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Oh...and by saying that the Dragon Egg group no longer count as Non-alternate Pokemon, I think you're telling me that I WASTED SO MUCH OF MY TIME AND EFFORT TO TRAIN THOSE EGG GROUP POKEMON TO BE IN MY GYM! I raised a Gyarados, Milotic, Aerodactly and Charizard for NOTHING? Come on! It was so much trouble already when you people said semi-legits weren't allowed and I had to retrain those Pokemon and now you're telling me they won't be used for non-alternate Pokemon??


It's not like those are bad choices for alts.

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^It wasn't a intentional disconnection, don't you get that


NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. Sorry to be the one to tell you this. And please don't double post anymore. And please, NO MORE TALK ABOUT DISCONNECTION!!!


I'm not trying to help/defend ROT by saying all this...it's just that the rules are very unfair concerning DCs.....if an UNINTENTIONAL DC happened are you going to suspend the person because of that? Just award the win to the one who didn't DC...I think it's much fairer...I don't want to be suspended cos something went wrong with my modem and caused a DC. Unless you guys are VERY extremely most definitely absolutely sure that you will NOT experience ANY technical problems while playing I think you guys should give a thought about what will happen if you DCed UNINTENTIONALLY and had to face the penalty which is a Suspension or a Ban.


UMM...Thats what the rule is you're just restating it.


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Sapphirath wrote:
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^It wasn't a intentional disconnection, don't you get that


NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. Sorry to be the one to tell you this. And please don't double post anymore. And please, NO MORE TALK ABOUT DISCONNECTION!!!


I'm not trying to help/defend ROT by saying all this...it's just that the rules are very unfair concerning DCs.....if an UNINTENTIONAL DC happened are you going to suspend the person because of that? Just award the win to the one who didn't DC...I think it's much fairer...I don't want to be suspended cos something went wrong with my modem and caused a DC. Unless you guys are VERY extremely most definitely absolutely sure that you will NOT experience ANY technical problems while playing I think you guys should give a thought about what will happen if you DCed UNINTENTIONALLY and had to face the penalty which is a Suspension or a Ban.

Oh...and by saying that the Dragon Egg group no longer count as Non-alternate Pokemon, I think you're telling me that I WASTED SO MUCH OF MY TIME AND EFFORT TO TRAIN THOSE EGG GROUP POKEMON TO BE IN MY GYM! I raised a Gyarados, Milotic, Aerodactly and Charizard for NOTHING? Come on! It was so much trouble already when you people said semi-legits weren't allowed and I had to retrain those Pokemon and now you're telling me they won't be used for non-alternate Pokemon??


Problems happen, like a DC, now why do you blame me for this, it could have been a actual error. Anyway have you noticed that Lance in-game uses Gyarados, and Aerodactyl. In GSC, he uses Charizard, Aero and Gyarados, now I am limited to only dragon pokemon for non alts, not the egg group, you guys are total planks.

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UGH PLEASE EVERYONE SHUTUP ABOUT THIS TOPIC I WILL START BANNING IF THIS CONTINUES.
Now then...

Just to make sure about the testing policy..
If you apply and fail against both testers then you will have to wait 9 days to re apply but you will only have one more chance to apply.


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When,if there is one,is the deadline for testing?

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IDK if this is possible, but how bout by the 6th of December (07 - in the U.S)?


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i dont think anyone was saying that disconnection = banned/suspended. just that the win should be awarded to the person who was clearly winning (which is usually pretty easy to tell - if there is a dispute, it can be heard by one of the BL admin people, and possibly a rematch organised). ROT has now disconnected THREE times in situations where he was clearly losing. in each case he tried to rechallenge the opponent with different rules, which gave him an advantage. i personally believe that if that happened again, then he definitely should be banned.

as for the dragon thing, it has been voted that the DRAGON leader has to use three DRAGONs. if youre not happy with this rule, then you dont have to be the DRAGON leader. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO BOTH OF YOU? it doesnt matter what "lance" does or doesnt use - lance is not in this battle league is he? a real "dragon-tamer" would laugh at you for choosing to be the dragon leader, and then being too scared to actually use three dragons. and yes, you are "limited" to the pokemon of your type, and calling us all "total planks" (whetever thats supposed to mean) isnt going to win you any favours.

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IDK if this is possible, but how bout by the 6th of December (07 - in the U.S)?
How about the 17th(U.S.)

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KOL40 wrote:
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Oh...and by saying that the Dragon Egg group no longer count as Non-alternate Pokemon, I think you're telling me that I WASTED SO MUCH OF MY TIME AND EFFORT TO TRAIN THOSE EGG GROUP POKEMON TO BE IN MY GYM! I raised a Gyarados, Milotic, Aerodactly and Charizard for NOTHING? Come on! It was so much trouble already when you people said semi-legits weren't allowed and I had to retrain those Pokemon and now you're telling me they won't be used for non-alternate Pokemon??


It's not like those are bad choices for alts.


True as you stated it...but better choices roam free out there...so shall it be...crippled or crippled not...it puzzles me...why vote on this ages after it was established? Why did not you people voice out against the Dragon Egg Group the moment it was proclaimed? Have you people any idea how much time and effort were wasted because of that? :(


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as for the dragon thing, it has been voted that the DRAGON leader has to use three DRAGONs. if youre not happy with this rule, then you dont have to be the DRAGON leader. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO BOTH OF YOU? it doesnt matter what "lance" does or doesnt use - lance is not in this battle league is he? a real "dragon-tamer" would laugh at you for choosing to be the dragon leader, and then being too scared to actually use three dragons. and yes, you are "limited" to the pokemon of your type, and calling us all "total planks" (whetever thats supposed to mean) isnt going to win you any favours.


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i think we did voice our opinions quite early on. and no-one "proclaimed" anything about it. it was merely suggested that dragon egg group pokemon should be allowed. apart from the two dragon leaders only one person thought it was a fair rule. (by the way, aerodactly isnt even in the dragon egg group.)

as for "wasted time and effort", the rules in the first post are pretty clear about having to use 3 pokemon of your type. USE 3 OF YOUR TYPE. then someone comes along and says they think you should be able to use egg-group pokemon, and you go and invest enormous amounts of time and effort, when it still contradicted the rules in the first post, when they didnt have the endorsement of the guy who started the whole thing. if it took such a long time, then surely you would have noticed people complaining about the egg-group idea, and realised maybe you should stop wasting time?

anyway, i personally think that if either of the dragon leaders keep complaining about it, their positions should be given to someone else who will happily use three dragons without complaining. not because i dont like either of them, but because this thread has become so troublesome as a result of this stupid dispute. i tested ghett0 for the bug leader position - and if anyone deserves to "complain" about a lack of pokemon, its the bug leader - but he happily used 3 bugs, and was a lot less scared than either of you guys are with your dragons. and no offense to ghett0, but thats a disgrace.

oh and by the way.......... why speak you like yoda?

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Cuddles wrote:
i think we did voice our opinions quite early on. and no-one "proclaimed" anything about it. it was merely suggested that dragon egg group pokemon should be allowed. apart from the two dragon leaders only one person thought it was a fair rule. (by the way, aerodactly isnt even in the dragon egg group.)

as for "wasted time and effort", the rules in the first post are pretty clear about having to use 3 pokemon of your type. USE 3 OF YOUR TYPE. then someone comes along and says they think you should be able to use egg-group pokemon, and you go and invest enormous amounts of time and effort, when it still contradicted the rules in the first post, when they didnt have the endorsement of the guy who started the whole thing. if it took such a long time, then surely you would have noticed people complaining about the egg-group idea, and realised maybe you should stop wasting time?

anyway, i personally think that if either of the dragon leaders keep complaining about it, their positions should be given to someone else who will happily use three dragons without complaining. not because i dont like either of them, but because this thread has become so troublesome as a result of this stupid dispute. i tested ghett0 for the bug leader position - and if anyone deserves to "complain" about a lack of pokemon, its the bug leader - but he happily used 3 bugs, and was a lot less scared than either of you guys are with your dragons. and no offense to ghett0, but thats a disgrace.

oh and by the way.......... why speak you like yoda?


What are you calling a disgrace?

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i think we did voice our opinions quite early on. and no-one "proclaimed" anything about it. it was merely suggested that dragon egg group pokemon should be allowed. apart from the two dragon leaders only one person thought it was a fair rule. (by the way, aerodactly isnt even in the dragon egg group.)

as for "wasted time and effort", the rules in the first post are pretty clear about having to use 3 pokemon of your type. USE 3 OF YOUR TYPE. then someone comes along and says they think you should be able to use egg-group pokemon, and you go and invest enormous amounts of time and effort, when it still contradicted the rules in the first post, when they didnt have the endorsement of the guy who started the whole thing. if it took such a long time, then surely you would have noticed people complaining about the egg-group idea, and realised maybe you should stop wasting time?

anyway, i personally think that if either of the dragon leaders keep complaining about it, their positions should be given to someone else who will happily use three dragons without complaining. not because i dont like either of them, but because this thread has become so troublesome as a result of this stupid dispute. i tested ghett0 for the bug leader position - and if anyone deserves to "complain" about a lack of pokemon, its the bug leader - but he happily used 3 bugs, and was a lot less scared than either of you guys are with your dragons. and no offense to ghett0, but thats a disgrace.

oh and by the way.......... why speak you like yoda?


What are you calling a disgrace?


the fact that people keep putting you down, yet when you want to be the bug leader and they want to be the dragon leader, you have way more guts than them, even though their pokemon are way stronger than yours. (im not saying that either of the dragon leaders have put you down, but im pretty sure about one of them.)

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i dont think anyone was saying that disconnection = banned/suspended. just that the win should be awarded to the person who was clearly winning (which is usually pretty easy to tell - if there is a dispute, it can be heard by one of the BL admin people, and possibly a rematch organised). ROT has now disconnected THREE times in situations where he was clearly losing. in each case he tried to rechallenge the opponent with different rules, which gave him an advantage. i personally believe that if that happened again, then he definitely should be banned.

as for the dragon thing, it has been voted that the DRAGON leader has to use three DRAGONs. if youre not happy with this rule, then you dont have to be the DRAGON leader. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO BOTH OF YOU? it doesnt matter what "lance" does or doesnt use - lance is not in this battle league is he? a real "dragon-tamer" would laugh at you for choosing to be the dragon leader, and then being too scared to actually use three dragons. and yes, you are "limited" to the pokemon of your type, and calling us all "total planks" (whetever thats supposed to mean) isnt going to win you any favours.


You made a assumation, it may have been a actual problem. Anyway 'Total Planks' was the most non-rude word I could think of cause I don't wanna flame. You. Guys. Are. Total. Planks.

Or I can call you dispicable. So dispicable, stop ****ing blaming me for the DC, my DS is damaged near the wireless transiver, that's probably why it DCed, plus I had a battle with KOL40 and he won without a DC

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Or I can call you dispicable. So dispicable, stop ****ing blaming me for the DC, my DS is damaged near the wireless transiver, that's probably why it DCed, plus I had a battle with KOL40 and he won without a DC


We're still supposed to do round 2, or do you forfiet?

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I guess no one listened to me...

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UGH PLEASE EVERYONE SHUTUP ABOUT THIS TOPIC I WILL START BANNING IF THIS CONTINUES.


Anyways I hope I'm the last to comment about this since Cuddles brought up a good point:

RoT:
2 people, who are the "mods" for this League have said on multiple accounts that you disconnected when you were apparently losing. Now the truth behind this is unknown (he said she said). The ethetical thing to do is award the person the win and move on. No changing the rules whatsoever. Now if you are fed up with the way the rules are layed out just clamly describe your case and let it go about a page or so then if nothing is accomplished then stop talking about it. However, if you decide to bad-mouthed anyone of us, then just leave.

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Its my fault for letting that Dragon Egg group situation happen worse then it already is. Saying that, I've come to realize that Gyms should have pokemon that correspond with their type (it actually says its a Dragon as one of its Types). It doesnt matter what EggGroup or what trainer in a game uses, it matters on what the pokemon's type actually is.


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i dont think anyone was saying that disconnection = banned/suspended. just that the win should be awarded to the person who was clearly winning (which is usually pretty easy to tell - if there is a dispute, it can be heard by one of the BL admin people, and possibly a rematch organised). ROT has now disconnected THREE times in situations where he was clearly losing. in each case he tried to rechallenge the opponent with different rules, which gave him an advantage. i personally believe that if that happened again, then he definitely should be banned.

as for the dragon thing, it has been voted that the DRAGON leader has to use three DRAGONs. if youre not happy with this rule, then you dont have to be the DRAGON leader. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO BOTH OF YOU? it doesnt matter what "lance" does or doesnt use - lance is not in this battle league is he? a real "dragon-tamer" would laugh at you for choosing to be the dragon leader, and then being too scared to actually use three dragons. and yes, you are "limited" to the pokemon of your type, and calling us all "total planks" (whetever thats supposed to mean) isnt going to win you any favours.


You made a assumation, it may have been a actual problem. Anyway 'Total Planks' was the most non-rude word I could think of cause I don't wanna flame. You. Guys. Are. Total. Planks.

Or I can call you dispicable. So dispicable, stop ****ing blaming me for the DC, my DS is damaged near the wireless transiver, that's probably why it DCed, plus I had a battle with KOL40 and he won without a DC


actually, YOU made an assumption. i have not said it was definitely your fault for disconnecting, just two things: 1) its a little sus that they always come when youre losing (making it "hard to believe" that it wasnt your fault, but we will give you the benefit of the doubt since there is no way to prove anything), and 2) that if a disconnection occurs, you dont go around trying to make things better for yourself.

sorry for talking about this again, but i just wanted ROT to know that we're not all "blaming" him for the disconnections. as for flaming, well calling anyone names that are obviously not pleasant IS flaming in my book. if we are all total planks, then why dont you look for another forum which will let you be the dragon gym leader, and use lapras.

ROT - get your DS fixed, or use your sisters, or whatever. and if you get a disconnection, the win goes to the other player. and use three dragons. and stop being a nuissance.

everyone else, lets just try and enjoy this battle league. lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hopefully we can look past this.

Now then, I'm setting a goal for myself to get my team ready for late January. :P Now I have one poke down and now I'm ready to start my second one, but those natures are starting to get to me. Anyways, everyone shoulde be at their strongest then, so will I (maybe).


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Hopefully we can look past this.

Now then, I'm setting a goal for myself to get my team ready for late January. :P Now I have one poke down and now I'm ready to start my second one, but those natures are starting to get to me. Anyways, everyone shoulde be at their strongest then, so will I (maybe).


Ah natures a real pain in the @$$.I've only got the correct nature on 2 of my Pokemon so far,man do I got some work to do.

BTW:Anybody have an Impish Ditto I could use prefferably with good DV's?

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BTW:Anybody have an Impish Ditto I could use prefferably with good DV's?


I can loan mines to you... it has 30IVs in defense I believe...


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Alright whatever the cost, RoT or anyone else, if I find out that the rules or broken, such as intentional disconnection (which you will allow the win), then you will:

1st infraction- 2 week suspension
2nd infraction- 1 month suspension
3rd infraction- 2 month suspension and/or removal of GYM
4th infraction- Permanent BAN


This, I believe is the source of what I thought to be Unfair...do things seem clearer now? As I have stated, you cannot prove whether disconnections were with intentions or intentions not...so you cannot condemn a person of intentional disconnection because all these are based on assumptions...you have proof of no kind and so I believe disconnections should not be placed under the category of broken rules.


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Alright whatever the cost, RoT or anyone else, if I find out that the rules or broken, such as intentional disconnection (which you will allow the win), then you will:

1st infraction- 2 week suspension
2nd infraction- 1 month suspension
3rd infraction- 2 month suspension and/or removal of GYM
4th infraction- Permanent BAN


This, I believe is the source of what I thought to be Unfair...do things seem clearer now? As I have stated, you cannot prove whether disconnections were with intentions or intentions not...so you cannot condemn a person of intentional disconnection because all these are based on assumptions...you have proof of no kind and so I believe disconnections should not be placed under the category of broken rules.


He's not saying ANY DC. Just the ones that have reasonable suspicion to be purposful. This is in the face of people who have had several DC's, all of which had similar circumstances. Such as in the face of sure defeat. You will be fine as long as you don't develop a reputation for it.

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Alright then, if I happen to get disconnected often and this DCs happen both when I'm losing and when I'm winning then do you put that as accidental or will you do if unfairly and say say that I did it "Intentionally"? Sorry about going on and on about this but this is a doubt that I have to clarify :?


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Alright then, if I happen to get disconnected often and this DCs happen both when I'm losing and when I'm winning then do you put that as accidental or will you do if unfairly and say say that I did it "Intentionally"? Sorry about going on and on about this but this is a doubt that I have to clarify :?


Nothing will be done unfairly. You have nothing to worry about, as long as you don't do it alot, and when you do do it, just admit to it and it won't be a problem. NOW, PLEASE STOP WHINING ABOUT THIS, IT IS VERY ANNOYING.

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