean wrote:
ok hi i have been off line for about 3 months but i am back and i have something to get rated please.

ok i am vsing my friend (who i know there pokes i will post there pokes in a sec so u can tell me what to use)

here are some of the pokes i can use just tell me a group of 6 out of them and what order.

(though i can not show u stats but the stats are very high for both of us)
blaziken
FLAMETHROWER
EATHQUAKE
AREAL ACE
SKY UPPERCUT
ROCK SLIDE

SCEPTILE (MY PERSONAL FAV)
EARTHQUAKE
DRAGON CLAW
AREAL ACE
LEAF BLADE

MEWTWO
ICE BEAM
FLAMETHROWER
THUNDERBOLT
PSYCHIC

BLISSY (VERY HIGH STATS FOR AN AVERAGE BLISSY)
PSYCHIC
SOLFTBOILT
FLAMETHROWER
CALM MIND

RAYQUAZA
ICE BEAM
SURF
FLAMETHROWER OR EATHQUAKE FORGOT
DRAGON CLAW

KYOGRE
THUNDER (RAIN)
WATER SPOUT
ICE BEAM
EARTHQUAKE

CLEFABLE (LOLZ BUT GOOD)
THUNDERBOLT
ICE BEAM
SOFTBOILD
FLAMETHROWER / METRONOME (NOT SURE I AM A RISK TAKER SO I LIKE METRONOME)

tell me what 6 to use against the pokes below my friend owns and if possible would i benifit from a double battle or not?

my friend has and 100% will use some of these

articuno (fast speed, mind reader than sheer cold)
tyranitar (all out power)
charizard (like tyran)
garchomp (not sure though what moves)
raiku (just spark, thunder etc..)
entei (flame + overheat is the only problem)

that will be his team.

thanks in advance


I can't rate this...
1.) All Caps = SHOUTING!!!!!
2.) You mention your opponent has Garchomp - a non RSE/FrLg pokemon. Please edit your opponent's team.


Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:04 pm
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I'm about to get my sixth badge on Ruby:

Gardevoir, Lv. 49:
Thunderbolt
Double Team
Calm Mind
Psychic

Crobat, Lv. 50
Poison Fang
Confuse Ray
Return
Air Cutter (I think Wing Attack is better)

Blaziken, Lv. 50
Bulk Up
Slash
Double Kick (I want Sky Uppercut)
Flamethrower

Armaldo, Lv. 51
Ancientpower
Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Strength (until I can get Earthquake)

Kingdra, Lv. 50
Surf
Agility (change, please
Twister (when does it learn Dragonbreath?)
Ice Beam


I need some advice for switching out moves, the items they should hold, and what I should use for the number six slot.

Please keep in mind that I am not on Emerald, so I can't clone TMs. (Although I thought Brick Break and Aerial Ace to Armaldo before I traded it to Ruby) And I only have five badges.


On Emerald:

Sceptile, Lv. 71:
Leaf Blade
Dragon Claw
Protect
Return

Swampert, Lv. 71:
Earthquake
Mud Shot (How do I teach it Counter?)
Hyper Beam
Surf

Alakazam, Lv. 71:
Psychic
Shock Wave
Recover
Shadow Ball

Ludicolo, Lv. 71:
Toxic
Surf
Giga Drain
Double Team

Blaziken, Lv. 84
Fire Punch
Slash
Sky Uppercut
Earthquake

Rayquaza, Lv. 92
Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Outrage

Thanks in advance.


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Shott133 wrote:
Kingdra, Lv. 50
Surf
Agility (change, please
Twister (when does it learn Dragonbreath?)
Ice Beam

Kingdra only learns Dragonbreath as an egg move.

Shott133 wrote:
Swampert, Lv. 71:
Earthquake
Mud Shot (How do I teach it Counter?)
Hyper Beam
Surf

Counter is either an Egg Move or a Tutored Move; The Counter Move Tutor costs 48 BP, and is in the Battle Frontier.

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Well, for those of you bored enough to rate my teams, here it is:

My ober-awesome FireRed team is:

Charizard
-Fly (should I replace with Aerial Ace?)
-Dig (will probably replace with Earthquake in the near feature)
-Dragon Claw
-Flamethrower

Snorlax (with Leftovers)
-Blizzard
-Earthquake
-Hyper Beam
-Psychic

Alakazam
-Psychic
-Shock Wave
-Shadow Ball
-Recover

Nidoking
-Megahorn
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Brick Break

Zapdos
-Steel Wing
-Thunderbolt
-Thunder Wave
-Drill Peck

Vaporeon
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Bite (yeah, I know it's sucky)
-Hydro Pump (should I replace with Acid Armor?)

My slightly suckier Ruby team is:

Blaziken (with King's Rock)
-Sky Uppercut
-Blaze Kick (might replace with Flamethrower)
-Mirror Move
-Slash
Altaria
-Fly
-Solarbeam
-Dragon Claw
-Flamethrower

Aggron (with Quick Claw)
-Surf
-Dig (Earthquake later hopefully)
-Iron Tail
-Double-Edge

Wally the Walrein (with NeverMeltIce)
-Ice Beam
-Earthquake
-Blizzard
-Surf

My not-so-mighty Mightyena (with Blackglasses)
-Iron Tail
-Facade
-Crunch
-Toxic

I'm seriously considering retiring Mightyena. What do you think?

Gardevoir
-Shadow Ball
-Psychic
-Shock Wave
-Light Screen


As you can see, I'm a sweepy kind of guy. What do you think about it?


Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:32 pm
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Xnux wrote:
Blaziken (with King's Rock)
-Sky Uppercut
-Blaze Kick (might replace with Flamethrower)
-Mirror Move (Not really a reliable move)
-Slash


Two good movesets for your Blaziken:

w/???? (not sure)
-Sky Uppercut/Double Kick (depends on if you prefer higher accuracy for a little less power)
-Swords Dance/Bulk Up (depends on if you want to raise your defense or not in battle
-Slash
-Earthquake/Blaze Kick (depends on if you want STAB or if you want to use your physical attack power)

w/Scope Lens
-Slash (high ratio)
-Blaze Kick (high ratio)
-Focus Energy
-Sky Uppercut/Double Kick (Double Kick gives two chances to get a critical hit, so you could be better off, but again a choice between power and accuracy)


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Shott133 wrote:
I'm about to get my sixth badge on Ruby:

Gardevoir, Lv. 49:
Thunderbolt
Double Team
Calm Mind
Psychic
Will-o-Wisp or Hypnosis > Double Team. WoW helps with survival, while Hypnosis allows you to power up safely.

Crobat, Lv. 50
Poison Fang
Confuse Ray
Return
Air Cutter (I think Wing Attack is better)
@Choice band - Sludge Bomb, Shadow Ball, Aerial Ace, and Confuse Ray or a physical Hidden Power - starved for moves, Confuse ray works okay.

Blaziken, Lv. 50
Bulk Up
Slash
Double Kick (I want Sky Uppercut)
Flamethrower
It will learn Sky Uppercut soon. Rock Slide would be a nice addition > slash. Simple breed.

Armaldo, Lv. 51
Ancientpower
Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Strength (until I can get Earthquake)
If you can, get rock slide > ancient power. Otherwise, you're good.

Kingdra, Lv. 50
Surf
Agility (change, please
Twister (when does it learn Dragonbreath?)
Ice Beam
Actually, Agility is the best it will do unless you get HP Electric. Sorry.

I need some advice for switching out moves, the items they should hold, and what I should use for the number six slot.

Please keep in mind that I am not on Emerald, so I can't clone TMs. (Although I thought Brick Break and Aerial Ace to Armaldo before I traded it to Ruby) And I only have five badges.
A decent fighting type would be nice - Hariyama/Heracross/Machamp/Medicham. A grass could be nice - Cacturne, Shiftry, Ludicolo from emerald.

On Emerald:

Sceptile, Lv. 71:
Leaf Blade
Dragon Claw
Protect
Return
Get Crunch or Leech Seed > Return. @Leftovers/Lum Berry.

Swampert, Lv. 71:
Earthquake
Mud Shot (How do I teach it Counter?)
Hyper Beam
Surf
Actually, Rock Slide > Mud shot. Hyper Beam needs Ditching - Counter isn't an egg move, rather a tutored one. You could go with Mirror Coat, Roar, rest, substitute - so many options. :O

Alakazam, Lv. 71:
Psychic
Shock Wave
Recover
Shadow Ball
Thunderpunch and ICe Punch > Shock wave + Shadow Ball. Why? Shadow Ball is physical, working off of a deplorable attack. Thunderpunch has more power than shock wave, plus a chance of paralyis, without much loss in accuracy.

Ludicolo, Lv. 71:
Toxic
Surf
Giga Drain
Double Team
Breed for Leech Seed > Double Team, and wait for Rain Dance > Toxic. Mega Drain may serve you better with the increase in pp.

Blaziken, Lv. 84
Fire Punch
Slash
Sky Uppercut
Earthquake
Flamethrower > Fire Punch, really would have liked Rock Slide in there, but w/e. Thunderpunch > Slash.

Rayquaza, Lv. 92
Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Outrage
You may want to go with a persim berry for an item if you are running outrage, or use dragon claw instead.

Thanks in advance.
No problem.



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Its uber or 00ber, not ober.
Charizard - Dig can work well if you want to save the tm, as he still won't be taking Damage from EQ (lol, flying types using Dig), and this is ingame, so there will be little switching by the opponent. You can leave fly, or use Wing Attack/Aerial Ace (save the tm, as Aerial Ace is essentially Wing attack that negates double team.)

Snorlax - No Hyper Beam - no, never. Blizzard sucks (welcome to the newer generations where it isn't 90%, but more like 70%), and Psychic coming off of its special attack woouldn't dent a piece of paper. Body Slam/Return, Earthquake, Rest, and Yawn/Brick Break is good for in-game.

Alakazam - see my comments above, with the other guy.

Nidoking - Leave Mega Horn and Brick Break, throw on Sludge Bomb and Shadow Ball > special moves.

Zapdos - Drill Peck is cool, as is Thunderbolt and Thunderwave, but no steel wing - maybe Reflect or Light Screen instead.

Vaporeon - cool baton passer potential - use it.
Vaporeon @Leftovers
Bold 252 HP, 128 Def, 128 Speed
~Baton Pass
~Substitute
~Surf/Ice Beam
~Surf/Ice Beam/Wish/Acid Armor

^^Tah Dah!

Ruby Team
-> Blaziken can run a critiken set - Blaze Kick, Sky Uppercut, Focus Energy, Slash @Scope Lens for Criticals left and right.
->Altaria is a cool Defensive Dragon, and distinguishes itself from salamence with Rest + Natural Cure, Ice beam, and Sing. Leave off sing, but Ice Beam and Rest are cool. For the last two moves, leave dragon claw and flamethrower, as nothing resists.
->Quick Claw sounds cool on aggron, and is funny when it activates. The question is if it will activate. Thus, don't use it. Instead, make sure it has Rock Head ability, use Double Edge, EQ, Rock Slide, and Metal Claw/Iron Tail (I hate Iron Tail's accuracy, so yeah).
->Ditch the Blizzard on Walrein, and instead use Curse or Rest. Thats all. Oh, body slam has uses as well.
->Ditch Mightyenna for Breloom or Cacturne. Mightyenna deserves a stamp...


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->For gardevoir, see my comments with the other guy.


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Peanut-Lover wrote:
Shott133 wrote:
I'm about to get my sixth badge on Ruby:

Gardevoir, Lv. 49: (Lv. 57)
Thunderbolt
Double Team
Calm Mind
Psychic
Will-o-Wisp or Hypnosis > Double Team. WoW helps with survival, while Hypnosis allows you to power up safely.
Sounds good, except now it's level 57 and the chance to get it already passed. I guess I'll use a Heart Scale.


Crobat, Lv. 50 (Lv. 60)
Poison Fang
Confuse Ray
Return
Air Cutter (I think Wing Attack is better)
@Choice band - Sludge Bomb, Shadow Ball, Aerial Ace, and Confuse Ray or a physical Hidden Power - starved for moves, Confuse ray works okay.
I can get a Choice Band in the Battle Tower, right?

Blaziken, Lv. 50 (Lv. 60)
Bulk Up
Slash
Sky Uppercut
Flamethrower
It will learn Sky Uppercut soon. Rock Slide would be a nice addition > slash. Simple breed.

Armaldo, Lv. 51 (Lv. 60)
Ancientpower
Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Strength (until I can get Earthquake)
If you can, get rock slide > ancient power. Otherwise, you're good.


Kingdra, Lv. 50 (Lv. 60)
Surf
Agility (change, please
Twister (when does it learn Dragonbreath?)
Ice Beam
Actually, Agility is the best it will do unless you get HP Electric. Sorry.

I need some advice for switching out moves, the items they should hold, and what I should use for the number six slot.

Please keep in mind that I am not on Emerald, so I can't clone TMs. (Although I thought Brick Break and Aerial Ace to Armaldo before I traded it to Ruby) And I only have five badges.
A decent fighting type would be nice - Hariyama/Heracross/Machamp/Medicham. A grass could be nice - Cacturne, Shiftry, Ludicolo from emerald.
Before this post was ever made, I traded a Machoke from Emerald, so now I have a Machamp, about Lv. 40 now. Any suggestions for a good moveset?

On Emerald:

Sceptile, Lv. 71:
Leaf Blade
Dragon Claw
Protect
Return
Get Crunch or Leech Seed > Return. @Leftovers/Lum Berry.

Swampert, Lv. 71:
Earthquake
Mud Shot (How do I teach it Counter?)
Hyper Beam
Surf
Actually, Rock Slide > Mud shot. Hyper Beam needs Ditching - Counter isn't an egg move, rather a tutored one. You could go with Mirror Coat, Roar, rest, substitute - so many options. :O
Could I go with a Substitute/Focus Punch combo instead of Mud Shot and Hyper Beam?

Alakazam, Lv. 71:
Psychic
Shock Wave
Recover
Shadow Ball
Thunderpunch and ICe Punch > Shock wave + Shadow Ball. Why? Shadow Ball is physical, working off of a deplorable attack. Thunderpunch has more power than shock wave, plus a chance of paralyis, without much loss in accuracy.
I really don't have the patience to breed, and I'm not good at the Frontier, so I'll have to either get patience or get better at my strategy. And I wasn't aware that Shadow Ball was a physical move.

Ludicolo, Lv. 71:
Toxic
Surf
Giga Drain
Double Team
Breed for Leech Seed > Double Team, and wait for Rain Dance > Toxic. Mega Drain may serve you better with the increase in pp.
This Ludicolo is really a complete fail without Rain Dish. So I'll probably either breed or dump this completely.

Blaziken, Lv. 84
Flamethrower
Slash
Sky Uppercut
Earthquake
Flamethrower > Fire Punch, really would have liked Rock Slide in there, but w/e. Thunderpunch > Slash.
I'm not really good at the battle frontier, but I'll try.

Rayquaza, Lv. 92
Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Outrage
You may want to go with a persim berry for an item if you are running outrage, or use dragon claw instead.
It always has one.

Thanks in advance.
No problem.



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There's a big question simply because it's leaf green - can you get electabuzz? You can get Magmar at Mt.Ember, but Electabuzz is Fire Red exclusive.
Magmar does come in handy, but see Dragonite without the ice weakness.
Back to the possible electric replacement - zapdos is a legend, and many are opposed to in-game use of legends. There's also a good choice in Magneton - despite being slow, it has defenses, power, and resistances.

Dewgong is pretty good - bold of you to forgo lapras, but decent. I'm sure many smile on you.

Aero is good - Aerial Ace/Wing attack (TM question), Earthquake, Rock Slide, and Double-Edge is the typical (though not practical) moveset with rock head. You may actually do better with Golem or Rhydon - the speed is lower, but their level-up sets are such that you don't waste tutors and tms.

What would be really nice (because this is still kanto) is a decent psychic - Alakazam, Hypno, Jynx, Slowbro, Starmie. Each have their plusses and minuses.

Can you get dragonite? Surf/Focus Punch/flamethrower, Dragon Claw/flamethrower, Thunderbolt, and Ice beam would be great.

I always advocate dodrio - drill peck, tri-attack, *filler*. Deals with hera, rival's grass, half of bruno's team. Or go with Fearow, because you can..

So, that leaves you with...
~Dewgong
~Aerodactyl/Golem/Rhydon
~Electabuzz/Zapdos/Magneton
~Dragonite
~Jynx/Slowbro/Starmie/Alakazam/Hypno/Exeggutor
~Dodrio/Fearow

Now ask - do I have everyone covered?
Lorelei - Dewgong is slaughtered by the electric. As is cloyster. Jynx goes down to rock blast from rhydon or flamethrower from draggy, as long as they survive the blizzard or psychic. Piloswine can be brought down in much the same way. Lapras sort of needs Maggy,
Bruno - Steelix succumbs to Surf from Dewgong or Dragonite. The actual fighters die to the psychic and dodrio.
Agatha - Psychic, ftw. OHKO on Gengar, Crobat, and Arbok. Misdreavous requires a bit more in terms of though process. Strong STAB
Lance - Gyarados is taken down by t-bolt. Dragonite by Ice beams. aero by almost anything. Kingdra, well - just hit it hard.
Rival - Hera is done by dodrio. T-tar by either f-punch from dragonite, or very powerful earthquakes. Then it depends on your starter.


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Hi, I'm making a spike-team, i need advices ti help me

skarmory@leftovers
spikes
roar/whirlwind
aerial ace
????
->first control pokémon, i love spikes so i need to use leftovers and roar

dusclops@leftovers
will-of-the-wisp
mean look
protect
sismic toss
->second control pokémon, very effective, it must kill the spinners

swampert@shell bell
substitute
focus-pucnh
surf
earthquake
->first aggro pokémon, subpuncher that is combo with shell bell, i use surf in order to use the abylitie "torrent"

metagross@choice bander
meteor mash
psyko
explosion
earthquake
->second aggro pokémon, i think choicebander is good with these moves

this is my four pokémon fort he base of my spike-team

there are ideas of pokémon for my team

manectric@lens scope: thunderbolt, roar, thunder-wave, HP grass/ice
starmir@shell bell: recover, surf, thunderbolt, ice-beam
salamence@shell bell:flammethrower, dragon claw, ice-beam, Hp grass
altaria@leftovers:rest, dragon claw, flammethrower, safeguard (with rest?)
gardevoir@leftovers: cal mind, psychic, thunderbolt, imprison

please help me!

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Skarmory = excellent spiker. But, Drill Peck > Aerial Ace, and rest > ???

Dusclops is good as an anti-spin - rapid spin doesn't work if no damage is done. However, A problem with dusclops is that it needs to have hp recovery, so pain split > protect.

Sup-punch swapert isn't seen that much, mainly because Curspert (Curse, EQ, Rock Slide, Rest) is much better overall. However, this is good, but just a few minor changes - rock slide > Surf because of the split EVs (an RS + EQ = 2 resists). Leftovers may be considered here, as you have lots of hp, and shell bell replaces miniscule amounts.

Metagross may have STAB in Psychic, but it unfortunately lacks the special attack. Either agility (with leftovers replaced) or maybe another rock slide. Prefferably agility.

2 spots, and lots to cover. Starmie is prefferable, mainly for bolt-beam and rapid spin. Leech Seeding Sceptile is good. Gardevoir is also good, as is girafarig (wish and crunch).
What I need to know is - what other versons do you have access to?


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Thanks, i'm working on my future spiketeam (i play only in emerald, i can't exchange or clone)

The base of my team:

{skarmory}@leftovers
Spikes (very good attack to help others pokémon)
Roar (best move with spikes)
Air cutter (i have no time to breed, i prefer to keep aerial ace for others pokémons)
Other
->Starter, control pokémon, only here to put 3 spikes then go

{swampert}@Shell Bell (how does it get curse?
Earthquake (logic)
Rock slide (against dragons)
Surf/Focus punch/other/endeavor
Substitute/other
->Principal aggro pokémon, it will be cool if it has a great staying power

{dusclops}@leftovers
Mean look (trap spinners ennemies)
Protect (pp wasting mode)
Will-of-the-wisp (some kind of protection too)
Seismic toss
->Friend of skarmory, it traps and kills the ennemy spinner, very control pokémon

Others pokémons(suggestions)

{manectric}@????
Thunder waves
Thunder bolt
Roar
other
->Parawinder and aggro pokémon, roar has synergy with skarmory

{gardevoir}@leftovers
Thunder waves
Thunder bolt
Calm mind
Psychic
->aggro control pokémon, paralyse then renforce, then strikes

{gyarados}@????
Thunder waves
Earthquake (against electric and rock)
Return
Dragon dance
->See gardevoir

{grumpig}@leftovers
Rest
Thunder punch
Calm mind
Psychic
->See gardevoir, more control with rest

{claydol}@leftovers
Cosmic power
Rapid spin
Earthquake/Psychic
Rockslide/Ice beam
->control pokémon+anti-spinner

{houndoom}@Shell Bell
Flamethrower
Crunch
Roar
other
->very aggro poképon, roar is synergic with skarmory

so, what do suggest to me?

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Skarms is good.

Swampert is okay - if you wanted to counter dragons, ice beam (4x weakness on most) is better. Just that the EVs would be split. Rock Slide, EQ, focus Punch, Substitute.

Dusclops - my want pain split instead of mean look, simply for health.

Gradevoir, Houndoom, Blissey are your other good options. they are your best


Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:35 pm
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thanks, but gardevoir is not as good as i expected, i outed it, houndoom too fragile, i found my rest of my team

{skarmory}@leftovers
Spikes
Roar
Air cutter
????
->starter/physical sponge/psedo-haser

{dusclops}@leftovers
Mean look
WOW
Night shade
Protect
->double sponge/trapper/PP waster/annoyer

{swampert}@shell bell
Substitute
Surf
Earthquake
Ice beam
->sweeper

{gyarados}@Shell bell
Thunder waves
Earthquake/Rock slide
Surf/Ice beam
aerial ace/return/body slam
->sweeper

{chimecho}@leftovers
Heal bell
Yawn
Psychic
Reflect
->Heal-beller/pseudo-haser/pseudo-passer

{claydol}@leftovers
Rapid spin
Light screen
Rest
Psychic/Earthquake/Ice beam

I've tried Chimecho and it's great (nor as Blissey of course butit is ok), i'll also try {miltank}

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For {skarmory}, put a Chesto berry on it and make its last move Rest. I also had Drill peck on it rather than Air Cutter. Try to get Drill peck or Aerial Ace over Air Cutter. Get it with Sturdy ability.

As for {dusclops}, I believe that Seismic toss is better than Night Shade, as I think you'll encounter pokemon with a normal type than a ghost type more often...Also maybe toxic over protect, its defenses are pretty good (protect isn't that necessary) and you already have mean look on it for trappping.

And well..
{gyarados}
Earthquake/Rockslide
Aerial Ace /Return/Bodyslam
Surf/Ice Beam

{claydol}
Psychic/Earthquake/Ice Beam

I guess that's what I'd do

Oh and if you're trying {miltank} maybe..

{miltank} @leftovers
Thunderwave
Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Body Slam/Return

I've never had one before, but i suppose that's how I'd make it

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thanks cherrygrove, but PPwasting with protect is really awesome, just imagine an icebeam countered by that or an attack like blizzard! 2PP/5-10 in the ass! simply great!, for seismic toss/night shade i'll simply use both (i'll get toss after the elite 4, night shade is ok until this)

for {gyarados} rockslide and surf are ok, thunder waves is here to have an long-term useful attack and i have a question: is return more powerful than body slam? if yes it makes me économize 48 BP (i have also seen frustration on a battle frontier gyarados make more than 95% dammage to my ennemies, i was :shock: )

for {skarmory} i think i'll keep air cutter (cannot breed have no time and only emerald) and i prefer to keep aerial ace. Rest is ok.

for {Claydol} i'll use it only for rapid spin, otherwise i don't like it at all and i don't want to use EQ on it, i'll learn it psychic

for heal beller, miltank is definitively >chimecho, i'll use the second before the elite and th other after.

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Return's power varies, however its max base power is 102, it all depends on how happy your pokemon is (by the high levels it should be at max happiness, if not you can raise the pokemon's happiness other ways, check here.)

Body Slam's power is 85, however, but it does have a 30% chance to paralyze.

Frustration works pretty much the same as Return, except the less happy it is, the more powerful the attack (again, 102 max base power). Also, it's really easy to get the happiness down to zero, just give it a lot of energy roots, or revival herbs, or those kinds of things.

However, by the Elite 4, your {gyarados} should be happy enough to have return's base power higher than body slam's. Also I'm pretty sure that the guy that gives you return will only do so if your pokemon is pretty damn happy, so that's a good indicator.

Frustration could be the way to go, but remember, the pokemon's happiness rises every time you level up and walk a certain number of steps (I think those are all of the unintentional acts that raise happiness)

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thanks! ;) now i know that return>body slam (i've already thunder wave for paralysing), and just as you said, it's simple to have a great return (i always capture magikarp just after getting the first rod)

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i think i'll play forretress as spiker, only one sweeper (swampert) and some stallers

forretress@leftovers
spikes
rapid spin
HP: ground
rockslide

swampert@leftovers
surf
earthquake
ice beam
substitute

dusclops@leftovers
protect
WOW
night shade
mean look

blissey@leftovers
seismic toss
softboiled
heal bell
thunder waves

i'll work on it

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Forretress does learn Earthquake, you know :wink:

Also, that EQ or Rock slide - plus Explosion.

I don't particularly like Substitute on swampert without focus punch. Rest or Roar would probably be better.

Dusclops - for the eigth time, it needs HP restoration. PAIN SPLIT > Mean Look


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I decided to do a team using only those not so used Pokemon. It wasn't too easy. Tell me if some of these is used popurlary again.

Shuckle
Impish EV: 252 Hp 252 Def
-Hidden power Rock
-Rest
-Toxic
-Wrap
Wall. Pain for those teams who dont have Seismic toss. MAssive 613 defense stat!

Octillery
Modest EV: 6 Hp 252 Spd 252 SpAtt
-Ice beam
-Psychic
-Surf
-Thunder wave
Special attacker. Thunder wave slow enemies down and then crush with superb attacks.

Murkrow
Impish EV: 252 Hp 6 Att 252 Def
-Confuse Ray
-Thunder wave
-Aerial ace
-Whirl wind
Annoyer. Put all that haven't got Toxic or get paralyzed by Octillery to Confusion and Paralyze.

Wigglytuff
Impish EV: 252 Hp 128 Def 128 SpDef
-Reflect
-Rest
-Return
-Toxic
Wall 2. Annoyes also little. Protects the team with reflect.

Sandslash @ Choise band
Adamant EV: 252 Att 252 Spd
-Earthquake
-Rock slide
-Brick break
-Return
Physical sweeper. With decent defense stat and good attack stat this can make lotss of destruction.

Ariados
Adamant EV: 80 Hp 252 Att 176 Spd
-Signal beam
-Return
-Sludge bomb
-Toxic
Physical sweeper 2. Also very powerful.

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{raticate} LV:40 Careful

Pursuit
Super Fang
Quick Attack
Hyper Fang

{parasect} LV:40 Timid

Slash
Toxic
Leech Life
Bullet Seed

{clefable} LV:40 Mild

Strength
Flash
Metronome
Dig

{pidgeot} LV:43 Naive

Wing Attack
Steel Wing
Aerial Ace
Fly

{primeape} LV:46 Timid

Karate Chop
Brick Break
Focus Punch
Cross Chop

{blastoise} LV:47 Jolly

Return
Hydro Cannon
Surf
Earthquake

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{raticate} LV:40 Careful

Pursuit
Super Fang
Quick Attack
Hyper Fang

OK I am not to good with Raticate (seeing as no one ever uses it) so I'll try my best. Shadow Ball over Pursuit. Everything else seems fine I guess.

{parasect} LV:40 Timid

Slash
Toxic
Leech Life
Bullet Seed

Ditch Bullet Seed and but on Giga Drain, use Aromatherapy over Leech Life.

{clefable} LV:40 Mild

Strength
Flash
Metronome
Dig

big change here. Thunder Bolt, Ice Beam, Psychic, and Metronome are good.

{pidgeot} LV:43 Naive

Wing Attack
Steel Wing
Aerial Ace
Fly

No need for 3 Flying moves. Quick Attack instead of Wing Attack, you can try Agility instead of Fly.

{primeape} LV:46 Timid

Karate Chop
Brick Break
Focus Punch
Cross Chop

Again, no need to have more than 1 move of the same type on a Pokemon. Cross Chop can stay. Use Earth Quake, & Rock Slide for Karate Chop & Brick Break. Use Focus Energy for Focus Punch.

{blastoise} LV:47 Jolly

Return
Hydro Cannon
Surf
Earthquake

Ice Beam over Hydro Cannon and your set.


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Pokemaniac wrote:
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{raticate} LV:40 Careful

Pursuit
Super Fang
Quick Attack
Hyper Fang

OK I am not to good with Raticate (seeing as no one ever uses it) so I'll try my best. Shadow Ball over Pursuit. Everything else seems fine I guess.

{parasect} LV:40 Timid

Slash
Toxic
Leech Life
Bullet Seed

Ditch Bullet Seed and but on Giga Drain, use Aromatherapy over Leech Life.

{clefable} LV:40 Mild

Strength
Flash
Metronome
Dig

big change here. Thunder Bolt, Ice Beam, Psychic, and Metronome are good.

{pidgeot} LV:43 Naive

Wing Attack
Steel Wing
Aerial Ace
Fly

No need for 3 Flying moves. Quick Attack instead of Wing Attack, you can try Agility instead of Fly.

{primeape} LV:46 Timid

Karate Chop
Brick Break
Focus Punch
Cross Chop

Again, no need to have more than 1 move of the same type on a Pokemon. Cross Chop can stay. Use Earth Quake, & Rock Slide for Karate Chop & Brick Break. Use Focus Energy for Focus Punch.

{blastoise} LV:47 Jolly

Return
Hydro Cannon
Surf
Earthquake

Ice Beam over Hydro Cannon and your set.



Where can I get these moves (Besides Parasect) if I don't have the TM's?

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Ice beam tm is unlimited at the game corner - its expensive, though. Same with shadow ball.

Psychic is a one-time tm from mr. psychic in saffron.

Rock Slide is a tutor, and earthquake is a rare tm.


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