and i frig hate Palmer.
that guy totally cheats.

i've not seen his Dragonite's Dragon Rush miss one time. that's pretty peculiar for an attack with a 75% accuracy rate.

and his Rhyperior wasted my Heracross with one Flamethrower. maybe it's just me, but i was pretty sure that Rhyperior's special attack was abyssmal.

and for the sake of not being ridiculed for creating a useless thread, is AI hax pissing you off too? vent your frustration here.

really? palmer wasn't hard for me, only one try. but that does suck, dep. on how many dragon rush's hit you? i can relate to AI cheating (is that what HAX means - always wondered that) though.

palmer.. the gym leader?
i had no problem with him..
maybe you should try using pokemon that are more advantageous against his..
heracross against flamethrower... is not a great matchup.
try water or grass moves.
bug/fighting is... well, i don't think you can complain about him knocking that out.

oops- little brain fart on the palmer thing..
anyways, i'm not downing heracross, but i AM saying if your trying to use a pokemon with x4 weakness to FIRE, against a pokemon with FLAMETHROWER, you can't complain about being knocked out.
it's common sense. as strong as he is, it's a bad idea to use a bug in that battle.

heracross isnt x4 weak against fire (err krisp be me to that) but how did it get KOed? i mean, even tho rhyperior has monster defense, a STABed SE brick break/close combat should finish it off (not sure here) and even if it didnt, FT shouldnt have 1hko it. not only is rhyperior's spAtk is horrible, and hercross has good (natural) spDef.
and, i feel wat ur going through, i was battling my friend (whos a noob) and lost mainly because stone edge missed 4 straight times from two of my pokes =l

either way, heracross is a retarded choice.
you don't use bug against fire moves.
it's stupid.
your an idiot for trying.
if nothing else, i know better than to do that.
i got a name and a number wrong.
you can't understand why a bug is bad against FIRE.
go outside, grab some matches, and play woth some bugs. ants, moths, caterpillers, whatever.
maybe you will get it then.
palmer doesn't hack. you're just dumb.

Umm ohhkayy... Chill the f out.

Heracross's Fighting type should own Rhyperior's Rock type no problem.
And really, who in the world wiuld have thought a Rock-type Pokemon would have Flamethrower anyway? It's plain unnatural. That's why he used Heracross. Get it?

and besides that you dont bring a team in just because you know it can beat the leader. you have 7 matches to win each time - you just bring a versatile team that can do well.

heracross is AWESOME - it got me a gold symbol in the emerald battle arena, and that place was damn tough. i wish i could have added close combat - having two good STABed base 120 attacks is no laughing matter. yes he has a few weaknesses (like every other pokemon) but his main worry is flying - which IS a 4x weakness. but you can always switch him out, right?

i think the main point roman was making was that when it was up against the rhyperior, he wasnt expecting it to use flamethrower, rather than being surprised flamethrower KO'ed him (although it is a bit of a surprise). it is possible though, because it seems the EV spreads on the AI pokemon are a bit weird - since it had flamethrower, they probably put a few EVs in sp att, so i guess its possible. roman, can i ask - had you already used close combat? if your defenses had already been lowered, maybe that would explain why rhyperiors flamethrower OHKO'ed you. and as for close combat KO'ing rhyperior, if he had the solid rock ability, he only has a 1.5x weakness to fighting - so with really high defenses and HP, it would probably survive to use flamethrower.

by the way, i never realised this before, but rhyperiors attack stat is higher than salamence/metagross/etc!!! wow

and as for a tip for beating palmer, a starmie will do wonders - ice beam for dragonite, and surf for rhyperior i cant remember what the other pokemon was, maybe a special sweeper? if so blissey would do well. i seem to remember he had a heatran, although that might have been the second time you face him.

ah, milotic thats right. blissey beats that easily (from memory i dont think it even has recover - or maybe i just got lucky with paralysis). and starmie for the others. i always had blissey in my team. i used starmie for the first 3 or 4 rounds because most trainers could be beaten easily by just blasting them with attacks. after that i switched to a more reliable team of salamence, blissey and suicune. but i think heracross would be an excellent choice. i would be interested to see how it would fare against the cresselia in the next boss battle (49th i think) - im guessing a choice banded megahorn would come close to a OHKO - if not, definitely 2HKO if he can survive a psychic, but it might use calm mind first.

i still think heracross is a god awful choice.
not to mention that pokemon learn all kinds of fire moves now.
fire isn't as type orriented as it used to be. which i guess, is why i think it's generally a bad idea to use bug against something you don't know much about.
unless you were playing chicken with him, and shooting for who could attack first, it's not a good chance, it seems like whoever attacks first will win.
they've both got a x2 weekness to each other, and ..
gah, why am i getting into this.
i beat him on my first try with no problems.
i think i used my empoleon... or a sharpedo.

if any serious battler heard you say that they would laugh. heracross is awesome. it cant beat all other 492 pokemon, and it has counters. but it is incredible at what it does. with STAB included, megahorn and close combat have 180 base damage. and heracrosses attack is REALLY high. with choice scarf it can outrun pretty much everything (except the outliers and faster pokemon with choice scarf). with choice band, those atacks go up to more like 270 each. if guts is activated, then God help you. i reckon skarm would just about be a OHKO with guts, choice band, and close combat.

this is probably like arguing with a mannequin. because im sure the next person will say oh no heracross is teh 5ux, but yeah.... it doesnt. and if youre thinking about writing that, then dont make a fool of yourself like so many already have.

i'm not saying heracross sucks!
you people are taking what i'm saying the wrong way.
what i'm saying is that he's a bug pokemon.
and is weak to fire.
the guy stating palmer cheats said so because his heracross was knocked out by a flamethrower.
what i'm trying to say is that it's not palmer cheating. it's basic pokemon knowledge that flamethrower is going to deal a lot of damge to a heracross.

yeah, because i was fully aware that a Rock/Ground type with notoriously crappy Special Attack would be carrying Flamethrower. you're so right. please excuse me in my inexperience. :eye roll:

and don't ever call me an idiot again. Heracross and Rhyperior were our final Pokemon. it's not like i had a whole lot of options, eh? the Battle Tower does hack. ask anyone on this forum.

i'd appreciate it if you'd stay off any of my threads if that's the kind of mundane BS you're going to post.

and btw, i appreciate everyone else's points of view. and no, a STABed Close Combat isn't quite enough to take down a Rhyperior. two would've more than done it, though.

it's not just Palmer. i pretty much always feel screwed over in the Battle Tower. maybe my team is crap, i dunno.

knowrites would you expect a Ground/Rock type to have Flamethrower?
its okay Roman i get screwed over in the battle tower too 8(

What annoyed about Palmer's ryperior is that not only does it have flamethrower but ICE BEAM, that just takes the mick.

You want annoying in the BT, how about missing 5 times with earthquake due to some bright powder?

ohh, i know!

i can't even count the number of times i've had a 100% accurate attack miss even though no accuracy-reducing or evasiveness-increasing move was used.

it's a conspiracy.

i remember thinking when brightpowder was like the awesomest (lol) item, so, back in the RSE days, i gave my milotic brightpowder and everything hit milotic (sheer cold once, if i may add) for about 15-20 battles.

umm..
no. you're a cocky bastard who seems to think he runs things.
you can't say the game hacks. if ti was hacking, it would be part of the game, and therefore not a hack.
eitherway, its a webforum, with open registration, so i will post where i please, and i will state my opinions.
i live in america, i have that right.
commy.
and i will excuse your inexperience, so long as you stop saying the game cheats.
it's an ignorant statement, and it's not becoming of a gamer.


..idiot.

the battle tower does not "cheat" by entering a code, it just raises the probability of certain things occurring for only the AI after a certain amount of floors or something.

so it is acceptable to say that the BT does cheat. the game does not plug an AR into itself, but it raises probability of things occurring but does so only for the AI and makes life harder for you.

back on topic, yes, I know the tower cheats. I beat Palmer by dumb luck when *gasp* Dragon Rush missed. I had to go back to him like ten times, mind you I had pretty strong Pokemon.

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i live in america, i have that right.

You are posting on the ADMINISTRATOR'S forum, therefore you have NO RIGHTS. This is a internet, not America.

p.s. For your ignorant statement of "I LIVE IN AMERICA SO I HAS RIGHTS" and for personally insulting Roman, you can have a special probation rank.

lol.
you can pretend what you do matters for as long as you want.
we're all banging on buckets.
and just tolet you know, the supreme court ruled that freedom of speach applys to the internet.
****!

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