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fifaking
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:55 am Posts: 230 Location: South Park
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i hope they make a new dragon like or for Black and White because i love dragon types
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Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:36 am |
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DarkTrainer
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:58 pm Posts: 101
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Leave it to you to make this topic
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Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:27 am |
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Steel_Eel
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:53 am Posts: 442 Location: Space, the Final Fronteir
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Do you really think that we need more Dragons? The types is already overpowered. In the last two generations, 2 of the dragons have been granted Uber status (Garchomp and Salamance). Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:31 am |
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Magus
Pokemon Master
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:12 pm Posts: 1400 Location: Aurora, CO
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We'll be getting new dragons, but I don't want to see a lot, and not another pseudo-legendary like the already mentioned Garchomp and Salamence. The main problem with the type is that it's overplayed, in Gen III we got a lot of new dragons Vibrava, Flygon, Altaria, the Salamence family, the Lati duo and Rayquaza. That's nine, while in the first two generations we only had 4. Then Gen IV added Garchomp's family, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina, six more. Meaning in the last two generations we got fifteen dragons, that's a lot for a type that supposed to be "rare".
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Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:35 pm |
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Nosepass
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:32 pm Posts: 78 Location: Not in Singapore.
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If you mean Garchomp/Salamence/Dragonite-like pseudo-legendaries, I don't want another. I'm sorry, but they make up more than half of the current pseudo-legendaries. That's really too many. I agree with Dragon being a rare type, but all of the non-legendaries are overpowered. If you mean Bidoof-type Dragons, then I also disagree. Dragons are supposed to be rare and powerful; not overpowered and commonplace.
I agree with dragons that are somewhat powerful among the final-stage Pokémon of Isshu. I agree with dragons that supply more type combinations. But another Salamence or Garchomp would be ridiculous.
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Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:28 pm |
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Slim Shady
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:49 am Posts: 110 Location: Die of AIDS for your first clue
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Sorry to get dirt in your skirts, but Kibagon's final evo is the new pseudo-legendary right?
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:44 am |
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Ryanh181
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:50 am Posts: 889 Location: Nova Scotia. Yeah, It exists.
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Nobody knows that yet. We are just assuming.
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:51 am |
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DarkTrainer13
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:42 am Posts: 587 Location: Lurking around..
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Well, i'll prefer that they make a total defensive Dragon-type pokemon, since in resist a lot of common types. But if they make another pseudo-legendary Dragon-type pokemon, i'll pass.
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:11 am |
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Azure
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:29 pm Posts: 286 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
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I would be rather unpleasent to see another psuedo-legendary Dragon. They should give another type its chance to shine. I really do not like the ridiculously overpowered dragons mainly for this reason, there is a retardedly large abundance of 11 year old fantards which are like "ZOMG SALAMENCE R Z KOOL3ST!!1!!11!!!!" it gets quite annoying. I try to have a nice, respectable OU match with someone only to be disappointed to see a Salamence. THANKFULLY Salamence has been banished to the Smogon's Ubers Tier, a glorious day. I have quite a bit of hatred toward Garchomp for being Flygon's replacement. I guess Flygon wasn't bad *** enough.
Fantards are going to flock to the next pseudo-legendary Dragon Pokemon like they did to the previous. It may seem hypocritical for me to say since my username is "Blaziken_is_kool" but I can assure you I am not a fantard. I do not like Blaziken because it is OMG KOOL, I like it because I think Torchic is cute and I have nice childhood memories with chickens.
People that actually use a strategy with these uncannily overpowered brutes have my respect, because unlike some others, they don't have 4 ridiculous offensive moves that don't correspond with the rest of their team.
More Dragons types would be welcomed by me with open arms, more overpowerd Dragon-type brutes will be shunned by me.
Sorry for the long rant. Congragulations if you actually read through all that.
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:30 am |
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Steel_Eel
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:53 am Posts: 442 Location: Space, the Final Fronteir
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Again, I have to stress that most Psuedo legendaries are OU or Uber. The only pourpous a Garchomp has served me was back in Platinum when I put one on my E4 team. I didn't even use it. While I am a fan of dragons, like Kingdra and Dragonite, The new ones are terrible. And the next time I face a Salamance in battle, I will cancel the battle because I don't battle Ubers!
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:46 am |
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GofD
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:38 pm Posts: 1422 Location: Somewhere in this general area.
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Again I state: I like dragon types and I understand your reasoning, but please remember that the dragons type are NOT invincible, using a strong Ice type against them will and can shut them down. OF course I havent battled anyone via WIFI( DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON WIFI......) so I cant share you pain/anguish yada,yada,yada. The only dragon I REALLY use is raquaza for the following reasons:
-Its LVL 100
-Its the only LVL 100 I have right now that nows fly.
The other dragons i dont really us that much.....
As for new dragon types (again ive already stated this) BRING EM ON. I just hope that thye give dragons to types that dont have any (bug,poison,fighting.......)
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:45 am |
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fifaking
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:55 am Posts: 230 Location: South Park
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if you have more dragons you can over power everyone so i want more
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:56 pm |
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Wailord_2
Ace Trainer
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:32 pm Posts: 401
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fifaking wrote: if you have more dragons you can over power everyone so i want more
In theory yes but but not really if your using them for competitive battling very few good dragons aren't uber
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:37 pm |
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Magikarps_Beast
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:05 pm Posts: 581 Location: The Land of Ooo
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I agree, more dragon types that aren't pseudo-legendaries. its annoying. Like Flygon and Altaria. Altaria and swablu were pretty rare, and Flygon was interesting, especially its evolution chain. We need more kind of rare (like those ones you can find in a few areas, but are like 5% chance of seeing) around in Isshu. It is a new region. I hope it does.
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:59 pm |
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Mektar
Art Commentator
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 2:02 pm Posts: 1020 Location: Tealand
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I agree with M_B. The new Pseudo-Legendary should be a Steel/Ice type. Something like that could own Salamence and Garchomp so easialy with STAB Ice Shard, that they would drop back down to OU!
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:04 pm |
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Azure
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:29 pm Posts: 286 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
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It seems a lot of people agree less overpowered Dragon Pokemon would be nice. I shouldn't say I only dislike overpowered Dragons, I dislike most ridiculously Pokemon. Overpowered Pokemon remind me of big school-yard bullies, or greedy CEOs.
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:36 pm |
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ArcaNineTales
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:16 pm Posts: 33
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I like dragon pokemon and don't think that people should "shun" them or "scoff" at their creation because they are too powerful. Instead of getting worked up over a loss because someone used a dragon and you didn't, grow some balls and fight fire with fire.
That said, Nintendo should be more worried about the horribly unbalanced battle types than the base statistics of the pokemon.. Seriously... There is no need for Fire, Water, Grass AND electric to all be weak against dragon. (Steel also needs to be looked at, fyi.)
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:08 pm |
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rex09
Pokemon Master
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:43 pm Posts: 1312
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ArcaNineTales wrote: I like dragon pokemon and don't think that people should "shun" them or "scoff" at their creation because they are too powerful. Instead of getting worked up over a loss because someone used a dragon and you didn't, grow some balls and fight fire with fire.
most of them are banned in competitive battling because they're too powerful, and since this site caters to a lot of competitive battlers, that's the kind of response you'll see. i like dragon pokemon as well, but i still think they're overdone as pseudo-legendaries; and nobody is "shunning" or "scoffing" at their creation. all i see are some valid points as to why dragons shouldn't be pseudo-legends for the next couple of gens. there's little need to attack everyone for putting forth their opinion. and the types thing... well, what can you do.
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:36 pm |
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TheCharizardMaster
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:32 am Posts: 23 Location: Kanto
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I loved how there were so little dragon types but then there was Hoenn. Hoenn was overflowed with dragons and so was Sinnoh. Now the Isshu region will probably have a bzillion dragon type legendaries. It already has two legendaries and one pseudo confirmed. Do the creators want to make all legendary pokemon dragon? There was not one legendary dragon before Hoenn. As an original Pokemon fan, I am disapointed.
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:44 pm |
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ArcaNineTales
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:16 pm Posts: 33
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Rex, people have no reason to complain if the dragons are banned in competitive battling, which you insist many here are involved in. Where the dragons are allowed, I was simply saying people might as well take advantage of their power rather than avoiding them and using such as an excuse for losing.
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:52 pm |
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rex09
Pokemon Master
Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:43 pm Posts: 1312
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Calm down a little, please. And nobody here's about losing to them, either. i think most people don't want to use them simply because of all the little 10-year olds that run around with *coughsixshinysalamencescough* a crapload of dragon-types, and have to put up with it. i agree with you in that people shouldn't use them as an excuse for having lost a match; but there's a logic behind every reason.
P.S. I know that many people here battle in a competitive style. Or at minimum, are very serious about it. Not insist.
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:47 pm |
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DarkTrainer
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:58 pm Posts: 101
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Yeah i feel like most dragons are tailored to make little ten year olds like a certain soccer king i know to scream in joy and cry over how cool they are
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:11 pm |
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Abbey
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 9:40 am Posts: 6 Location: Mount Olive, North Carolina
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fifaking wrote: if you have more dragons you can over power everyone so i want more
Until someone whips out an ice or dragon type... But if you were to face off against a dragon type and you only had dragon types, I guess it would be an even fight?
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Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:38 pm |
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InstantBacon
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:55 pm Posts: 192
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DarkTrainer wrote: Yeah i feel like most dragons are tailored to make little ten year olds like a certain soccer king i know to scream in joy and cry over how cool they are
Have you tried that against Lance? Then you'll know its not entirely even...
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Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:30 am |
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fifaking
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:55 am Posts: 230 Location: South Park
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DarkTrainer wrote: Yeah i feel like most dragons are tailored to make little ten year olds like a certain soccer king i know to scream in joy and cry over how cool they are
jeez asshole im not a stupid 10 year old and i happen to think dragon pokes are the best u got a problem with that
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