Ninjasks don't really run max speed.

Ninjask@ Focus Sash
176 HP 252 ATK 80 SPEED
Jolly
Substitute
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
X-Scissor / Aerial Ace

Use this set.

First use Swords Dance then as your opponent attacks you survive w/ 1 hp and then you've got one speed boost and a sd, then pass.

How bout:
@lefties/focus sash
Speed Boost | Relaxed (-Sp.Atk +Def) | 252Hp, 129Def, 129Sp.Def
Swords Dance
Protect
Silver Wind/Substitute (substitute is a double-edged sword coz you waste 1 turn)
Baton Pass

1st turn: SD if foe doens't have Rock Slide or any rock-type move. Use Protect if it has a rock-type move.
End of 1st turn: Gain +1Spd
2nd turn: If you used protect then you can use SD instead and vice versa.
End of 2nd turn: You gain a total of +2Atk and +2Spd boost.
3rd turn: use Batton Pass on any pokemon you like. You like to batton pass on but to me a boosted is deadlier but it's your choice.

O.o You too? You like to pass to ? o.O Anyway, the problem with your set is that the EVs and nature aren't implemented well; Ninjask will get taken down in one hit 99% of the time, so the investments in HP, defense, and special defense would be a waste. The nature isn't all too helpful either. Generally you'll want a speed boosting nature, such as Jolly (the best one). As for the EVs, you'll want to max attack and put some in HP and Spe. If you want to use an attacking move, then go with X-Scissor, because Silver Wind is special, while X-Scissors is physical, and Ninjask's base attack is higher than its base special attack. The 10% chance of boosting all stats that Silver Wind offers is nice, but having to rely on 10% isn't, so it's not worth it.

Substitute isn't a bad move at all, and you're not really "wasting" moves; you're just stalling. The only thing you can accomplish with it is maxing out speed before a pass. That is what sets it apart from the Focus Sash builds. This is how it should work:

1: Sub, speed boost
2: Protect, speed boost
3: Sub, speed boost
4: Protect, speed boost
5: Sub, speed boost
6: Protect, speed boost

Personally, I don't think it's as effective as the Focus Sash build; I like my Swords Dance boosts.



True, Ninjask doesn't need all of that speed, but it's not like those EVs are very worthwhile in other stats (well, maybe if you're trying to make it Stealth Rock/ Sandstorm-worthy). I personally like your spread better, but sadly the Ninjask I have is at level 100 with 252 HP/ 6 Atk/ 252 Spe (I dislike trading for EVed Pokemon on Marriland). I don't believe in 6/ 252/ 252 spreads. Max speed has its uses, but the circumstances are uncommon. Well, I'm on the fence regarding whether or not to max out (it's not like those HP EVs are very useful either...decisions...decisions).


O.o You too? You like to pass to ? o.O Anyway, the problem with your set is that the EVs and nature aren't implemented well; Ninjask will get taken down in one hit 99% of the time, so the investments in HP, defense, and special defense would be a waste. The nature isn't all too helpful either. Generally you'll want a speed boosting nature, such as Jolly (the best one). As for the EVs, you'll want to max attack and put some in HP and Spe. If you want to use an attacking move, then go with X-Scissor, because Silver Wind is special, while X-Scissors is physical, and Ninjask's base attack is higher than its base special attack. The 10% chance of boosting all stats that Silver Wind offers is nice, but having to rely on 10% isn't, so it's not worth it.

Substitute isn't a bad move at all, and you're not really "wasting" moves; you're just stalling. The only thing you can accomplish with it is maxing out speed before a pass. That is what sets it apart from the Focus Sash builds. This is how it should work:

1: Sub, speed boost
2: Protect, speed boost
3: Sub, speed boost
4: Protect, speed boost
5: Sub, speed boost
6: Protect, speed boost

Personally, I don't think it's as effective as the Focus Sash build; I like my Swords Dance boosts.

What about your SD? when will you use it knowing that is only 1 hit away from death?

That's the point I was trying to make about substitute sets; you'll rarely have time to SD. That's why I don't like sub sets. The berry idea is good though. IMO, Focus Sash is better, if you want to pass speed and SD, cuz SD boosts 2 stages, whereas the berries boost only 1, and the max speed that sub offers isn't worth it cuz often times you only need 1-2 speed boosts (unless they're just that slow). The berries are useful if you want to pass something other than speed and attack though.