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DragonSpear
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:52 pm Posts: 166 Location: Umm...that's a good question
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I need an answer. Ramparados or Rhyperior. Both strong, both rock, what would you choose on your team?
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Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:18 pm |
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pokeguy08
Bug Catcher
Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:18 pm Posts: 23
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well rampardos has killer attack. rhyperior has moves like horn drill and earthquake. if u want to try ur luck on 1 hit KOs go for rhyperior, but if u going for hard hits use rampardos
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:44 pm |
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Takien
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:21 am Posts: 88 Location: Antarctica
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I'd have to go with Rampardosa, for a couple reasons. First, it has the highest attack, save attack Deoxys. Secondly, it doesn't have those x4 weaknesses to water and grass like Rhyperior. I actually started training a Rampardos, and it's worked out well.
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:18 pm |
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mewtwo360
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:21 am Posts: 139 Location: Catnip World, UK
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My reason is totally biased, but I would choose Rhyperior.He has earthquake and I like the one hit K.O's.
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:20 pm |
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gamer guy
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Wed May 30, 2007 11:57 am Posts: 863 Location: I'm stuck somewhere... Not quite sure where that is though.
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One hit KOs aren't even worth mentioning. Rampardos does well if there is some BPer on your team or as a Scarfer. Rhyperior is a physical sponge but sadly he is weak against ground moves. His attack is awesome as well though. I would put Rampardos to use before Rhyperior but it mainly depends on what you are using them for.
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:31 pm |
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MasonTheChef
Pokemon Master
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:02 am Posts: 1575 Location: Michigan
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I would choose Rypherior. Solid rock drops his two 4x weakness to 2x and removes all his 2x weaknesses
Rypherior also has a very diverse movepool and good DEF stats in addition to good ATK
Ramparados is uber strong, but it's speed and low def/s.def can cause it's downfall. Although choice scarf can help it really limits his ability against multiple opponets.
Rypherior also learns Rock wrecker, a 150 power STAB attack. so a 225 power attack total. I'm not sure but that probably pales all of Ramparados's moves in sheer power.
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:37 pm |
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VictorZ
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:42 pm Posts: 17 Location: Teh Bay Area :D
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Rhyperior hands down. Try this
Rhyperior @ Choice band or Leftovers
[Solid rock] Adamant - 252 Attack 252 Hp 6 Def -OR- 252 Attack 129 Hp and 129 Def
Earthquake
Stone Edge/Rockslide
Megahorn
Hammer arm/Thunder fang/Crunch/Swords dance
Use Leftovers if you're planning to use swords dance.
Hammer arm is a decent move since Rhyperior's speed stat isn't exactly good, so it will be attacking second anyways.
But if you do want to use Rampardos, then -
Rampardos @ Focus Sash or Choice band
[ Mold Breaker ]Adamant - 252 Attack, 252 Hp, 6 def -OR- 252 Attack 129 Hp and 129 Def
Hammer arm/Brick break
Earthquake
Rockslide/Stone edge
Rock Polish/Zen head butt/Pursuit
Head smash receives too big of a recoil. Use brick break with rock polish and focus sash. I would likely recommend Focus sash with rock polish to sweep.
Hope I helped.
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Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:07 pm |
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DragonSpear
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:52 pm Posts: 166 Location: Umm...that's a good question
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You guys are geniuses. tell me more about how it will effect in double battles
And Vic Z, nice thinking
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:56 am |
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The Jonatron
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:42 pm Posts: 253
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The only people who didnt talk rubbish where Gamer Guy and Victor, Taiken only forgot solid rock, *3 weaknesses, not *4
Rampardos, is the Glass cannon, Slow, easily shattered, but packs one hell of a punch. If you give it a Choice Scarf, it'll outspeed SOMETHING for a chance to attack and use that staggering Attack Stat, or Sash for a Sandstorm Proof Sure Attack or to try a Rock Polish so you attempt to hit more.
Rock Wrecker? FAIL! Its a Hyperbeam move, You dont want to be doin' that.
OHKOs? Competative Battling? Fail!
Rampardos is not suited to Double Battles, As even with the Sash, any Smartie, will be trying to bomb him with 2 Attacks to get the big Boxing Glove pointed somewhere else.
Solid Rock does not half Supereffective Dmg it takes away a Quarter of it. So its *4 Weaknesses become *3 and its *2 become *1.5
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:45 am |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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1)
+High attack and good HP...
+Good Ability(Hit Bronzong and levitators w/ EQ !!!)
+Head Smash (That's one of the reasons he would be a better choice than )
+Endeavor (A little bit of surprise...)
-His best attack kill him when use it more than 3 times(in best case scenario...)
-Bad defenses and ridiculous speed...(You can B-pass some speed to him...)
-Average movepool...(Rock,Ground,Psychic,Dark,Fight;No thank you...)
-Bad type...(Pure Rock...1 Stab,5 weaknesses,4 resistances...)
Opinion:
Only people with great courage should use this...
he will die on the first super effective move that hits him(unless he has F.Sash...).
His high Att is not all that scary..
What really make difference on him is Head Smash that have power to make him really a better sweeper...
without it he just a or ,without the defense,the second stab and a little better attack...
It is useful to kill what stone edge doesn't( i recommend using both of them with rampardos...)
just like ...
If you use a choice Scarf with Max IVs and Efforts on speed:
Adamant:You will be faster then the 110 base speed group pokemon without a +speed...
(ex:Modest Gengar someone use it????)
Jolly:You will be faster than any 110 base speed pokemon
(ex:timid gengar...)
Rating:** (in my opinion...)
2)
+Good Attack,HP and Defense
+Good ability for tanking...
+Good Movepool
-Bad Speed and S.Def...
-Lacks a instant recovery move...
-Average type (2 stabs,5 resistances,1 immunity,4 weaknesses,2 double weaknesses...)
Opinion:
Smogon wrote: Rhyperior's biggest problem is the competition he faces for a team slot. Although he possesses greater defensive stats than any of his fellow Ground types his lack of instant recovery is a let down, something Gliscor and Hippowdon both have access to. Swampert's offensive and defensive stats seem poor compared to Rhyperior, but the mudfish has superior defensive typing and can use special attacks effectively.
When considering Rhyperior for a slot as an offensive Pokémon, his piss poor Speed means he requires support to effectively use Swords Dance to sweep with. Garchomp on the other hand is fast enough not to require such support in order to sweep. Metagross provides stiff competition for the Rock Polish variants as he is able to reach much higher Speeds.
However, this does not take away from the fact that Rhyperior is a very powerful Pokémon indeed. 434 HP and 394 Defense is very hard to break alongside Solid Rock and with the potential for a free Special Defense buff from Sandstorm he can take quite a beating. Rhyperior is not to be underestimated and a good choice on most teams if you can play to his strengths.
I was to lazy to write all so...i take some from smogon...
Rating:***
Both of them are at BL and stuff but i would choose .
That have a good attack too,but with some defense to cover him up...
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:53 am |
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DragonSpear
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:52 pm Posts: 166 Location: Umm...that's a good question
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Good idea. i really like that. say if i put a tyranitar in the picture, still which would be stronger
Oh yeah congrats Bushin
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:09 pm |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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DragonSpear wrote: Good idea. i really like that. say if i put a tyranitar in the picture, still which would be stronger
Oh yeah congrats Bushin
You mean the strongest between , and ?
all the way!!!
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Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:40 pm |
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The Jonatron
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:42 pm Posts: 253
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I think he meant with Sandstorm support....
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:04 pm |
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DragonSpear
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:52 pm Posts: 166 Location: Umm...that's a good question
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Hmmm.. ya, i kinda understand why you chose that.
I works out good with Garchomp because it has sand viel.
That gives me other ideas...
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:45 pm |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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The Jonatron wrote: I think he meant with Sandstorm support....
Even without the sandstream...
He is the only one between the that can be a special sweeper or even Mixed...
better stats,movepool,ability,and other things a am to lazy to remember now...
(Tyraniboah...anyone?)
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:07 pm |
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DragonSpear
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:52 pm Posts: 166 Location: Umm...that's a good question
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Actually, if you see the strenghts, Tyranitar-130 attack, Rhyperior-140 attack, Ramparados-160.
Rampardos is faster than the other 2, Rhyperior is an all-round good stat, tyranitar has good defence. Probably weaknesses and moves set them apart more than any other reason. gosh, there's alot at stake here!(kidding )
Okay, now I'm gonna change things a bit. what would u say is the strongest pokemon for single, double battles and also your fave (some reason to like it) : , , , , , or (basically dragon pokemon)
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:27 pm |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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600 Base Total
535 Base Total
495 Base Total
I know base stats don't say everything( proves it... ) but they say a lot about your pokemon...
Tyranitar can boost his speed and attack...
(Dragon Dance,this alone make him one of the best rock types around...) at the same time he has a S.Def boost on first turn ,and he can make his opponents Leftovers useless...
And some others nasty tricks...
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:47 pm |
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Sapphirath
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:25 am Posts: 627 Location: Singapore
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Hmm...both have their Weaknesses and both have their Strenghts, but I would go for Rhyperior because it doesn't get 1HKOed that easily....Rhamparados has too puny Defenses.
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Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:46 pm |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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There's no right or wrong on this...
Everyone has an different opinion...
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Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:28 am |
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DragonSpear
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:52 pm Posts: 166 Location: Umm...that's a good question
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Hmm.. I am not trying to be a critic, but 's weakness to fighting can kill him easily because even with a good defence, a focus blast or cross chop can OHKO.
{ramparados} even though has killer attack has going to get killed defence.
has good stats but is slow and his strongest attack (rock wrecker) takes a turn to recharge. You might as well use a 75 powered attack for 2 turns.
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Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:17 pm |
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The Jonatron
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:42 pm Posts: 253
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Rock Wrecker sucks, Dont mention it, dont whisper it. Put in in a wicker basket and burn it.
If TTar sees anything that resembles a Fighting type or might use fighting moves, its going to make like a Horror movie chick, and run away screaming. Fast.
Basestats are redundant. Its where the stats are, not how many all over are. See 'random EVs'.
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Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:32 pm |
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DragonSpear
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:52 pm Posts: 166 Location: Umm...that's a good question
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You're a funny guy I'll try to see if i can find any other way to find info
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Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:12 am |
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Bushin
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais
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The Jonatron wrote: Rock Wrecker sucks, Dont mention it, dont whisper it. Put in in a wicker basket and burn it.
If TTar sees anything that resembles a Fighting type or might use fighting moves, its going to make like a Horror movie chick, and run away screaming. Fast.
Basestats are redundant. Its where the stats are, not how many all over are. See 'random EVs'.
Oh RLY?
And would do the same if he sees anything that resembles a
Water/Grass type or might use those move...
and will be dead if anything can outspeed him and hit him with a super effective move...
(Mach punch anyone?)
And about the basestats TTar have they just where he needs...
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HP:100 Att:134 Def:110 S.Att:95 S.Def:100 Speed:61
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HP:115 Att:140 Def:130 S.Att:55 S.Def:55 Speed:40
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HP:97 Att:165 Def:60 S.Att:65 S.Def:50 Speed:58
TTar has more speed and Sp.Def of the 3...
but he has the worse attack which doesn't matter since he can get a choice band,dragon dance...
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Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:15 am |
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DragonSpear
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:52 pm Posts: 166 Location: Umm...that's a good question
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Okaaayy... how about if I add in the picture. Who would be a better choice
( oh yeah, I have 1 more , how do you find your friend code because I cant find mine)
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Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:07 pm |
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The Obsidian Wolf
Pokemon Master
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:03 am Posts: 1559 Location: Dragon's Den
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DragonSpear wrote: Okaaayy... how about if I add in the picture. Who would be a better choice
( oh yeah, I have 1 more , how do you find your friend code because I cant find mine)
Aggron fails. Yeah, it has loads of Defence, but it's got a four times weakness to the two commonly used attacks in the game; EQ + Fighting attack. Also, Special attacks hurt is (Water, woot)
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