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Klash4
Bug Catcher
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:57 pm Posts: 2
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By utilizing ditto you too can make a ditto learn virtually anything!
Here's how it works:
Rage must be one of the moves that Transform's target has.
Ditto MUST use Rage after Transforming.
Then just end the battle. Ditto will have the moveset of whatever it just transformed into; however, this does not change Ditto's type.
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Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:01 pm |
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Klash4
Bug Catcher
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:57 pm Posts: 2
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I found this out during the bug catching contest on a beedrill. Verdict is still out on whether I can relearn Transform.
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Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:10 pm |
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/vXv\
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:45 pm Posts: 829 Location: In a Secret Hideout
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I read up on this on your gamespot post and tried it in platinum and It Works!
It can relearn transform @ the move tutor.
Awsome now you can get any egg moves combo with all pokemon not just one that breed with smeargle!
No, This is not an aprils fools joke
Now I'm going to try and get a super mew
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Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:51 am |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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This is a fantastic finding Klash4...thank you for this...
Though it's still kind of limited due to the fact not everything learns Rage...meh...
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:20 pm |
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Krisp
Lite Four
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 6:21 pm Posts: 3471
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I was going to close the thread on grounds of April Fools day is over, but I decided to test this glitch and it does indeed work.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4518/p00158.jpg
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Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:39 am |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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Nice Ditto there Krisp & thanks for confirmation...
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Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:19 pm |
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MasonTheChef
Pokemon Master
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:02 am Posts: 1575 Location: Michigan
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This calls to make an exploding ditto :lol:
Did all those moves come PP maxed? Or was that you?
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:10 am |
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Weavile Lord
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 12:37 pm Posts: 54
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My intrest is sparked on this one. Personally, I'm interested in why this occurs...
Any theories?
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:59 pm |
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GollyGreg
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:55 am Posts: 131 Location: Tall grass
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My brother and I did this a while back. xD
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Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:22 pm |
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KingErick
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:51 pm Posts: 617 Location: hiding in my hoenn secret base
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does this work with link room battles?
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:34 am |
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Krisp
Lite Four
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 6:21 pm Posts: 3471
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MasterChef wrote: This calls to make an exploding ditto :lol:
Did all those moves come PP maxed? Or was that you?
Wow, good eye, I didn't even notice they were PP maxed. No, I didn't do that.
if anyone wants to see for themselves the glitch: Catch a Ditto and make sure it's a high level (like over 40) so it can defeat Onix. Fly to Cianwood City and head for the Safari Zone. In the Cliff Cave get into random battles until Onix appears (ignore Steelix, he'll stomp on Ditto's face) and transform into Onix. Use Rage at least once, then defeat it. After the battle your Ditto will know Rock Tomb, Screech, Rage, and Rock Throw.
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:00 pm |
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taitorin
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:03 pm Posts: 12 Location: Austin, TX
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Lawence Codye wrote: This is a fantastic finding Klash4...thank you for this...
Though it's still kind of limited due to the fact not everything learns Rage...meh...
but you could teach a smeargle rage and 3 other moves that you would like ditto to have, then your all set, youd just have to defeat it in a double battle or something
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:27 pm |
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Weavile Lord
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 12:37 pm Posts: 54
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The PP max may be a side effect... I am yet to figure out how anyone teaches a smeargle the moves they want...
I want one with belly drum, and baton pass.
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:51 pm |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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taitorin wrote: Lawence Codye wrote: This is a fantastic finding Klash4...thank you for this...
Though it's still kind of limited due to the fact not everything learns Rage...meh...
but you could teach a smeargle rage and 3 other moves that you would like ditto to have, then your all set, youd just have to defeat it in a double battle or something
Well I don't think it works in Wi-Fi Battles...does it?...if not then your statement is void my good sir...
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Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:22 pm |
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/vXv\
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:45 pm Posts: 829 Location: In a Secret Hideout
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News Flash!
Its really a rage/transform Glitch Any pokemon that uses transform then uses rage will keep the moveset
To test this I got skitty to transform via assist (and a whole team of ditto) verse a bagon which knew rage and skitty now has bagons move set.
also if your pulling this glitch off with ditto or mew you can just target your own smeargle in a double battle!
Moves that can copy transform
Assist
Metronome (Its an extremely longshot but possible)
Fully evolved Pokemon that could pull off this glitch (except those that could do it via metronome)
Ditto - T
Mew - T
Delcatty - A
Infernape - A
Purugly - A
Hypno - A
Furret - A
Persian - A
Spinda - A
Weavile - A
Note: This Glitch seems to work only in platinum and HGSS
Edit: figured out that copycat won't work
Last edited by /vXv\ on Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:18 pm |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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Ignore me as I say this but "yea, Minun can do this..."
& now listen again as I say, yeah, I don't have the 2 PokeWalkers or HeartGold so...this is impossible for me to want to use since I don't like the movepool of any pokemon that actually learns rage in battle...this sucks bad for me...meh, oh well...
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Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:38 pm |
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Krisp
Lite Four
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 6:21 pm Posts: 3471
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Have you tested the Pokewalker thing? I mean, battling a Smeargle with Rage and some other moves? I have two DS's and two Pokewalkers, so I could test it if it's worth my time.
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Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:05 am |
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MasonTheChef
Pokemon Master
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:02 am Posts: 1575 Location: Michigan
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Can't you just fight wild dittos east of Fuchsia city? Have them transform into your Smeargle and bring your own Ditto in and become your own Smeagle. (assuming transform works on tranformed pokes.)
I want to know if ditto can then use it's new moves to pass on as egg moves. Belly drum+Aqua Jet Azumarril would be nice, though I highly doubt anything from this glitch would be PvP legal.
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Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:33 pm |
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Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:45 pm Posts: 829 Location: In a Secret Hideout
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Actually I just tested it and it didn't work @ the trainer house cause you don't get experience, also the verse ditto thing doesn't work you can't transform into a transformed pokemon, but that only means you don't have access to every move and the perfect move set, however there are still a great deal of moves that a pokemon may not normally have access to. I composed a list of wild pokemon that know rage and copy able movesets. This also means copycat won't work, but assist still does, which is neat for infernape and weavile.
As far as breeding goes it should work as long as ditto is functioning as the father pokemon.
Steelix/Onix lvl 14-29 Bind, Screech, Rock throw, Rage, Rock tomb, Sand storm, Slam
Bagon/Shelgon/Salamence lvl 1-19 Rage, Bite, Headbutt, Leer
Beedrill lvl 19-30 Fury attack, Focus energy, Twin Needle, Rage, Pursuit, Toxic Spikes, Pin Missile
Carvanah/Sharpedo lvl 6-17 Leer, Feint, Bite, Rage, Focus energy, Scary Face, Ice Fang
Totodile/Croconaw/Feraligatr lvl 8-21 leer, scratch, water gun, rage, bite, scary face, Ice fang
Cubone/Marowak lvl 23-36 leer, focus energy, bonerang, rage, False swipe, thrash, Fling
Dodou/Dodrio lvl 10-27 growl, peck, quick attack, rage, fury attack, pursuit, Uproar
dunsparce lvl 1-16 rage, Defence curl, yawn, glare
Snubull/granbull lvl 31+/35+ Lick, Headbutt, Roar, rage, take down, payback, crunch
Kangaskhan lvl 22-36 tail whip, bite, mega punch rage, Dizzy punch, Crunch, endure
Primape lvl 28-52 sesmic toss, screech, assurance, rage, swagger, cross chop, thrash
Tauros lvl 5-19 tackle, tail whip, rage, horn attack, scary face, pursuit
The high lighted moves are one you'll encounter in the wild, If you have an action replay and have the pokemod you can adjust the level at which wild pokemon appear allowing you get some of the other moves.
Warning remember that using this glitch remove your current moveset which means egg moves would be lost.
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Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:54 pm |
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Weavile Lord
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 12:37 pm Posts: 54
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Double battling with a rage smeargle and a ditto still works.
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Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:04 pm |
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Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:45 pm Posts: 829 Location: In a Secret Hideout
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Some of the note worth moves you can copy
Bonerang/Thrash
Glare/Yawn
Ice Fang/Bite
Cross chop/Thrash
Dizzy punch/Mega punch/Crunch
quick attack/fury attack
Twin needle/Fury attack/Toxic spikes/ Pinmissle
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Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:27 pm |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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/vXv\ wrote: As far as breeding goes it should work as long as ditto is functioning as the father pokemon.
Warning remember that using this glitch remove your current moveset which means egg moves would be lost.
umm...so Ditto doesn't always function as the mother...anywho, what does the remove current moveset bit mean...I'm probably missing something but still?...
Weavile Lord wrote: Double battling with a rage smeargle and a ditto still works.
& what do you mean double battles...does this glitch even work in PvP battles?...
_________________3DS Friend Code = 4441 - 9336 - 3527 (Be aware that I must also add you so in order to know you added it, just maybe...) Eevee Breeding Project leftovers are Available here + rest of my trading wants & haves... Lawence Codye's Trading Thread (Gen 6 / X & Y)"The Nine Tails of Subconscious - Lawence Codye"
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Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:07 pm |
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taitorin
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:03 pm Posts: 12 Location: Austin, TX
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Lawence Codye wrote: /vXv\ wrote: As far as breeding goes it should work as long as ditto is functioning as the father pokemon.
Warning remember that using this glitch remove your current moveset which means egg moves would be lost.
umm...so Ditto doesn't always function as the mother...anywho, what does the remove current moveset bit mean...I'm probably missing something but still?...
Weavile Lord wrote: Double battling with a rage smeargle and a ditto still works.
& what do you mean double battles...does this glitch even work in PvP battles?...
What i meant on my first post about ditto and smeargle was about double battles with ingame trainers (like twins, or young couples) then have your ditto tranform into smeargle and use rage to defeat your own smeargle, then take out whatever is left of the nub trainers, i think weavile lord also was thinking something along the lines of this method, but im not psychic so...
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Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:02 pm |
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Lawence Codye
Psypoke Maniac
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm Posts: 2512 Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
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taitorin wrote: What i meant on my first post about ditto and smeargle was about double battles with ingame trainers (like twins, or young couples) then have your ditto tranform into smeargle and use rage to defeat your own smeargle, then take out whatever is left of the nub trainers, i think weavile lord also was thinking something along the lines of this method, but im not psychic so...
Oh...well now that makes logical sense in that okay, I can get that much done...the possibilities...
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