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Starters' Types: pure Grass, Fire/Fighting, pure Water.
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Wai
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:15 am Posts: 257 Location: Australia
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I like the idea of new type combinations, but a Grass/Dragon Pokemon would really hate Ice attacks...
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:06 am |
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Max_LKC
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:54 am Posts: 81 Location: Malaysia
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Wai wrote: I like the idea of new type combinations, but a Grass/Dragon Pokemon would really hate Ice attacks... Dragon/flying and Dragon/ground hates ice attacks too but all of them except made it to OU and Ubers as long as it has enough speed power(or bulk if it's a supporter) and a good enough move pool it would be a fine poke.
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:29 am |
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GofD
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:38 pm Posts: 1422 Location: Somewhere in this general area.
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A grass dragon would be a good idea, just to increase the number of non-psuedo legendary draons/legendary dragons.
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:54 am |
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robbydebry
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:59 am Posts: 113 Location: I cannot disclose this information as it might endanger our units in the feild
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dragons should only be reserved for ubers and super legendaries, I mean dragons in mythology are massive creatures of terror, not little things to contend with pathetic weaker pokemon, dragons should be nearly invinable, thats why they are rare and you don't run into dratini's or gibles early on and thats why they won't make a grass dragon starter, plus it nulls out the first triangle because fire isn't very effective against dragon, so the grass type would immideatly become the best starter! (pardon my spelling)
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:30 pm |
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Anamator
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Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:29 pm Posts: 289 Location: i'm not tellng where i live, Stalker....
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that's true. i did'nt think about that, but also, there is no weakness to fire, it isnt a resistance either, so i guess it's ok.... right?
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:36 pm |
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robbydebry
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:59 am Posts: 113 Location: I cannot disclose this information as it might endanger our units in the feild
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isn't fire a resistance? oh then I guess it would be okay, but a dragon type should be something you have to look for closer to the end of the game, not the first pokemon you obtain.
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:45 pm |
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GofD
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:38 pm Posts: 1422 Location: Somewhere in this general area.
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robbydebry wrote: isn't fire a resistance? oh then I guess it would be okay, but a dragon type should be something you have to look for closer to the end of the game, not the first pokemon you obtain. True, but lets face it tjastuas evo has a dragon elegance to it. It has the look of intellegence to it, and the look that if you get it mad- IT GETS MAD!
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:12 am |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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Okay but Infernape can beat Empoleon with it's Fighting Type & still do normal damage with it's Fire Type attacks so so what if Grass/Dragon can take Fire attacks without it being a weakness to it & besides, it's not like the Grass or Dragon Type is super effective against either the Fire or Fighting Type anyway so it's fine imo...
I really really hope that they make Tsutaaja's final Evolution Grass/Dragon cause it would be a good secondary type for it without killing too many of it's other weaknesses...It would still have Poison, Flying, Dragon itself & Ice to both of it's types, not bad imo, even if it is resistant to Ground cause of it's Grass Type & Electric, Water & Grass for both types...& that's it really...
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:36 am |
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robbydebry
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:59 am Posts: 113 Location: I cannot disclose this information as it might endanger our units in the feild
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I wouldn't mind if it were dragon, im just saying if it were dragon/grass who wouldn't pick it? it would just be too good to be true
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:50 pm |
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Anamator
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it's kind of like empoleon. the seel in it was a good idea, but it made evryone want it. so i guess tussuja's evo is problably like Gen V's Empoleon.
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:12 pm |
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rex09
Pokemon Master
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:43 pm Posts: 1312
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robbydebry wrote: I wouldn't mind if it were dragon, im just saying if it were dragon/grass who wouldn't pick it? it would just be too good to be true *raises hand* sure, it'd be a good typing, but really only competitive battlers would choose it solely based off of that. i've always picked my starters based off of the design of the final evo, and smugleaf's final evo design isn't quite my taste. so that's really quite an opinionated way to look at it....
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:40 pm |
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Anamator
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... ok. i' have never competed though.
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:42 pm |
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robbydebry
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:59 am Posts: 113 Location: I cannot disclose this information as it might endanger our units in the feild
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hmm, this is true... touche, I've never kept a starter in my final team other than empoleon (whom I still use btw)
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:56 pm |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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robbydebry wrote: I wouldn't mind if it were dragon, im just saying if it were dragon/grass who wouldn't pick it? it would just be too good to be true I know that, it's just that a starter wouldn't make the best Dragon so maybe not "everybody"...still I see your point... 1 can only wait as we all find this out at some point on Saturday or Sunday...
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:19 pm |
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DarkTrainer13
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:42 am Posts: 587 Location: Lurking around..
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You know, i started to think that Tsutaaja's evolution line will be like Charizard's, because the Charmander and Charmeleon's type were pure Fire, but Charizard was Fire/Flying. Then if Tsutaaja's final evolution is not Grass/Dragon, it should be Grass/Flying, just like Charizard.
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:53 pm |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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DarkTrainer13 wrote: You know, i started to think that Tsutaaja's evolution line will be like Charizard's, because the Charmander and Charmeleon's type were pure Fire, but Charizard was Fire/Flying. Then if Tsutaaja's final evolution is not Grass/Dragon, it should be Grass/Flying, just like Charizard. I actually wouldn't mind that if they did it right but I don't see them doing Tsutaaja's final evolution justice in the case that they add that type combo to it...again though, if they were to do it right then I can deal with this very well...
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:53 am |
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GofD
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:38 pm Posts: 1422 Location: Somewhere in this general area.
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As someone who isnt a competive battler ( cause my router wont let me connect DS to DS), I choose my starter based on what it's final evo typing is and how it looks. Every game Ive chosen the fire starter because A) Fire one of y many favorite typings B) To me, the final fire evo's have a big mean and nasty feel to them. For this Gen, im leaning away from the fire type. This for a few reasons A) Fire/fighting? AGAIN!? If this is supposed to be a "new start", how about making the starters have typesets that haven't been done or that haven't been done for a few gens. B) I cant stop seeing rhyperoir and magmortor in the fire final evo. Those two have ruined the image of the fire type.
Wow, I hope I dont do another rant like this. 2 DAYS!!!
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:07 am |
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DarkTrainer13
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:42 am Posts: 587 Location: Lurking around..
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Hey, you choose the starter just like me. And the reason why i won't choose the Fire starter this time exactly like yours. But i don't know why Magmortar and Rhyperior ruined the image of Fire types.
P.S. Rhyperior wasn't even Fire type, it's Rock/Ground.
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:31 am |
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GofD
Pokemon Master
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Opps, I meant to say rhyperior and magmortar ruined the image of THIS fire type. My reason, it looks like what the offspring of rhyperior and magmortor would be. If gamefreak hadn't have made ryhperior and magmortor, I may have been able to overlook the fire/fighting typeset.
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:44 am |
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DarkTrainer13
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:42 am Posts: 587 Location: Lurking around..
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Tch, the types of the starters final evolution's already been revealed as Pure Grass, Fire/Fighting, and Pure Water. Kinda too bad with the typing, but probably not with the looks. Oh well, our guessing in the Grass final evolution are wrong.
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:56 am |
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Krisp
Lite Four
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 6:21 pm Posts: 3471
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I knew for sure the grass starter wasn't going to be part dragon and I don't know where you guys got that idea.
He looks NOTHING like a dragon type, and even Sceptile and Charizard who actually LOOK like dragons weren't. Why would they make one of the starters part dragon?
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:06 am |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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Oh well...I'm still picking the Grass Type starter just cause it just looks that much better then the other 2...I'm curious about their stats though but aside from that, I am pretty much sold on the Grass Type Starter through & through...
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:42 am |
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GofD
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:38 pm Posts: 1422 Location: Somewhere in this general area.
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Why couldn't they make pokabu pure fire? I cant say im not dissapointed that both water and grass didnt get a second typing, but hey at least it's not grass/poison. I still don't know who im gonna pick when I get the game. It's a tough pick this time around.
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:47 pm |
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Nakuzami
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:16 am Posts: 59 Location: Isshu
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*sniffle, sob* No, not pure grass! *sobs some more* Well, I am a little disappointed, but i'll live...Still definately picking Tsutaaja!!
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:00 pm |
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ilmrik
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:06 am Posts: 32 Location: the land they call Belgium
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blegh , I hate single typing's on starters. I really like having 2 STAB moves the grass/dragon would have been way cooler, a water/ice would have been much preferred too this is the first version where I'd prefer not to have to start with a starter
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:18 pm |
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