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TonberryKing
Psypoke Legend
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:28 am Posts: 646
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I've just received an email asking us to put up a guide with the best battle combos. But these combos can extend beyond mere moves.. let's say you can also use abilities. If this topic gets good enough I'll put a copy of it on the main website.
So to get started, here are some very basic combos that can be seen very commonly among battlers:
- Rain Dance + Thunder, Surf
- Sunny Day + Fire Blast, Solarbeam, Moonlight (The famous Sunny Clefable moveset)
- Mean Look + Perish Song
- Rest + Lum Berry
- Rest + Natural Cure
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:44 pm |
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papersun
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska
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Well, there's Belly Drum + Rest, I enjoy that one a lot. And Rest + Marvel Scale.
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:00 pm |
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Dr.DoubleDuel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:08 pm Posts: 200
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Thunder Wave + Attract + Confuse Ray
(Ghost Pokemon Only): Curse + Hypnosis + Dream Eater
Double Team + Agility
Defese Curl + Rollout
Harden + Rollout
Lock-On + Zap Cannon
Lock-On + Tri-Attack
Lock-On + Thunder
Sing + Perish Song
Sing + Refresh
Toxic + Spikes + Sandstorm (Make sure pokemon is Ground, Rock, or Steel)
Belly Drum + Rest
Calm Mind + Psychic
Calm Mind + Psybeam
Mean Look + Destiny Bond
Mean Look + Perish Song
Rest + Sleep Talk
Rest + Snore
Sing + Leer + Howl + Physical Attack
Hope some of these help. Note: theres too many combos with Abilities. I did not add them.
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:01 pm |
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Venumeleon
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:31 pm Posts: 139
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There are some obvious ability-attack combos, like...
Levitate+Earthquake
Swift Swim+Rain Dance
Rain Dish+Rain Dance
Chlorophyll+Sunny Day
Sunny Day+Synthesis/Solarbeam/Morning Sun/Moonlight/Fire attacks
Synchronize+Refresh
Shadow Tag+Perish Song (very rare, but can be pulled off with Skill Swap)
Encore+Counter/Mirror Coat
Rain Dance+Thunder/Water attacks
Traunt+Skill Swap
Swagger+Haze
Flatter+Haze
Swagger+Psych Up
Flatter+Psych Up
Defense Curl+Rollout
Guts+Facade
That's all I can think of right now.
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:49 am |
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Dr.DoubleDuel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:08 pm Posts: 200
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Thought of a few ones for abilities...
Arena Trap + Explosion/Selfdestruct
Battle Armor + Harden/Defense Curl
Color Change + Calm Mind/Harden/Defense Curl
Compundeyes + Sand-Attack/Mud-Slap
Cute Charm + Thunder Wave + Confuse Ray
Flash Fire + Surf
Intimidate + Leer
Levitate + Earthquake
Liquid Ooze + Toxic
Magnet Pull + Flamethrower
Minus + Plus (Plusle and Minun only)
Poison Point + Thunder Wave + Confuse Ray
Shell Armor + Harden/Defense Curl
Speed Boost + Agility + Double Team + Mud-Slap/Sand-Attack
Wonder Guard + Agility + Double Team + Mud-Slap/Sand-Attack
Most of which I haven't really thought out. But this is the main basis.
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:02 am |
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Skorpius
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:04 pm Posts: 45
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Thunderbolt + Ice Beam.
Only a handfull of Pokemon can resist both attacks.
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:32 am |
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Venumeleon
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:31 pm Posts: 139
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Dr.DoubleDuel wrote: Thought of a few ones for abilities...
Levitate + Earthquake
I thought I already mentioned that.
Isomnia+Skill Swap (against Resting Tankers)
Encore+Torment
Encore+Destiny Bond
Arena Trap+Perish Song (via Skill Swap or 2v2)
Hypnosis/Sing/Lovely Kiss+Dream Eater/Nightmare
Encore+Bide
Encore+Taunt (if opponent uses a non-attacking move)
Serene Grace+attack with effect
Compoundeyes+moves with low to medium accuracy
Pressure+Spite
Sand Veil+Sandstorm+Double Team
Guts+Rest+Snore
Torrent+Rain Dance
Blaze+Sunny Day
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:12 am |
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Dr.DoubleDuel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:08 pm Posts: 200
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Oh sorry, I didn't see .
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:14 am |
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Dr.DoubleDuel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:08 pm Posts: 200
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Skorpius wrote: Thunderbolt + Ice Beam.
Only a handfull of Pokemon can resist both attacks.
Oh, sounds interesting. Can you name one? I would like to know .
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:15 am |
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papersun
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska
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Dr.DoubleDuel wrote: Oh, sounds interesting. Can you name one? I would like to know .
I can name two. Skarmory and Blissey.
[n00b] 00b3rs PwN j00 d00d! [/n00b]
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:25 am |
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Dr.DoubleDuel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:08 pm Posts: 200
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papersun wrote:
[n00b] 00b3rs PwN j00 d00d! [/n00b]
Uh....
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:45 am |
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Skorpius
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:04 pm Posts: 45
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Dr.DoubleDuel wrote: Skorpius wrote: Thunderbolt + Ice Beam.
Only a handfull of Pokemon can resist both attacks.
Oh, sounds interesting. Can you name one? I would like to know .
Lanturn 100% resists the two, while Quagsire and Piloswine make it semi-ineffective. That's just off the top of my head.
Skarm is weak to them, and Blissy takes neutral damage. Everyone else either takes a super effective hit to one, or neutral to both.
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:10 am |
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papersun
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska
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Dr.DoubleDuel wrote: papersun wrote:
[n00b] 00b3rs PwN j00 d00d! [/n00b]
Uh....
That translation would be "00bers own you, dude."
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:33 am |
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Dr.DoubleDuel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:08 pm Posts: 200
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I know, I am just wondering why you said it.
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:00 am |
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RaichuLatias
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:50 pm Posts: 1205 Location: Southern Island
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Skorpius wrote: Dr.DoubleDuel wrote: Skorpius wrote: Thunderbolt + Ice Beam.
Only a handfull of Pokemon can resist both attacks.
Oh, sounds interesting. Can you name one? I would like to know .
Lanturn 100% resists the two, while Quagsire and Piloswine make it semi-ineffective. That's just off the top of my head.
Skarm is weak to them, and Blissy takes neutral damage. Everyone else either takes a super effective hit to one, or neutral to both.
Don't be to sure, Thunderbolt is super effective on water types and not very effective on electric, so it would be just normal effective, this is if it didn't have Volt Absorb.
And I think TK was talking about moves that work well with each other, not just 2 moves.
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:53 am |
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Skorpius
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:04 pm Posts: 45
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A Lanturn without Volt Absorb isn't smart.
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:18 pm |
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papersun
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska
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Skorpius wrote: A Lanturn without Volt Absorb isn't smart.
But a Lanturn with Swift Swim pawns Ky00ber.
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Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:19 pm |
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Mr. Saturn
Ace Trainer
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:09 pm Posts: 398
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papersun wrote: Skorpius wrote: A Lanturn without Volt Absorb isn't smart.
But a Lanturn with Swift Swim pawns Ky00ber.
Lanturn doesn't get swift swim, last i checked. only volt absorb and illuminate. besides, volt absorb knocks a whole move out of Kyogre's repertoire, as opposed to just resisting it...
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:32 am |
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papersun
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:10 am Posts: 710 Location: Nebraska
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It doesn't, does it? My mistake. Got it confused with Ludicolo.
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Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:30 pm |
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Platinumdelcatty
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:24 pm Posts: 14
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Skorpius wrote: Thunderbolt + Ice Beam.
Only a handfull of Pokemon can resist both attacks.
i can name em Weezing, koffing, Sableye, Lanturn and Chinchou with Volt Absorb, Steelix, Scizor, thats more than a handfull its 7
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Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:33 pm |
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JsXtm
Gym Leader
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:34 pm Posts: 2204 Location: Madison, WI
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Platinumdelcatty wrote: Skorpius wrote: Thunderbolt + Ice Beam.
Only a handfull of Pokemon can resist both attacks.
i can name em Weezing, koffing, Sableye, Lanturn and Chinchou with Volt Absorb, Steelix, Scizor, thats more than a handfull its 7
7. Out of 386 in the Advanced Gen. That IS a handful.
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:53 am |
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DNA
Trivia Champion
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:37 pm Posts: 3170 Location: clegavel
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It said "resist", not "is not weak to", PlatinumDelcatty. Magneton, Lanturn w/Volt Absorb, and Shedinja are the only ones that can resist both.
Weezing resists neither.
Sableye resists neither.
Steelix resists Bolt only.
Scizor resists Beam only.
Lanturn was the only one right on that list.
So that is only 5/386 (if you count Chinchou and Magnemite) in the Advanced Gen. (In Sinnoh, it's 6/493, with Magnezone involved.)
Seriously, you could have at least made that bump constructive.
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:28 pm |
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koipen
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:01 am Posts: 274
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Earthquake + Levitate/Flying. That's why Tate and Liza are hard cause Claydol can use the Earhquake without damaging any pokemon.
Stat-up move + Attack
Thunder wave + Confuse ray + Attract (Raichu)
Trapping move + Toxic + Sandstorm (Shuckle)
Substitute + Belly drum + Salac berry (With Hp divisble by 4) (Charizard)
Endure + Salac + Reversal (+ Belly drum) (Heracross
In 2 vs 2 battle
Poke 1: Explosion
Poke 2: Endure + Endeavor/Reversal + Salac berry
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Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:47 am |
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hammythepig
Ace Trainer
Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:57 am Posts: 302 Location: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
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With using his Drought ablility, Solarbeam doesn't need to "take in sunlight".
It hits in one attack!!!!!!
and his ability with Thunder are good to. (Thunder hits 100% of the time when its raining)
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