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James86134
I got -10200 in Jeopardy
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:31 pm Posts: 714 Location: Obsessing over my paper cranes (props to whoever gets this reference, no one will)
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We all know the three starters always have been Fire, Water, Grass. But most of the time they have had a second typing as they evolved. Bulbasaur had poison as well as grass. Charmander got Flying with Fire as it evolved. Torchic got Fire and Fighting. Mudkip got Ground ( I think?) as well as water. Turtwig got Ground and Grass as it changed. Chimchar (unfortunately) got fire and fighting. Piplup got Steel as well as Water. Then came Generation 5. Tepig got Fighting and Fire(Ugh...). The newest Generation 6 has unveiled its first evolution pokemon. No one is yet to know what their second typing is (if any). Chespin, Fenniken and Froakie. People have speculated that Fenniken may be the second (after Victini) Fire and Psychic pokemon. But it also could be Fire and Fighting (just like every other Fire type starter ). Chespin has not really had any speculation. Froakie has had it's evolutions awaited. So the big question remains.
WHAT WILL BE THE SECOND TYPING FOR EACH STARTER?
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:17 pm |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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My expectations for the types : Grass/Ground - Fire/Psychic - Water/Ice My hopes for the Grass type : Grass/Steel, Grass/Rock or Grass/Fighting(preferably the later one this time) My hopes for the Fire type : Fire/Psychic, Fire/Ice, Fire/Ghost, Fire/Electric, Fire/Poison(preferably the 3rd...or 4th one this time) My hopes for the Water type : Water/Fighting, Water/Psychic or Water/Poison(preferably the former one)
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:32 pm |
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DragoBoy
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 6:13 am Posts: 518
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My guesses: Grass: Ground/Fighting/Dark Fire: Psychic Water: Ice/Fighting/Dark
It would be cool if they were Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic and Water/Fighting then they'd all be super effective against each other.
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:19 pm |
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kesha140
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:06 am Posts: 16
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based on the trailer, i think Fennekin will be fire/ psychic. I think Froakie will be Water/ Fighting. And I think Chespin will be either Grass/ Ground, Grass, or Grass/ Dark
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:51 pm |
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vaporterra
Ace Trainer
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:42 pm Posts: 443 Location: North America
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I'm not really sure nor am I too picky about the types. I really hope Fennekin doesn't end up being Fire/Fighting otherwise I'll never hear the end of it from dissapointed fans. I don't think I'll have to worry about that though if the trailer has anything to do with it. However think of this: Chespin Grass/Dark, Fenekin Fire/Psychic, and Froakie Water/Fighting. That way each starter would have an advantage and a disadvantage against each other. That would be interesting.
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:55 pm |
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James86134
I got -10200 in Jeopardy
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:31 pm Posts: 714 Location: Obsessing over my paper cranes (props to whoever gets this reference, no one will)
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I can't really see such a cute pokemon like Chespin being a Dark type. But if he is. HE WILL BE MINE! I would like the advantage and disadvantage against each other so everything becomes neutral.
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:18 pm |
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vaporterra
Ace Trainer
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:42 pm Posts: 443 Location: North America
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Well Seedot ended up evolving into a Dark/Grass type and it may not be as cute as Chespin but still. Dark isn't necessarily evil it's just associated with like night or something.
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:11 pm |
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ChillBill
Pokemon Master
Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 8:10 am Posts: 1143 Location: Beyond the realms of death...
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My guesses: Fennekin: Fire/Psychic Chespin: Grass/Ground or Grass/Fighting Froakie: Water or Water/Ground
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twistedturtwig
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:33 am Posts: 1214 Location: Pretty much anywhere, and always running
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My guess for the starters' types:
Chespin: Grass/Fighting or Grass/Dark Fenniken: Fire/Psychic Froakie: Water/Dark or Water/Fighting
With these combinations, either the Pokemon have weaknesses to both of the normally advantaged Pokemon's types, or they have a counter to one of them. I'd personally hope for it to be the prior, as I'd love to see Chespin be Grass/Dark, and it'd make it more challenging.
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:10 pm |
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DragoBoy
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 6:13 am Posts: 518
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If the secondary types are a dark/fighting/psychic trio (which I hope it is) I think the moves the used may be a clue to who gets what type. -Fenniken uses what appears to be a psychic type move -Chespin attacks Golurk, so that rules fighting out (and Golurk is weak to dark) -That leaves Froakie with fiighting (and patrat is weak to fighting)
That way each of them has a super-effective STAB attack on the other.
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:03 pm |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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I agree DragoBoy, that would be cool if they had that Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic, Water/Fighting thing going on as their secondary typing respectively...it would do a better job of what Gen 4 was trying to do with the secondary typing of their starter pokemon...
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:41 pm |
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DNA
Trivia Champion
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:37 pm Posts: 3170 Location: clegavel
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I've heard Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic, and Water/Fighting being thrown around. That would actually work well since you have the two opposite triangles working here. But as for me personally, I don't really care much about the final evolution's typing, except for 2 things: ~If there are any dual-types, at least 2 of them have to be dual-typed, preferably all 3. ~Fennekin's final evolution must be Fire/Fighting type. (caution: link has 1 swear in it)
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:20 pm |
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vaporterra
Ace Trainer
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:42 pm Posts: 443 Location: North America
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That was hilarious DNA! Great picture! Blaziken (Gen IV): Ok Infernape's another Fire/Fighting it's just one more no biggie. Blaziken (Gen V): Ok Emboar's Fire/Fighting as well? This is ridiculous! Blaziken (Gen VI): Fennekin, the pressure's on. You better be any other type combination than Fire/Fighting when you evolve.
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:20 pm |
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ChillBill
Pokemon Master
Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 8:10 am Posts: 1143 Location: Beyond the realms of death...
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That's my Blaziken!
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Frost
THE POWER IS ON!
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:29 am Posts: 1581 Location: Purple Ranger
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I demand Fennekin's final evolution to be Fire/Fighting so I can feed on everybody's tears. <3
Emboar getting so much hatred just because of his type. The only suggestion I ever see people put out there for what combination he should have been is Fire/Ground and Camerupt -- a fellow slow, frail Fire/Ground-type -- isn't exactly lighting up the world of competitive battling so meh. It's kind of like how some people think Empoleon should have been Water/Ice even though his actual typing is far, far better.
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:33 am |
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vaporterra
Ace Trainer
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:42 pm Posts: 443 Location: North America
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Camerupt isn't totally frail but it just has very common weaknesses. And it is slow but it's a camel it's not meant to be fast.
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:42 am |
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DNA
Trivia Champion
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:37 pm Posts: 3170 Location: clegavel
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Frost wrote: I demand Fennekin's final evolution to be Fire/Fighting so I can feed on everybody's tears. <3 I and several other friends of mine demand this also, for the exact same reason.
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:40 pm |
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Frost
THE POWER IS ON!
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:29 am Posts: 1581 Location: Purple Ranger
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vaporterra wrote: Camerupt isn't totally frail but it just has very common weaknesses. And it is slow but it's a camel it's not meant to be fast. 70/70/75 has never been particularly sturdy but considering all of the offensive powerhouses in Generation V, yes, it's pretty damn frail. And Emboar, while he has much better HP, also has lower Defenses and lacks Solid Rock, so he really wouldn't be too much different from the NU-dwelling Camerupt if he had that typing.
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:49 pm |
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ChillBill
Pokemon Master
Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 8:10 am Posts: 1143 Location: Beyond the realms of death...
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Well, I don't hate Emboar only 'cos of its typing. I hate its design, its species (Mega Fire Pig: lol) and the fact that a pig is a fighter. I only like its movepool (that Head Smash was a good idea).
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GhostPony750
Pokemon Master
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:00 pm Posts: 1161 Location: Montréal
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Hope Fennekin won't be fighting... Oh well, I heard somewhere that the grass type one will be Dark (I hate his design), but I'm not sure if its true. I'm kinda satisfied with Fennekin, because its the first starter I like since 4th Gen... (Gen5 being the worst)
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Galar
Gym Leader
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:04 am Posts: 1320 Location: Sky Tower
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I keep thinking that both Chespin (due to it's browness) and Froakie (due to being a toad/frog) will be part Ground type. I guess a second alternative for the two would be Normal (lolwat) or Dark for Chespin and Ice or Fighting for Froakie. As first stages, though, I'd assume they'll all be pure types.
As for Fennekin, I wouldn't mind its final form being Fire/Fighting (because I love both Blaziken AND Emboar), but I would certainly welcome an unusual typing such as Fire/Electric (I can sort of picture it evolving into a very fast thing). There's also this small thought in my head that says Fennekin's final evo will be a Fire/Ground type, due to Fennec Foxes inhabiting deserts.
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Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:09 pm |
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vaporterra
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Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:42 pm Posts: 443 Location: North America
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@Frost I was going off of my previous experiences in dealing with Camerupt, although mainly what came to mind was Flannery's Camerupt and let's face it at that point in the game despite Camerupt's subpar stats it's going to give most pokemon not named Marshtomp trouble. I understand what you and whoever else brought up Camerupt were saying.
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Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:00 pm |
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vaporterra
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Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:42 pm Posts: 443 Location: North America
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and I don't understand all the hate about Generation V starters. I understand Serperior and Samurott have their disadvantages and a 3rd Fire/Fighting final evo in a row is a bit repetitive but they weren't the worst Gen V had to offer and in certain ways they outclassed a few previous starters.
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Haunted Water
Pokemon Master
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:01 pm Posts: 2284 Location: In your house, nunchuking all of your shit.
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vaporterra wrote: and I don't understand all the hate about Generation V starters. I understand Serperior and Samurott have their disadvantages and a 3rd Fire/Fighting final evo in a row is a bit repetitive but they weren't the worst Gen V had to offer and in certain ways they outclassed a few previous starters. Believe it or not, Samurott can be used effctively. Train it very fast, teach it ice beam and givd it an expert belt, and grass types aren't a problem anymore. Build a team around it's weaknesses, and basically troll anyone who tries to get a type advantage. Plus, Samurott's an official Master. Accept it. That said, I would like to see a starter set with dual typings again, seeing how it was 10 years ago the first time there was a dual typed starter, and about 4 years ago where all of the starters ended up being dual typed. But I don't want Fennec to be Fire/Psychic, because I will absolutely hate it.
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ChillBill
Pokemon Master
Joined: Tue May 24, 2011 8:10 am Posts: 1143 Location: Beyond the realms of death...
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I used Samurott in White. It's not bad. But what you say about Ice Beam isn't credible for the main story, since Ice Beam is obtained pretty late. However, you can still make it remember Megahorn. Edit: The starters' types were just revealed. All of them are mono-type. Their evos might, of course, obtain other types.
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