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sacred ash
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 12:24 pm Posts: 57 Location: Pakistan
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Legendary dogs or birds?
Which would be better in my team cuz Im trying to get 100 straight wins in the Battle Tower in Ruby.
Is Moltres a better choice than Entei or is Suicune better than Articuno?
help me out guys.
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Wed May 14, 2008 11:18 pm |
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RazorPOkeKiLlERz
Bug Catcher
Joined: Tue May 13, 2008 5:36 pm Posts: 17
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Well Articuno also counts as flying, so he can get hurt with moves that are very effective to flying... It all depends on what pokemon your fighting. Suicune will be better for some fights, and Articuno will be better for others... same with and
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Thu May 15, 2008 12:27 pm |
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DNA
Trivia Champion
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:37 pm Posts: 3170 Location: clegavel
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Well, in cases dogs are better than birds. The ones truly combat-worthy are Suicune, Zapdos, and possibly Articuno or Raikou, to a lesser degree. Suicune has multiple roles, all of which it does incredibly at - it's almost like a Snorlax. Moltres and Entei are wastes of your time.
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Thu May 15, 2008 3:44 pm |
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zapdosfan
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Wed May 07, 2008 12:24 pm Posts: 27
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articuno beats suicune
mind reader sheer cold combo
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Fri May 16, 2008 11:58 am |
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DNA
Trivia Champion
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:37 pm Posts: 3170 Location: clegavel
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zapdosfan wrote: articuno beats suicune
mind reader sheer cold combo
It's still possible that Articuno would be dead by then.
Some people disdain that cheap combo, but as for myself I have no preference.
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Fri May 16, 2008 3:38 pm |
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sacred ash
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 12:24 pm Posts: 57 Location: Pakistan
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ok but how can moltres or entei be weak if ithey only have water as a weakness?
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Sat May 17, 2008 7:10 am |
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DNA
Trivia Champion
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:37 pm Posts: 3170 Location: clegavel
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sacred ash wrote: ok but how can moltres or entei be weak if ithey only have water as a weakness?
Fire Pokemon are weak to Water, Ground, and Rock. That's 3 weaknesses, and in the case of Moltres, Rock is a 2x weakness, so using AncientPower/Rock Slide against it is virtually Moltres's death sentence. (Ground, however, does not affect Moltres.)
Moltres is the only one with a double weakness in the whole set, and because his stats are also somewhat lackluster, he's not well worth it.
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Sat May 17, 2008 1:02 pm |
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Sion9
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:46 pm Posts: 1241
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sacred ash wrote: ok but how can moltres or entei be weak if ithey only have water as a weakness?
Because stats, learnsets, and the metagame are also important considerations.
For more information, look on the Psydex for the individual pokemon data or the main site for battle guides.
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Mon May 19, 2008 8:12 am |
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Gamingproboy12
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:02 pm Posts: 113 Location: Twinleaf town, Sinnoh
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just use your starter the dog you got and all 3 birds. that should do it.
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Mon May 19, 2008 2:55 pm |
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Sion9
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:46 pm Posts: 1241
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Gamingproboy12 wrote: just use your starter the dog you got and all 3 birds. that should do it.
To beat Ruby BT?
First, you only use 3 pokemon. Second, the team you chose not only must be well rounded enough to take on the variety of pokemon you find in the higher levels of Ruby BT, it also must be able to overcome luck hax in some way - comps using OHKO or evasion boosts. (I mean well rounded not in types, but in battle roles. A physical sweeper, a special sweeper, and a tank is usually a decent combo, but choose the best pokemon you can get.)
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Wed May 21, 2008 8:10 am |
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Rhydon
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:34 pm Posts: 149 Location: In Umbreons Heart
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Dogs cause all birds are x4 week to rock
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Wed May 21, 2008 11:34 pm |
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DNA
Trivia Champion
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:37 pm Posts: 3170 Location: clegavel
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Rhydon wrote: Dogs cause all birds are x4 week to rock
What the HECK are you talking about? Only Moltres is 4x weak to anything.
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Thu May 22, 2008 2:35 pm |
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Sion9
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:46 pm Posts: 1241
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DNA wrote: Rhydon wrote: Dogs cause all birds are x4 week to rock
What the HECK are you talking about? Only Moltres is 4x weak to anything.
Actually...Articuno is 4x weak to Rock as well.
Still,
Sion9 wrote: stats, learnsets, and the metagame are also important considerations.
For example, Salamence/Dragonite are OU despite 4x weak to Ice; Tyranitar despite 4x weak to Fighting. Weaknesses alone shouldn't prevent you from using a pokemon.
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Fri May 23, 2008 7:25 am |
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