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Does it prevent self-reduction?

Ex. If I use overheat, will Sp Atk be lowered?

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Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:11 am
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No, it does not prevents selfreduction.

The same thing happens with regice, you can't use superpower without the nasty attack and defence lower, even do you have clear body.

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Aw...that sucks...

So this brings me to my next question.


What would be a good high special attack move for Torkoal? If it lowers Speed or Atk afterwards, I doesn't matter to me.

Or should I just put Flamethrower or Fire Blast on him? He's going to be a Toxi-tank/staller.

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I would use Flamethrower or Heat Wave, which carries 100 base damage, which is more than F-thrower, but only 90% base accuracy. Also, there are those out there that have no problem with Fire Blast, despite its 85% base accuracy (I'm not one of those people . . .).

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Alright. I'll go with Flamethrower or HW. Thx.

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Hold on, if he's gonna be a toxi-tank/staller then why use such a large move? What's standard on a toxi-tank torkoal is something like Fire Spin, Curse, Toxic, and Rest?
I like the idea behind it, And always liked 2-hit killers. :D

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I'm using this for my Tork:

Iron Defense (Could change if I want since his Def is already very high)
Amnesia
Toxic
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He has a (-atk, +sp def) nature.

So I need a good Sp atk move for damaging (preferably fire for STAB, and since I don't have any fire attacks on my team)

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Take advantige of heat wave, double battles will be easy since toarcoal will have a strong self defense move.

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Yoshipal13 wrote:
I'm using this for my Tork:

Iron Defense (Could change if I want since his Def is already very high)
Amnesia
Toxic
???

He has a (-atk, +sp def) nature.

So I need a good Sp atk move for damaging (preferably fire for STAB, and since I don't have any fire attacks on my team)


Hmmm Interesting. I personally think It's great, but since I've gotten into Netbattle I keep thinking of all the standards and what I would see on there. No doubt yours is a strong {torkoal} set though.

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Thanks :)

So I guess Heat Wave will go on there.

But, should I replace Iron Defense with Rest? I mean, his Def is already good.

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Off course your defence is sky-high; but weakness to EQ and rock slide means that this thing isn't such an impresive physical wall, seriusly, most hard physical hitters 2HKO it with EQ.

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Yeah, Iron defense over rest. A strong attack pokemon with earthquake could faint it in two hits, making rest useless.

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