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RussianRanger1
Bug Catcher
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:28 pm Posts: 12
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Who is better in your opinion, Dialga or Palkia?
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:41 am |
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Ghett0
Fails at life
Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:23 pm Posts: 546 Location: Isn't my avatar just so cute! :D
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..Palkia has better base stats and is super effective against Dialga, and Palkia signature move dosen't have to recharge.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:40 am |
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ShadowTyranitar
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun May 06, 2007 5:12 pm Posts: 214 Location: Realgam Tower
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Ghett0 wrote: ..Palkia has better base stats and is super effective against Dialga, and Palkia signature move dosen't have to recharge. Um, no. Water moves are not effective against Dialga, and Dragon moves are neutral.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:42 am |
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Ghett0
Fails at life
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Water Pulse + steel type = super effective.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:44 am |
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thekiller0703
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:19 pm Posts: 693 Location: On the left side of the street... Take THAT Society!
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Just nobody say anything about this.
Let's see how long it takes him to figure it out.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:46 am |
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Groudon King
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:24 pm Posts: 521 Location: Cave of Origins, in the Depths of the Abyss
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Palkia has better moves, one weakness, and can learn Aura Sphere to beat Dialga.
Ghett0 wrote: Water Pulse + steel type = super effective.
No.... Water Pulse + steel type = no effective (neutral) damage
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:08 am |
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Omniscient
Fails at life
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:40 pm Posts: 32 Location: Bronx, NY
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I just like Dialga because his type is actually different. There are way too many water types.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:23 am |
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X-Treme
Bug Catcher
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:51 am Posts: 1
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Ghett0 wrote: ..Palkia has better base stats and is super effective against Dialga, and Palkia signature move dosen't have to recharge.
Actually, they both have the same base stats.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:32 am |
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Mr.Chaos
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 1:37 pm Posts: 151 Location: In a castle fighting zombies
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In my opinion could kick ass in any day of the week
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:34 am |
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Bobsymalone
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:42 pm Posts: 60
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Groudon King wrote: Palkia has better moves, one weakness, and can learn Aura Sphere to beat Dialga.
Ghett0 wrote: Water Pulse + steel type = super effective.
No.... Water Pulse + steel type = no effective (neutral) damage
In fact, because of Dialga's dragon typing, it'd resist water attacks.
On the other hand, Palkia is weak to dragon, whereas Dialga isn't. Palkia can hit Dialga super effectively with Earth Power and Aura Sphere, but neither get STAB.
Palkia just got owned ^
EDIT: Even if steel was weak to water, the dragon typing would neutralize it.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:57 am |
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Alkhazor
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:10 pm Posts: 421 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow.
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Palkia > dialga, palkia is usually a better choice.
However if were talking palkia VS dialga, then it just depends on how they were trained really. Id place my bets on palkia.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:25 pm |
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Sion9
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:46 pm Posts: 1241
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It really depends on your uber team. If it were Palkia vs Dialga, as Alkhazor said, it really depends on training and moves. A Dialga with Roar of Time, its signature move, is going to have a difficult time beating a Palkia with Protect.
EDIT: ok, nvm Protect. Sub then. My point is that it's not such a straight match - changes in moves can affect who will win.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:44 pm |
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Zero Cool
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 1:17 am Posts: 563
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Sion9 wrote: It really depends on your uber team. If it were Palkia vs Dialga, as Alkhazor said, it really depends on training and moves. A Dialga with Roar of Time, its signature move, is going to have a difficult time beating a Palkia with Protect.
How so? If the attack doesn't do damage then it doesn't recharge. But seeing as Palkia is faster and can learn EQ with its 120 Base Power Atk stat, with a Life Orb of Choice Band it may be able to OHKO a Dialga. If not Roar Of Time would take out palkia in a heart beat.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:03 pm |
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Joey90
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon May 14, 2007 3:43 am Posts: 396 Location: UK
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Protect won't protect Palkia for long
It has an almost nil chance of actually out-PPing Roar of time, so it will just stall its death... (sorry 'fainting')
On the other hand EQ could do it... maybe.
Also... Dialga looks so much cooler
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:11 pm |
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Takien
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:21 am Posts: 88 Location: Antarctica
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I think Dialga, because of it's long list of resistances and only two weaknesses, I'm pretty sure.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:55 pm |
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deoxys65
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:25 pm Posts: 40 Location: Back Home... Back To Work
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Palkia is faster, (at least mine is) And has a better signature move.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:06 pm |
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Omniscient
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Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:40 pm Posts: 32 Location: Bronx, NY
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deoxys65 wrote: Palkia is faster, (at least mine is) And has a better signature move.
They have the same base stats.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:26 pm |
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Eldred Fireax
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:19 am Posts: 108 Location: Yes
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Err... no they don't.
HP - 90
Atk - 120
Def - 100
SA - 150
SD - 120
Spd - 100
HP - 100
Atk - 120
Def - 120
SA - 150
SD - 100
Spd - 90
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:30 pm |
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ShadowTyranitar
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun May 06, 2007 5:12 pm Posts: 214 Location: Realgam Tower
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^I think he meant same total base stats.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:38 pm |
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tyranitar_268
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:10 am Posts: 71
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i'll sum up why i think dialga is better:
dialga is NOT weak to dragon attacks, but palkia is, so dialga can OHKO palkia with roar of time.
dialga just looks plain cooler.
and, honestl, how many dragon steel types are their in the history of pokemon? not many...
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:31 pm |
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Wilesthegreat
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:51 am Posts: 105
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thekiller0703 wrote: Just nobody say anything about this.
Let's see how long it takes him to figure it out.
LOL
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:36 pm |
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Eldred Fireax
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:19 am Posts: 108 Location: Yes
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tyranitar_268 wrote: i'll sum up why i think dialga is better:
dialga is NOT weak to dragon attacks, but palkia is, so dialga can OHKO palkia with roar of time.
Palkia's Aura Sphere says hi.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:38 pm |
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empoleon99
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i would go for dialga dont know why just do
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Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:57 am |
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behersk
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:46 pm Posts: 44
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In my experience, Dialga usually wins vs Palkia with one Roar of Time (Super Effective + STAB = dead Palkia). If the Palkia can go first (or RoT misses) and get a good enough hit with Aura Sphere, though...
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Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:25 am |
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Bobsymalone
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:42 pm Posts: 60
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Why is everybody talking about putting Roar of Time on Dialga? Roar of Time is garbage. Dragon Pulse is better in almost every situation.
CLaSsicK wrote:
How so? If the attack doesn't do damage then it doesn't recharge. But seeing as Palkia is faster and can learn EQ with its 120 Base Power Atk stat, with a Life Orb of Choice Band it may be able to OHKO a Dialga. If not Roar Of Time would take out palkia in a heart beat.
I swear, if you give a Palkia earthquake over earth power, I will kill you. Aura Sphere has the same power, and slightly more type coverage in the uber tier, and cannot miss, so you should go with that anyway.
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