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Stong Stand-Alone Pok'emon
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SuicuneRider
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 12:06 am Posts: 9 Location: on the back of suicune
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What pokemon do you think are capable of withstanding many enemies or should I say, a pokemon with good stats, good movepool, good over-all
I know there are only a few of them.
One I know is Kingdra
Good stats
Good Movepool
Good Type combi
! Can stand alone !
You know those pokemon that are too hard to beat...
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Sat May 06, 2006 6:33 am |
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daveshan
Pokemon Master
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:23 pm Posts: 1959 Location: Va
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Kingdra isn't good, its stats are horrible.
Metagross
Snorlax
Umbreon
Every Uber
Wobbuffet
Suicune
every reversaler (pokemon that uses reversal/flail and a salac berry)
Tyranitar
Salamence
The list goes on and on. It really doesn't matter what pokemon you have, it matters how you use it. Except for kingdra, it sucks.
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Sat May 06, 2006 6:43 am |
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tessa7338
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:47 pm Posts: 603 Location: Red Sands
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One strong standalone which I use is my precious Amazora.
@ Lefties
Naive | Own Tempo
Surf
Psychic
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball
Covers a lot of types, and in case of no super-effectives just Surf thier @$$es off. Works great for everything, including Battle Palace. The only weakness of this is a Blissey with a good Grass / Electric / Dark attack. But she can thrash almost anything else that stands in her way. Go Amzy!
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Sat May 06, 2006 6:57 am |
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Cal
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:52 am Posts: 558 Location: The United Kingdom.
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You'll want stuff like:
Latios (Good movepool? Then here you go.)
Gardevoir
Suicune (Judging by your name, I think you'll want him)
Metagross
Salamence
Tyranitar
Dragonite
Raikou (Not necesserily, but is very powerful imo.)
Latias
Regice (Slow, but decent movepool)
Heracross
Gengar (Low defences, but is a great SP. sweeper)
Milotic (Restrictive movepool, but survives almost any hit)
Lapras
Blissey
etc, etc, etc.
Try looking at the Max Stats list to see which pokemon have the stats of your liking, and check the Psydex to view their movepools.
Sneaky_Sneasel wrote: Lati@s are uber, Gardy is OHKO-able, Metagross is for cowards, Mence, D-Nite and TTar are OHKO-able, Raikou and Gengar are olol, and Blissey is for cowards.
Some of us use Pokemon because we like them (I use lati@s because they are 2 of my faves), so you can't just jump to conclusion that M-gross is for cowards, it actually is perfectly OHKO-able(STABbed Flamethrower, I repeat, STABbed Flamethrower). And so what if Pokemon are OHKO-able? They can still stand alone, and Salam is my fave P-sweeper, other than herax.
Your comments; They offend people, including me.
Last edited by Cal on Wed May 10, 2006 9:44 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Sat May 06, 2006 10:46 am |
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LethalVirus
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:01 pm Posts: 110 Location: Behind you
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Umbreons the best one :roll:
@Leftovers
1) Double Team
2) Moonlight
3) Faint Attack
4) Psychic
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Sat May 06, 2006 1:25 pm |
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Sneaky Sneasel
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:21 pm Posts: 3128 Location: College
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Cal wrote: You'll want stuff like:
Latios (Good movepool? Then here you go.)
Gardevoir
Suicune (Judging by your name, I think you'll want him)
Metagross
Salamence
Tyranitar
Dragonite
Raikou (Not necesserily, but is very powerful imo.)
Latias
Regice (Slow, but decent movepool)
Heracross
Gengar (Low defences, but is a great SP. sweeper)
Milotic (Restrictive movepool, but survives almost any hit)
Lapras
Blissey
etc, etc, etc.
Try looking at the Max Stats list to see which pokemon have the stats of your liking, and check the Psydex to view their movepools.
Lati@s are uber, Gardy is OHKO-able, Metagross is for cowards, Mence, D-Nite and TTar are OHKO-able, Raikou and Gengar are olol, and Blissey is for cowards.
LethalVirus wrote: Umbreons the best one
@Leftovers
1) Double Team
2) Moonlight
3) Faint Attack
4) Psychic
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Sat May 06, 2006 1:37 pm |
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Gungnir
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:43 am Posts: 29 Location: UK (the Shire of Devon)
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Here's my two pence/cents/pesetas:
doesn't. Die. To anything. Ever. No, not even that.
I've seen one survive a Slaking's Choice Banded Shadow Ball
If the shadowy blob of death isn't for you, go with or easiest Pokes to use ever IMHO.
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Sat May 06, 2006 3:56 pm |
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Krisp
Lite Four
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 6:21 pm Posts: 3471
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Snorlax and Dragonite are my favorites. They can take alot of hits, and they have alot of power. (too lazy to post movesets.)
LethalVirus wrote: {umbreon} @Leftovers
1) Double Team
2) Moonlight
3) Faint Attack
4) Psychic
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I don't know what is worse; that pokemon or moveset.
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Sat May 06, 2006 3:59 pm |
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Saanaito
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:52 am Posts: 330 Location: Saturn!
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<s>Magikarp @ Macho Brace
Splash
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Yeah! This guy rocks!! Or, maybe not.
I'd have to say any kind of sweeper, like these:
- Gardevoir
- Metagross
- Tyranitar
- Salamence
- Dragonite
And the list keeps on going on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, [size=0]and on. [/size]
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Sat May 06, 2006 4:03 pm |
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Lugia34
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:10 pm Posts: 208 Location: In the land of hysterical goths... Toronto, Ontario.
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Hmm... maybe the Regis? The list is huge.
Sneaky Sneasel wrote: Metagross is for cowards
I resent that comment, and I'm sure RUBEN would too if he read it. Just because Metagross is a good pokemon doesn't mean it is for cowards because it kills. It has it's weaknesses (Swampert, Typhlosion, Dugtrio, ect.).
Here's my list:
Regis
Any 00ber
Aggron
Steelix
Metagross
Salamence
Dragonite
Tyranitar
Any Endureversal PKMN
Any Endure-Flail PKMN
Sableye
Shedinja
Umbreon
Starmie
Sableye's there because of no weaknesses and Sheddy's there because of Wonder Guard. Endureversal/Flail for obvious reasons, Metagross/Salamence/T-tar/Dragonite because of their pseudo-uber stats, Aggron and Steelix because of their high defences, the legends are explanatory and Umbreon/Starmie because they can either survive hits or deal them damage.
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Sat May 06, 2006 6:53 pm |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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There are two kinds of Pokemon that can last long. The first are strong sweepers that can take down the foe before the foe can do much damage in return. Salamence, Tyranitar and some other powerful Sweepers would fall in this category. The other, which really last long, taking hits and all, would be the Sponges and Tanks. Blissey has got to be one of the best in this category, with its phenomenal HP and Special Defense. Other possible Pokemon you can try are the Regis, especially Regice, Snorlax, Umbreon, and Shuckle (but only for in-game purposes; Its HP is way too low).
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Sat May 06, 2006 7:50 pm |
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Deathseeker
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:01 pm Posts: 466 Location: Eating Cheesecake, that's all...
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I think that Snorlax is great at this:
@ Leftovers
Rest
Snore
Body Slam
Amnesia
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Sat May 06, 2006 8:26 pm |
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Crunchy
Gym Leader
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:09 pm Posts: 3230 Location: island of giant spiders with shooting lasers
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Snorlax has always been a hard one to take down...
Snorlax@Leftovers-Careful
-rest
-shadowball
-bodyslam
-curse
Good old Snorlax...
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Sat May 06, 2006 8:49 pm |
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RUBEN
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:06 pm Posts: 50 Location: ......?
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sneaky_seasel say this horrible thing: Metagross is for cowards
I hate you sneaky sneasel, how you dare to say that metagross is for cowards? only because of that Metagross(with a good moveset) can kick the butt of sneasel in no time thats no reson of say that metagross is for cowards.
Snorlax is very hard to taken down:
@leftovers, mild(-speed more defense)nature
Amnesia
Curse
Rest
Shadow ball
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Sat May 06, 2006 9:00 pm |
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Crunchy
Gym Leader
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:09 pm Posts: 3230 Location: island of giant spiders with shooting lasers
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I agree with Sneaky_Sneasel...but I can't talk...I use Tyranitar
Tyranitar
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance
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Sat May 06, 2006 9:07 pm |
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DragonPhoenix
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:50 pm Posts: 854 Location: Australia
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What? You are all wrong! I say is the best!
Mine has yet to be defeated!
- Charm
- Water Sport
- Sleep Talk
- Water Gun
Ohhh... Is this thing EVIL or what?
Seriously though, for me, if I could only battle with one poke it would be a CB Aerodactyl. Speed + Sweep. Or a CalmCune. Or CurseLax. Or Groudon.
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Sat May 06, 2006 10:38 pm |
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jedibob5
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon May 08, 2006 4:01 am Posts: 24 Location: At my computer.
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lol, nice spelling of Strong. BTW, with it's Miracle Guard, Shedinja is a strong choice.
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Tue May 09, 2006 3:12 pm |
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Philip
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:06 am Posts: 78
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i think is the strongest pokemon ever, much stronger than those u listed, he is just crazy! STAB + Automatic Rain dance
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Modest, 252 SA, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Surf (hydro pump, water spout)
Ice Beam
Thunder
Calm Mind
This guy is also called "Kyuber"
Ice beam for grass and dragon type, Thunder for water type, calm mind for SA and SD defense for grass and electric atks. Maybe only can beat him. I wonder if can beat him, what do u guys think?
I also wonder who can beat him if he has maximized his SA and SD by CM
Recently edited: i hv just found out that can OHKO with Hyper Beam, so i think that Wobbuffet may be the strongest one
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Wed May 10, 2006 4:30 am |
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goldenquagsire
Art Commentator
Joined: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:39 am Posts: 2467 Location: London, UK
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My best stand-alone Pokemon is my Quagsire. It absorbs Surf, mucks up Fire and Electric types and only gets worried by it's 4x Grass Weakness.
Give it:
Surf
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Haze
And it can take down pretty much anything: Fire, Ground, Rock, Dragon, Flying, Grass, Steel, Electric and Poison! Haze is there to get rid of annoying Double Team/Calm Mind moves. It is very rare for my Emerald Quagsire to faint against one Pokemon.
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Thu May 18, 2006 2:07 pm |
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Centurion Steel
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Wed May 17, 2006 5:25 pm Posts: 33 Location: Blackthorn, Hanging with Midnight Crew
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My Aggron and Skarmory usualy last long time. Dusclops, I've heard, Is pretty good Tank also. But could be annoying to train as a Duskull.
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Thu May 18, 2006 3:14 pm |
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daveshan
Pokemon Master
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:23 pm Posts: 1959 Location: Va
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jedibob5 wrote: lol, nice spelling of Strong. BTW, with it's Miracle Guard, Shedinja is a strong choice. Wonder Gaurd, not Miracle Guard.
Shedinja is 50/50 victory. Either it'll die as soon as it comes out (or the turn after) or it will demolish the opposing team.
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Fri May 19, 2006 6:44 am |
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Cal
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:52 am Posts: 558 Location: The United Kingdom.
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Shedinja: Very bad IMO, even with it's powerful ability, it'll faint very soon anyway.
Hmm... Actually Shuckle isn't that bad; with Toxic, Protect, and Rest, etc. It's a force to be reckoned with.
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Fri May 19, 2006 8:36 am |
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draken
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed May 17, 2006 12:41 pm Posts: 5
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Shuckle has a massive defence in a battle it can last very long even if its up against its weakness and can make a very good annoyer it could use toxic then just use rest when it's hp is low and make it hold chesto berry.
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Fri May 19, 2006 10:16 am |
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pokeseeker
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 5:04 pm Posts: 110 Location: You wouldn't believe me if I told you anyway...
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What about Smeargle?
@ Lefties
-Spore
-Lock-On
-Sheer Cold
-Guillotine
A note for Shuckle. you'll have to EV train his hp or else you won't have enough to survive, but still a very solid choice.
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Tue May 23, 2006 6:12 pm |
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CHJB
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:41 am Posts: 338
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jedibob5 wrote: lol, nice spelling of Strong. BTW, with it's Miracle Guard, Shedinja is a strong choice.
yay shedinja! I like to use him because i use something like confuse ray, flash, double team or some thing like that
a good move set
-shadow ball
-double team
-confuse ray
-toxic (or maybe some kind of stat effect thing like paralyze)
shuckle is good too, yay toxic tanks
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