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mudkipman Ace Trainer Joined: Sat May 27, 2006 1:26 am Posts: 389 Location: Hiding behind a rock 'cuz you're ugly	Okay, P-L alerted me that we are waaaaay behind in rates, so here I am again, rating your teams. FatalFlaw wrote: Can you rate this Magnezone? I'm still trying to decide whether to pump his DEF or SPDEF through his EVs. Magnezone@Leftovers Quiet, 200 HP, 200 SPDEF, 110 SPATK -Thunderbolt -Thunder Wave -Gyro Ball -Metal Sound Magnet Pull OKay, first off, Modest is a bettere nature. Substitute over Metal sound, and try Magnet Rise over Gyro Ball. Max out HP, and go for a 129/129 split def and Spec. Def Thanks in advance. halu102 wrote: Umbreon @ Leftovers Ability: Synchronize Bold: 252 HP / 128 Defense / 128 Sp. Defense -Mean Look -Toxic -Wish -Baton Pass (Regular Toxitrapper and Wish Passer) Looks fine to me --- Vaporeon @ Leftovers Ability: Water Absorb Calm: 252 HP / 176 Defense / 82 Special Defense -Substitute -Aqua Ring -Acid Armor -Baton Pass (Subber and Tank. One question, is it more common to sub up first then aqua ring? or the other way around. And does Aqua Ring prevent psuedo-hazing, like Roar and Whirlwind?) Surf over substitute, you need an attacking move. And no, Aqua Ring does not prevent psuedo-hazing. Mew @ Leftovers Ability: Synchronize Timid: 252 HP / 252 Speed / 6 Sp. Defense -Substitute -Nasty Plot -Amnesia -Baton Pass (Sp. Tank and Nasty Plot BPer. Is Mew looked down upon that he shouldn't be used in wifi? Manaphy is more or less the same thing but water version, but I find him to be much more useful and he's usually in the OU bracket. If Mew is out of the question I was looking to Ambipom as backup, though I lose the sp wall.) So I guess I'm not supposed to rate this? EDIT: Replaced by Celebi at bottom. --- Espeon @ Leftovers Ability: Synchronize Impish: 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed / 6 HP -Sunny Day ---> Shadow Ball -HP Fire -Psychic -Baton Pass (Special Sweeper, more like a Jolteon psychic variant. Also, is there a lot of psychic opposition to warrant HP Bug instead?) EDIT: I decided to replace Sunny Day with Shadow ball, because i found sunny day redundant with Celebi as the Calm Mind passer. Well, Espeon has no use for Baton Pass without Calm Mind, So get rid of HP Fire, as its so-so without Sunny Day. --- Jolteon @ Leftovers Ability: Volt Absorb Impish 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed / 6 HP -Thunderbolt -HP Ice -Agility -Baton Pass (Can BP agility, though I'm thinking Thunderwave might be more useful, not too sure. Also one of the main Sp. Sweepers) Good --- Glaceon @ Leftovers Ability: Snow Cloak Calm: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 Sp. Defense -Ice Beam ---> Protect -Yawn -Wish -Baton Pass (Yawner and Wish Passer. I'm not too sure about Ice Beam since Jolteon already has HP Ice) EDIT: Took out Ice beam since Jolteon had HP Ice, sacrificing the STAB as well. However, I feel that protect has good synergy with yawn and wish for stalling. To be honest, I think that Glaceon doesn't fit as a Baton Passer, try Glaceon@Leftovers Modest 252 HP, 129 Spec Atk, 129 Spec Def Substitute Ice Beam Shadow Ball Wish Oh, and my general strategy, is to trap or yawn, then put up the appropriate wall then nasty plot as much as possible usually 2 is good and put up the appropriate sweeper. I'm still very very new to wifi battle and was wondering if a BP team like this is even viable at all. Again, I look forward to any feedback, and think it's wonderful you guys are review others teams. Thanks again. EDIT: Decided to replace Mew with Celebi since Mew is usually in the Ubers. Celebi @ Leftovers Bold 252hp / 128def / 128 sp def -Substitute -Leech Seed/Recover -Calm Mind -Baton Pass (A Calm Mind passer. Only debate I have is recover or leech seed, though I'm leaning towards leech seed. Can also double as a special wall with the 101 subs.) [color=orange] Looks good, but I'd go with 252 Def, 129 Spd, 129 HP St.Cool wrote: Okay! Feel free to rate this current team, where I could improve, etc etc. Infernape -Calm Mind -Flamethrower -Close Combat -Flare Blitz (Would like a better move here) Really unorganized, but Focus Blast over Close Combat, and Solarbeam over Flare Blitz. Leftovers for Item Garchomp -Crunch -Fire Fang (Different move here) -Earthquake -Dragon Claw I'd say Stone Edge over Fire Fang, and then you have a choice. Either keep Crunch and use choice band, or get Swords Dance and use leftovers or Life Orb. Lucario -Aura Sphere -Close Combat -Dragon Pulse (?) -Sword Dance Again, really unorganized. As a rule of thumb, don't use any attack stat upping moves on a mixed sweeper. Try Blaze Kick or Extremespeed over Swords Dance, and Shadow Ball, Shadow Claw, or Crunch over Close Combat. Lefties for item Porygon -Ice Beam -Thunderbolt -Tri Attack -Sharpen (?) for one, evolve it! Two, Nasty Plot over Sharpen. Three, Lefties for item. Gyarados -Surf -Rain Dance (?) -Dragon Dance (?) -Bite (?) Gyarados has no use with Special Moves. Keep Dragon Dance, and then delete ALL the other moves for Earthquake, Stone Edge and then waterfall/Aqua Tail. Leftovers again For the last spot, Im having trouble thinking of what would best compliment the others and their attacks. Suggestions are obviously wanted. Okay, you have two Special Sweepers, two Physical Sweepers, and a mixed Sweeper. How about a tank/staller? Steelix can do some stalling and PP draining with Steelix@Leftovers Earthquake Stone Edge Protect Toxic Really nice Defense/PP draining. Another option is Swampert @ Leftovers Curse Earthquake Waterfall Stone Edge Though, thats more or less a defensive Gyarados. Maybe consider the Regi's (except Regigas), Suicune, Miltoic, just look around, you'll find something. Thank you. _________________ Last edited by mudkipman on Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:22 pm

Peanut-Lover Site Administrator Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am Posts: 1917 Location: Brooklyn, NY	Team Rose wrote: I'm curious to see how my team stacks up so here it goes. My team is, for the most part, designed to counter ubers, since I despise their use in a serious test of skill (thats just me though). Tyranitar@Hard Stone Lonely---Sand Stream Rock Slide Earthquake Stone Edge Crunch I could probably use a better item, but I ran out of good ones when it was his turn to get one. Also I know I have 2 rock attacks, I want to replace one but I'm not sure with what yet, ofcourse I'm open for sugestions. Aerial Ace/Brick Break > Stone Edge. Leftovers/Choice Band for the item. Honchkrow@Scope Lens Hardy---Super Luck Night Slash Dark Pulse Drill peck Roost He is intended to get alot of critical hits. With the scope lens, super luck(it took 4 eggs to get one with it), and night slash; now I don't know what the exact odds are for getting a critical hit with all these but it does happen way more often than normal. Yes, looks good, except dark pulse. Plus, you can't hit steels or rocks, so put on steel wing to deal with rock types. Garchomp@Lax incense Sassy---Sand Veil Earthquake Dragon Pulse Dig Dragon Rush The Atk > Sp.Atk. Go with Dragon Claw for accuracy. Fire FFang to take out steels. Dragon Dance to power up, and Earthquake for double stab. You can go with Rock Slide (EQ + Rock Slide has 2 resists - claydol and flygon), crunch/shadow claw (brick break + crunch/shadow claw has no resists, from what is see). Lots of options, but go with what i reccomended (Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw, fire fang, EQ). Metagross@Leftovers Gentle---Clear Body Earthquake Zen Headbutt Meteor Mash Psychic Something > Psychic. AerialAce, Brick Break, Agility, or Explosion. Spiritomb@Big Root Timid---Pressure Faint Attack Hypnosis Dream Eater Dark Pulse He's mainly a lead-off guy, just to get a feel of what I'm up against. Why not pressure abuse? Substitute, Spite, Calm Mind (special wall as well), Rest/Shadow Ball/ Shock Wave. Hitmonchan@Shell Bell Sassy---Iron Fist Thunder Punch Fire Punch Ice Punch Sky Uppercut I like his wide variety of attack types, plus iron fist boosts their power (I'm not sure sky uppercut gets the boost but its still a good move). He is much better in the 4th generation. Good. Looks good. Still to be done: chadim Salamence Tyranny Philip PixelTwist __Dark_Knight_ SAIRAM Deoxys65 Artica DarkPhantom02 Viceroy10 PurpleStarFish dragonite raichulover nubby smallstar15 Gal nincompoop Paralysis machamp 2ndchance poke'master frodo88 I might do more later tonight
Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:55 am

gamer guy Pokemon Ranger Joined: Wed May 30, 2007 11:57 am Posts: 863 Location: I'm stuck somewhere... Not quite sure where that is though.	I need some suggestions. I think my team works a little because I beat someone on Wi-Fi my first time using Wi-FI. I don't understand the EV and DV things that well. Will someone explain those too? Well, here it is. Sceptile-Rose Incense Nature-Hardy Ability-Overgrow DynamicPunch Leaf Blade Giga Drain Leafstorm Empoleon-Expert Belt Nature-Jolly Ability-Torrent Hydro Pump Surf Drill Peck Aqua Jet Dragonite-Leftovers Nature-Calm Ability-Inner Focus Dragon Rush Waterfall Fire Punch Roost Staraptor-Leftovers Nature-Quirky Ability-Intimidate Brave Bird Close Combat Fly Aerial Ace Tyranitar-Expert Belt Nature-Timid Ability-Sand Stream Earthquake Thunder Fang Ice Fang Aerial Ace Scizor-Razor Claw Nature-Bashful Ability-Swarm Slash Night Slash X-Scissor Sword Dance _________________ All I know is that I know nothing.
Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:44 am

blazinglucar Dragon Tamer Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:06 pm Posts: 184	Metagross @ Leichi Berry/Life Orb Adamant \| Clear Body 252 Att; 129 Spd; 129 Def Earthquake Meteor Mash Explosion/Zen Headbutt Agility Magmortar @ Choice Specs/Petaya Berry Modest/Timid \| Flame Body 252 SA; 252 Spd; 4 Hp Flamethrower Psychic/Sunny Day Thunderbolt Focus Blast/Solar Beam Steelix @ Shell Bell/Ganlon Berry/Leftovers Impish \| Rock Head 252 Att; 129 Hp; 129 SD Earthquake Stealth Rock Roar Protect/Rest Blissey @ Leftovers Bold @ Natural Cure/Serene Grace 252 Def; 252 Hp; 4 SD Seismic Toss Aromatherapy Softboiled Counter/Calm Mind/Ice Beam Dusknoir @ Leftovers Impish \| Pressure 252 Hp; 129 Def; 129 SD Mean Look Toxic Curse Rest Gorebyss @ Leftovers Bold \| Swift Swim 252 Hp; 129 Def; 129 SD Surf/Aqua Ring/Agility Iron Defence Amnesia Baton Pass _________________
Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:24 am

snobord Graphic Genius Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:44 pm Posts: 251	Porygon-Z@Leftovers Modest/Download 6 Hp, 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd ~Nasty Plot ~Recover ~Psychic ~Signal Beam (Special Sweeper) Garchomp@Leftovers Adamant/Sand Viel 6 Hp, 252 Atk, 252 Spd ~Sword Dance ~Dragon Claw ~Earthquake ~Fire Fang (Physical Sweeper) Lucario@Choice Scarf Nuetral/Steadfast 129 Atk, 129 Sp Atk, 252 Spd ~Aura Sphere ~Earthquake ~Crunch ~Flash Cannon (Mixed Sweeper) Blissey@Leftovers Bold/Natural Cure 129 Sp Atk, 129 Def, 252 Sp Def ~Arometharepy ~Softboiled ~Thunder Wave ~Psychic (Special Wall/Cleric) Cloyster@Leftovers Impish/Shell Armor 252 Hp, 129 Atk, 129 Def ~Rapid Spin ~Spikes ~Avalanche ~Rest (Physical Wall/Spiker/Spinner) Dusknoir@Leftovers Impish/Pressure 252 Hp, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def ~Toxic ~Mean Look ~Rest ~Earthquake (Toxi-Trapper) _________________
Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:21 pm

Ando Psychic Trainer Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 6:21 pm Posts: 52 Location: US	Here goes nothing. Remember, I'm a bit of a Pokemon newb, so if anything looks just utterly stupid, please, let me know. VAPOREON@Damp Rock Modest // Water Absorb 158 Def, 252 Sp. Atk, 100 Sp. Def ~Haze ~Surf ~Rain Dance ~Shadow Ball GLACEON@Heat Rock Timid // Snow Cloak 252 HP, 252 Sp. Atk ~Ice Beam ~Tickle ~Swift ~Sunny Day TYRANITAR@ ? Adamant // Sand Stream 48 HP, 252 Atk, 60 Def, 50 Sp. Def, 100 Spd ~Crunch ~Earthquake ~Rock Slide ~Screech EXEGGUTOR@ ? Timid // Chlorophyll 252 Sp. Atk, 6 Sp. Def, 252 Spd ~Solarbeam ~Psychic ~Sludge Bomb ~Moonlight FLAREON@ ? Jolly // Flash Fire 140 Atk, 130 Def, 70 Sp. Def, 170 Spd ~Fire Fang ~Rock Smash ~Leer ~Facade BLISSEY@Leftovers Calm // Serene Grace 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def ~Aromatherapy ~Softboiled ~Charm ~Thunder _________________ Eighteen wrote: p.s.p.s. <---what kind of pkmn are these wtf !!!!
Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:00 pm

DarkRider23 Bug Catcher Joined: Sun May 06, 2007 1:44 pm Posts: 22	Sorry for adding one more onto the list.=P Just 3... Gengar @ Petaya Berry/Choice Specs Modest \| Levitate 252 Sp. Attack 252 Speed 6 HP -Shadow Ball -Psychic -Thunderbolt(?) -Sludgebomb(?) Should I switch one of the (?) with Substitute and use a Petaya Berry as the held item or should I keep both those moves and keep choice specs? Starmie @ Shell Bell Modest \| Illuminate(Gave up on the other ability) 252 Sp. Attack 252 Speed 6 HP -Rapid Spin -Surf -Thunder Bolt -Ice Beam Lucario @ Choice Band Adamant \| Inner Focus 252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP -Earthquake -Close Combat -Swords Dance -Shadow Claw _________________ Last edited by DarkRider23 on Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:48 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:41 pm

Salamence Bug Catcher Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 5:44 pm Posts: 15	For the raters: MASSIVE team overhaul, will edit previous post, and post new team here: Porygon-Z @Focus Sash Modest \| Download 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP -Shadow Ball -Tri Attack -Thunderbolt -Ice Beam Salamence @ Choice Band Adamant \| Intimidate 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP -Stone Edge -Dragon Claw -Earthquake -Aerial Ace Bronzong @ Lum Berry Relaxed \| Levitate 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def -Toxic -Block -Gyro Ball -Rest Heracross @ Shell Bell Adamant \| Swarm Evs Unk (Already done) -Earthquake -Swords Dance -Megahorn -Close Combat/ Brick Break Milotic @ Leftovers Calm \| Marvel Scale 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def -Toxic -Mirror Coat -Aqua Ring -Surf Gallade @ Scope Lens Jolly \| Steadfast 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP -Leaf Blade -Psycho Cut -Night Slash -Brick Break _________________ Team Progress: 3/6 "I think there is only one quality worse than hardness of heart and that is softness of head." -Theodore Roosevelt
Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:23 pm

AlAlchemist Bug Catcher Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:43 pm Posts: 1 Location: Fresno California, United States	This is my first attempt at making a pokemon team after looking at some move sets please tell me if its ok and if im missing any information. Pokemon Diamond Team Arcanine / Nature: Adamant Item: Salac Berry / Ability: Intimidate Move Set: Agility, Extreme Speed, Endure, Reversal Effort Points: Hit Points: 6, Attack: 252, Speed: 252 Position: Endure Reversal. Blissey / Nature: Bold Item: Leftovers / Ability: Natural Cure Move Set: Sweet Kiss, Ice Beam, Heal Bell, Softboiled Effort Points: Hit Points: 6, Defense: 252, Special Attack: 252 Position: Cleric. Mismagius / Nature: Bold Item: Leftovers / Ability: Levitate Move Set: Mean Look, Perish Song, Confuse Ray, Protect Effort Points: Hit Points: 6, Defense: 252, Special Defense: 252 Position: Perish Trapper. Gallade / Nature: Careful Item: Leftovers / Ability: Steadfast Move Set: Bulk Up, Psycho Cut, Brick Break, Night Slash Effort Points: Hit Points: 46, Defense: 252, Special Defense: 212 Position: Physical Sweeper. Togekiss / Nature: Bold Item: Leftovers / Ability: Serene Grace Move Set: Nasty Plot, Aura Sphere, Air Slash, Roost Effort Points: Defense: 252, Special Attack: 6, Special Defense: 252 Position: Special Sweeper. Umbreon / Nature: Bold Item: Leftovers / Ability: Synchronize Move Set: Mean Look, Toxic, Moonlight, Baton Pass Effort Points: Hit Points: 6, Defense: 252, Special Defense: 252 Position: Tank. _________________ "It will be over before you see their power."
Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:50 pm

Sefrin Dragon Tamer Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 9:49 pm Posts: 180 Location: Forest of Tranquility	Here we go. Torkoal, nature: Serious item: Leftovers, ability: white smoke EVs Def 252, sp def 252, hp 4 Heatwave toxic rest amnesia Your basic toxi-tank torkoal, nothing to different. Dragonite, Nature: modest item: ??, Ability: inner focus EVs sp atk 252, spd 252, hp 4 surf thunderbolt dragon pulse thunderwave special sweeper, he has surf in place of ice beam or flamethrower because I have no water pokemon on this team and a water attack is more important than fire(which torkoal already has) or ice(which is super effective against types I've already got covered by the rest of the team). Miltank, Nature: Careful Item:??, ability: thick fat EVs Hp 252, atk 129, sp def, 129 milk drink heal bell zen headbutt bodyslam A healer and partial tank with some damage capability, the paralysis from body slam is always handy and zen headbutts in it with a chance to make 'em flinch. rhyperior, nature: serious item: wide lens/ scope lens, ability:solid rock EVs atk 252, def 129, hp 129 Rock polish earthquake megahorn/ shadow claw stone edge A physical sweeper and sponge, wide lens is there because both mega horn and stone edge have less than perfect accuaracy, and since stone edges' PP is only 5(still a measly 8 even when maxed out with PP ups) its' vital that the attacks find their mark every time. i'm not sure whether to give him shadow claw and scope lens and try and turn him into a critical hitter or go with the more traditional moveset. Mawile, nature; adamant Item: leftovers, ability: intimidate Iron head crunch stockpile swords dance A physical sweeper and semi-tank with stockpile and leftovers, I knw there are many pokemon better suited to this role but Mawile remains my favourite(if you could'nt tell by my avatar) and as such, I must use him. Breloom, Nature:jolly item: poison orb, Ability: poison heal EVs atk 252, spd 252, hp 4 Spore leech seed focus punch seed bomb Your basic breloom moveset. a drainer combined with a physical sweeper. Also potentially, I was considering this for a replacement for any of the others. Raticate, nature: adamant Item: poison orb, ability: guts EVs atk 252, spd 252, hp4 Swords dance super fang facade crunch While some one like machamp has higher attack power, raticate gains STAB damage from facade. combine this with facades double base damage from poison orb and the 50% attack increase from guts, plus a first turn swords dance, and raticate can deal out a whopping amount of damage before subcumbing to the poison. I was also thinking of trying this same tactic with Swellow Swellow, nature: adamant item:poison orb, ability: guts EVs atk 252, spd 252, hp 4 Facade roost steel wing aerial ace This works better than raticate in that swellow can use roost to regain hp when the poison starts to take its' toll. However, it is worse than raticate in that swellow has no way of further boosting its' attack as raticate can. what do you think?
Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:40 am

Death76 Psychic Trainer Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:03 am Posts: 94	Gangar @ Spell Tag-Makes Ghost moves better (Spooky Pl8 Better?) Ghost Psn Nature Modest +SP Attack -Attack --Shadow Ball --Hypnosis (always first) --Dream Eater --Destiny Bond (Only use if fighting opponests last pokemon) He is an all around Killer with hypnosis and Dream Eater he can take down the the tough ones, Shadow Ball Kills ghost and phsycis Espeon @ Mind Pl8 (Any better suggestions?) Phsyic Nature Relaxed -speed + Def it needs the def --Future Sight (always first ) --Shadow Ball (Looking for powerful Tm) --Bite (once lvl 71 Morning sun) --Phsyic Espeon is what i send out if i think Gangar can't take the pokemon but most of the time the pokemon is asleep before i swich out Torterra Grass Ground Nature Docile +/- on nothing --Earthquake --Razor Leaf --Frenzy Plany --Synthesis This guy is a slow and powerful island. Can one hit Fire types and Water only problem are ice moves take this guy down like nothing Nine Tails @ Shell Bell, Leftovers,Focus Band (Can't Decide) Fire Nature Hasty + speed - Def --Hypnosis (Always first) --Flame Thower --Sunny Day( Always second) --Solar Beam This One has alot of power and the ablity to support because of Sunny Day that move will aid Moringing Sun and Sythesis, Might hurt Lanturn but he can manage Lanturn (This one is not it's self yet. did that make any sense?) Water Electric Nature Still looking for right one =( --Thunder wave (Always first) --Confuse Ray (Always second) --Thunder --Hydro Pump This guy is mostly for support, but he can easily take on other pokemon on his own Any ideas on what could be the sixth pokemon Where can i get some of the better items, Uhh BP not a big fan of that
Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:17 pm

ger911 Pokemon Trainer Joined: Sun May 27, 2007 5:24 pm Posts: 46	vaperon@splash plate lv 61 docile attack 109 speed 110 hp 249 hydro pump bite aurora beam aqua ring lucario@fist plate lv 61 serious attack 169 speed 148 hp 171 strenght force palm flash cannon aura sphere torterra@rose incenselv 61 brave attack 180 speed 98 hp 198 earthquake crunch giga drain leaf storm charizard@flame plate lv62 bold attack 122 speed 158 hp 182 dragon rage fly blast burn flamethorwer mew@none lv 62 brave attack 155 speed 140 hp 201 surf psychic metronome transform staraptor@shell bell lv 62 roost brave bird aerial ace fly (pm with comments plz ty) _________________ Name-Gerard Friend Code-3995-6143-5118 Time on-4.30-10.oo eastern time Team-Electrive,Magmortar,Milotic,Torterra,Staraptor and many others
Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:10 am

mead1ey Psychic Trainer Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:37 pm Posts: 86	My team Blissey Nature:Bold Ev 252HP 252 Defense 4 Sdef Trait:Natural Cure Leftovers Moves Stealth Rock Thunderwave Sesmic Toss Soft Boiled Garchomp Nature Adamant Earthquake Dragon Claw Swords Dance Substitute Item Attached: Life Orb Trait: Sand Veil EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Skarmory @ Leftovers Trait: Keen Eye EVs: 252 HP / 64 Atk / 192 Def Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Drill Peck \| Hidden Power [Flying] - Roar \| Whirlwind - Taunt - Spikes
Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:22 am

Gnaaye Pokemon Ranger Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:22 am Posts: 815	Quote: Blissey Nature:Bold Modest. Ev 252HP 252 Defense 4 Sdef 252 defence evs? Are you sure you HAVE a brain? Full EVs @ HP and SDefense, rest at special. Trait:Natural Cure Leftovers Moves Stealth Rock Thunderwave Sesmic Toss Soft Boiled CMind, Arometherapy, Counter, Flamethrower is the one Gnaaye uses. Garchomp Nature Adamant Earthquake Dragon Claw Swords Dance Substitute Item Attached: Life Orb Trait: Sand Veil EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Good. Nothing to say. Skarmory @ Leftovers Trait: Keen Eye EVs: 252 HP / 64 Atk / 192 Def Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Drill Peck \| Hidden Power [Flying] - Roar \| Whirlwind - Taunt - Spikes AAce, Taunt, Spikes, Roar. is what I use. God. Darn it.
Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:32 pm

JPB GameCrazy Psychic Trainer Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:57 pm Posts: 60	Gyarados, Male, Intimidate Adamant Dragon Dance Aqua Tail Ice Fang {Insert Physical Move Other Than EQ Here} Camerupt, Female, Solid Rock please suggest: Earthquake Explosion Rock Slide Flamethrower {Please replace: Scyther, Female, Tecnitian Adamant X-Scissors Arial Ace Night Slash Swords Dance Tropius, Male, Clorophyll Modest Solar Beam Air Slash Sunny Day Synthesis Metagross, -, Clear Body Serious EarthQuake Meteor Mash Zen Headbutt {If attack, physical please} Drifblim, Female, Unburden Please Suggest: Stockpile Spit Up Swallow Please suggest: Basically, the classic flying/ground combo. his is obviously for double battles, and hasn't much antics. _________________
Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:09 pm

Peanut-Lover Site Administrator Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am Posts: 1917 Location: Brooklyn, NY	Updated list of outstanding requests: <s>chadim</s> <s>Salamence</s> <s>Tyranny</s> <s>Philip</s> PixelTwist __Dark_Knight_ SAIRAM Deoxys65 Artica DarkPhantom02 Viceroy10 PurpleStarFish <s>dragonite</s> (IRC chating) raichulover nubby smallstar15 Gal nincompoop Paralysis machamp 2ndchance poke'master frodo88 Gamer Guy blazingculcar <s>snobord</s> chadim wrote: Gengar @ Black Sludge Timid \| 252 Spd / 252 SpAtk / 4 HP - Shadow Ball - Sludge Bomb - Energy Ball - Hypnosis Sorry, T-bolt > hypnosis. @Choice Specs Shiny Ampharos @ ? Modest (Can't Change) \| 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP - Thunder Wave - Thunderbolt - Power Gem - Signal Beam Modest is fine. As is the moveset. The EVs aren't good though - a bit out of speed and more into defenses so it can take a hit. Blissey @ Leftovers Bold \| 252 Def / 212 HP / 44 SpAtk - Aromatherapy - Seismic Toss - Ice Beam - Softboiled T-wave > Ice beam for constant status support. Torterra @ Leftovers Impish \| I need help on the EV's - Curse - Seed Bomb - Crunch - Earthquake Good. Though, Adamant > Impish. Lots of attack and def, a bit in sp.def. a whole bunch in HP. None in Speed or Special attack. Rhyperior @ Leftovers Adamant \| Also need help on EV's Trait: Hard Rock - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Megahorn / Sandstorm - Swords Dance Rock Slide/Rock Blast > Stone Edge. Megahorn, not sandstorm. 252 Attack, 256 split among defenses and hp. No speed. Dragonite @ Leftovers Brave \| 252 Atk / Don't Know Rest - Substitute - Focus Punch - Dragon Claw - Fire Punch Go with Flamethrower > fire punch to take down the walls in skarmory and forretress, and other high defense steels. EVs - about 48 in special attack, the rest in HP and defenses. Don't waste the speed- the lower speed may help with the sub. More defenses help keep the sub alive even longer.. Thanks in advance Salamence wrote: For the raters: MASSIVE team overhaul, will edit previous post, and post new team here: Good thing I didn't rate the old one. Porygon-Z @Focus Sash Modest \| Download 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP -Shadow Ball -Tri Attack -Thunderbolt -Ice Beam Calm mind + recover > tri-attack and shadow ball or T-bolt + ice beam. So, its one combo. if you keep t-bolt and ice beam, you have few resistances, but you may not inflict that much status. With shadow ball and tri-attack, you will have status, but uncontrolled and you will have more type problems against rocks and steels. Salamence @ Choice Band Adamant \| Intimidate 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP -Stone Edge -Dragon Claw -Earthquake -Aerial Ace I would have like rock slide > stone edge, but this is fine. Bronzong @ Lum Berry Relaxed \| Levitate 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def -Toxic -Block -Gyro Ball -Rest @Leftovers. Rest will cure status. Letovers will heal hp while sleeping. Heracross @ Shell Bell Adamant \| Swarm Evs Unk (Already done) -Earthquake -Swords Dance -Megahorn -Close Combat/ Brick Break Go with brick break or rock slide in the last spot. Milotic @ Leftovers Calm \| Marvel Scale 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def -Toxic -Mirror Coat -Aqua Ring -Surf No need for two toxic users - they could interfere. Go with hypnosis > toxic, and ice beam > Mirror coat. Gallade @ Scope Lens Jolly \| Steadfast 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP -Leaf Blade -Psycho Cut -Night Slash -Brick Break Looks good. Still to be done: Tyranny Philip PixelTwist __Dark_Knight_ SAIRAM Deoxys65 Artica DarkPhantom02 Viceroy10 PurpleStarFish dragonite raichulover nubby smallstar15 Gal nincompoop Paralysis machamp 2ndchance poke'master frodo88 Gamer Guy blazingculcar snobord ando darkrider23 AlAlchemist Sefrin death76 Ger911 JPB GameCrazy I might do more later tonight Last edited by Peanut-Lover on Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:35 pm

mead1ey Psychic Trainer Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:37 pm Posts: 86	Blissey Lol Modest Its a tank it takes hits its not a special sweeper and whats the point of modest it has max def and if it takes a hit from a special it can recover with softboiled and it has natural cure so there's no point of aromatherapy calm mind or counter since sesmic toss is better. it's the same blissey marriland on youtube uses. ps would it be nescessary to have perfect iv's on skarmory atk or spd or perfect iv at all
Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:56 am

Mecha Deoxys Dragon Tamer Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:51 pm Posts: 123 Location: In a lake of LCL.	Ok I have some Metagross ??? zen headbutt earthquake meteor mash hammer arm salamence ??? dragon claw steel wing zen headbutt crunch porygon-z quirky nasty plot icebeam thunderbolt tri attack suicune rash extrasensory icebeam hydro pump calm mind gallade ??? close combat leafblade psychocut X-scissor Blaziken naive brave bird Flareblitz slash sky uppercut roserade modest solarbeam weatherball sunny day sludge bomb tyranatar ?? stone edge earthquake crunch ??? Ryperior naughty poison jab earthquake stone edge mega horn latios bashful dragon pulse psychic thunderbolt icebeam. I need sugestions and comments and what to make teams of three out of.
Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:11 am

Gnaaye Pokemon Ranger Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:22 am Posts: 815	Meadley, can you use good grammar please? I have MAJOR exams, and needa rate ALL the teams. My eyes hurt, for God's sake. Quote: Lol Modest Its a tank it takes hits its not a special sweeper and whats the point of modest it has max def and if it takes a hit from a special it can recover with softboiled and it has natural cure so there's no point of aromatherapy calm mind or counter since sesmic toss is better. We have this ( . ) thing called a point which is used to seperate sentences. It is useful if you are a forum member and don't want to get yelled at. snobord wrote: Porygon-Z@Leftovers Modest/Download 6 Hp, 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd ~Nasty Plot ~Recover ~Psychic ~Signal Beam (Special Sweeper) Go with boltbeam instead of Psychic and Signal Beam. Garchomp@Leftovers Adamant/Sand Viel 6 Hp, 252 Atk, 252 Spd ~Sword Dance ~Dragon Claw ~Earthquake ~Fire Fang (Physical Sweeper) Kewl. No changes. Lucario@Choice Scarf Nuetral/Steadfast 129 Atk, 129 Sp Atk, 252 Spd ~Aura Sphere ~Earthquake ~Crunch ~Flash Cannon (Mixed Sweeper) Try CBer. Crunch, EQ, Sky Uppercut, Bullet Punch. Blissey@Leftovers Bold/Natural Cure 129 Sp Atk, 129 Def, 252 Sp Def ~Arometharepy ~Softboiled ~Thunder Wave ~Psychic (Special Wall/Cleric) Aromatherapy, Flamethrower, CMind, Softboiled. NO DEFENSE EVS. MODEST. FULL HP AND SP EVS, the rest at SA. Cloyster@Leftovers Impish/Shell Armor 252 Hp, 129 Atk, 129 Def ~Rapid Spin ~Spikes ~Avalanche ~Rest (Physical Wall/Spiker/Spinner) Just copying from the Psypokes' 4thGen guide: Cloyster @ Leftovers Calm/Bold \| Shell Armor 252 Sp Def, 252/129 HP, 6/129 Sp Atk ~Explosion ~Spikes ~Ice Beam/Surf ~Ice Beam/Surf/Rapid Spin Spiker and possible Spinner. ** Dusknoir@Leftovers Impish/Pressure 252 Hp, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def ~Toxic ~Mean Look ~Rest ~Earthquake (Toxi-Trapper) Again: Dusknoir @ Leftovers Impish \| Pressure 252 HP, 129 Atk, 129 Sp Def ~Shadow Punch ~Earthquake/Ice Punch ~Will-O-Wisp ~Pain Split/Rest Tank. ***
Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:37 am

AABM Pokemon Ranger Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:12 am Posts: 510 Location: Where you MOST expect it.	Mecha Deoxys wrote: Ok I have some Metagross ??? zen headbutt earthquake meteor mash hammer arm Quick Claw/Choise Band as Item, Adamant as Neture and there you go. salamence ??? dragon claw steel wing zen headbutt crunch NO STEEL WING, [Element] Fang > Steel wing, Shell bell as item, go with EQ/Brick Break instead of Zen Headbutt if you can. porygon-z quirky nasty plot icebeam thunderbolt tri attack Good, save for it´s nature, I would have gone with Modest instead. suicune rash extrasensory icebeam hydro pump calm mind A legendary? oh well. Surf > Hydro Pump, the rest is okay. gallade ??? close combat leafblade psychocut X-scissor Night Slash > X-scissor, go with Hypnosis-Focus Punch combo instead of Leaf Blade and Close Combat, Psychocut is okay if you don´t have Destiny Bond. Blaziken naive brave bird Flareblitz slash sky uppercut Focus Energy/Bulk Up/Sand-Attack/Attract/Captivate/Aerial Ace > Slash, the rest is okay. If you got time, go with an Adamant one. roserade modest solarbeam weatherball sunny day sludge bomb Looks Good. tyranatar ?? stone edge earthquake crunch ??? Dragon Dance/Focus Energy/Thunder Wave/Attract/Scary Face in ???´s place. Ryperior naughty poison jab earthquake stone edge mega horn NO POISON JAB! [Element] Fang/Crunch/Counter/Sandstorm/Attract > Poison Jab. latios bashful dragon pulse psychic thunderbolt icebeam. Good, but Modest would fit perfectly I need sugestions and comments and what to make teams of three out of. If I were you, I´d discard the idea of having any Legendary, I would go with Salamence, Metagross, Gallade, Porygon-Z (Preferably with Trick Room via Rememberer), Rhyperior (he and Metagross get the upper hand in Trick Room) and Roserade/Blaziken. _________________ *AABM's* *"Team Seekers"* "I'm perhaps the least typical Ledian user you'll ever get to see in the whole OU" - AABM. · Say, Orange looks better than gray, doesn't it?
Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:03 pm

Peanut-Lover Site Administrator Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am Posts: 1917 Location: Brooklyn, NY	Keyboard froze last night. Sorry I might make a grammer thread just so we can function better. Remember, not all of us are Americans. There are those that take english as an alternative language. Raters - I have said this before - please use brighter fonts. Yellow Cyan Orange BOLD italics As opposed to Reds browns, and greys. Tyranny wrote: These are just some guys I want rated, and 2 new guys I'm thinking about training. @Choice Band Rock Head-Lvl 100 [Relaxed], [252ATT,252DEF,1HP,3SPD] DVs, I got 0 Sp. ATK. Whooot. Earthquake Avalanche/Iron Tail/Brick Break Double-Edge Aerial Ace I swap Move #2 around a lot, This guy has 495 Def, 314 ATT, and I love him. make that 4HP EVs. Rock Slide > Aerial Ace. Iron head in the second spot. {flygon) @Shell Bell [Levitate]-lvl 82 -.- [Rash], [Trained in-game, have no clue] Got no clue as to DV's. Dragon Claw Crunch Fire Blast Earthquake Meh, he's not the best, Fire blast for steels. Looks good actually. If you give it the ev decreasing berries, you could retrain. Sceptile @Big Root. [Overgrow] [Naive], [Another in-game] Again, no clue. Giga Drain Energy Ball Focus Blast Dragon Pulse He can hit fast and hard. Trust me, best as a sub-seeder. Fast substitute, excellent draining. Substitute, Leech Seed, energy ball/leef blade, HP Ice/X-scissor. If you get hp ice, go with the special side. otherwise, x-scissor and leef blade. X-scissor and hp ice have the same purpose - take out grasses which are immune to leech seed. --Possible Additions--- [Bastiodon] @ [Apicot Berry]. [Sturdy] [Careful], [250DEF,250SP.DEF,10HP] Hopefully between 25 and 30 in defenses. [Rest] [Iron Defense] [Endure] [Fissure] 2 rock/steels? No. Please don't. [Dusknoir] @ [Leftovers]. [Pressure] [Careful], [220DEF, 220SP.DEF, 70HP] [Toxic] [Mean Look] [Substitute] [Focus Punch] Mean Look/Curse, Toxic/W-o-W, Shadow Punch, Focus Punch. Trap and toxify, or let them switch and you get a free hit. Anyway, post suggestions please! Philip wrote: Notes: 1. I am using this team for in-game, for the BATTLE TOWER, not only aim at beating the Tower Tycoon, but getting a 100 win streak in order to get a new star. i still haven't start my game and so the following is just my proposed team. 2. Also, I think i am lazy to deliberately EV train my Pokemon. 3. I assume i dun hv any BPs to buy those luxury items and useful TMs, like CB, TM7x Stone edge. (but u can still suggest me to use those items and TMs) 4. Can you also please suggest which one to put at First? 5. Those mystic water and etc. now boost 20%, not 10%, so i think they are usable 20% is still not enough, especially when it only benefits one move Gyarados @ Mystic Water Intimidate \| A "not bad" nature A "not bad" EV spread (at least 0 in SA) - Dragon Dance - Waterfall - Earthquake - Avalanche @Liechi berry . or @Leftovers. Ice fang > Avalanche - you won't survive, may as well go with the flinch. Speaking of flinch, better go with a kings rock. Best defense is a good offense for him. Lead with him as he has intimaidate, and can't really be brought in at other times. Infernape @ Blackbelt Blaze \| a "not bad" nature A Balanced EV spread - Overheat - Flare Blitz - Close Combat - Calm Mind / Swords Dance if i hv enough money Flamethrower, Rock Slide, EQ, Sky Uppercut. Blissey @ Leftovers which ability should i choose? \| a "not bad" nature slightly more EV in def and 0 in Atk - Softboiled - Thunderbolt - Ice Beam - Grass Knot Calm Mind > Grass Knot PixelTwist wrote: Well, here's my team. I don't know which 'category' (OU, UU, NU) each of them fall under, but if you could tell me that would be great (that way I know which ones I'd need to change out if I fight someone who wants to go UU only). Mr. Mime @ (not sure) Timid \| Soundproof 252 HP, 252 Sp. Atk, 6 Spd -Psychic -Calm Mind -Barrier -Baton Pass Every team I have has to have a Mr. Mime, as it's my favorite pokémon. Obviously, he's a Baton Passer, but has Psychic incase he's on his own for some reason. Picked Soundproof over Filter because if I need to, I can always Baton Pass should a Bug, Ghost or Dark pokémon show up. Looks good. More 128 speed, 128 Sp.Atk. @Leftovers. Ludicolo @ Big Root Modest \| Swift Swim 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp. Def -Giga Drain -Leech Seed -Toxic -Rain Dance Just a normal drainer. With this new Big Root item, I can probably get more of a boost using Giga Drain instead of relying on Leftovers to get a boost. Same with Swift Swim over Rain Dish. Rain dish ability. mega drain > giga drain, for pp. Magnezone @ (not sure) Timid \| Sturdy 252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp. Def -Thunder -Flash Cannon -Magnet Rise -Explosion Thunder can be exchanged for Thunderbolt, but my intention is to switch to Magnezone while it's still raining. With Magnet Rise, we get rid of his Ground weakness. Just a Special Sweeper. Trust me, you won't. T-bolt > thunder. @Leftovers. Linoone @ Salac Berry Jolly \| Gluttony 6 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd -Belly Drum -Substitute -Extremespeed/Return -Surf The plan is to Substitute, then Belly Drum, that should kick in the Salac Berry if not already from Gluttony, then sweep. I have found that Linoone can have both Extremespeed and Gluttony, as I've got one on my team right now (he actually has 6 HP, 126 Atk, 126 Def, 252 Spd because his IVs are bad since I got him in a trade). Not surf - shadow ball instead. Honchkrow @ (not sure) Jolly \| Super Luck/Insomnia 6 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd -Drill Peck -Thunder Wave -Attract/Taunt -Night Slash/Sucker Punch I've got two ideas here. Super Luck/Attract/Night Slash, for the increased critical hits, or Insomnia/Taunt/Sucker Punch, for the higher base attack, but requiring a set up to make sure it works. Just a physical sweeper. Not sucker punch, roost in the third slot though. Drifblim @ (not sure)/Some Berry Modest \| Aftermath/Unburden 252 Def, 129 Sp. Def, 129 Spd -Shadow Ball -Silver Wind -Gust -Substitute I want to use a Drifblim because I like them so much, but their movepool isn't great. It's between Drifblim and Mismagius. Go with stockpile, shadow ball, charge beam and baton pass. It makes an excellent passer. Okay, that's all. :3 Still to be done: __Dark_Knight_ SAIRAM Deoxys65 Artica DarkPhantom02 Viceroy10 PurpleStarFish raichulover nubby smallstar15 Gal nincompoop Paralysis machamp 2ndchance poke'master frodo88 Gamer Guy blazingculcar ando darkrider23 AlAlchemist Sefrin death76 Ger911 JPB GameCrazy I might do more later tonight
Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:59 pm

FireStarter it's like a baguette Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:23 pm Posts: 525 Location: OKC	From this point on, all teams/movesets must include the following in order to get rated Pokemon's name (Its Trait if that Pokemon has more than one) Its Held Item Its Nature Its EVs (at the very least, a general range) Its Moveset I will delete all future teams that do not have all of these.
Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:01 pm

Gnaaye Pokemon Ranger Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:22 am Posts: 815	_Dark_Knight_ wrote: This is my team, i think its good but i dont know...thanks anyways Garchomp@Leftovers Sand Veil Jolly EVs 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd. -Earthquake -Crunch -Dragon Rush -Dragon Claw Swords Dance > Dragon Rush. Luxray@King's Rock Intimidate Adamant EVs 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd. -Discharge -Roar -Toxic -Double Team King's Rock is not THAT good. Change it with Lefties. You need attacking moves soo.. Thunder and Ice Fang over Discharge and DT. Bronzong@Leftovers Levitate Sassy EVs 6 HP / 252 Sp.Def / 252 Sp. Atk -Psychic -Gyro Ball -Calm Mind -Double Team Bronzong is a GODLY tank. Change the nature to Relaxed, and give it 252 HP EVs. Share the rest between Def and SD. Drop Psychic and Double Team for Rest and Iron Defense. Chesto please. Blissey@Leftovers Serene Grace Bold EVs 82 HP / 252 Def / 176 Sp. Atk -Softboiled -Calm Mind -Thunderbolt -Ice Beam Change the EV spread. Full SD and HP, the rest @ SA. Gallade@Scope Lens Steadfast Jolly EVs 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd -Leaf Blade -Psycho Cut -Night Slash -Swords Dance EQ > Swords Dance. Attach CB. Lucario@Quick Claw Inner Focus Modest EVs 6 HP / 252 Sp. Atk / 252 Spd -Aura Sphere -Dragon Pulse -Drain Punch -Psychic @ Specs. Drop Shadow Ball for Bullet Punch.
Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:33 am

Colonel Cool Bug Catcher Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:04 am Posts: 9	Gosh, that's a long waiting list. You guys are awesome for doing this and everything... I'm kinda new to psypoke, but I had an idea for a double battle pair and was hoping to get someone's opinion on it... Here goes... Breloom Poison Heal @ ? Jolly 252 atack, 252 speed, 6 hp Spore Focus Punch Seed Bomb Facade Umbreon Synchronize @ ? Probably 252 hp, 129 defense and special defense though I'm not too sure Toxic Moonlight Dark Pulse Confuse Ray/Helping Hand/Open to suggestion really I'm kinda a terrible trainer... Any advice is greatly appreciated. THANK YOU! Now I shall proceed to make slinkies walk down stairs while I wait for a reply.
Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:57 am

Gnaaye Pokemon Ranger Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:22 am Posts: 815	Colonel Cool wrote: Gosh, that's a long waiting list. You guys are awesome for doing this and everything... I'm kinda new to psypoke, but I had an idea for a double battle pair and was hoping to get someone's opinion on it... Here goes... Breloom Poison Heal @ <s>?</s> Toxic Orb Jolly 252 atack, 252 speed, 6 hp Spore Focus Punch Seed Bomb Facade Swords Dance > Facade. Stat-raising moves on non-ubers rock. Umbreon Synchronize @ <s>?</s> Chesto Probably 252 hp, 129 defense and special defense though I'm not too sure Thats fine. Toxic Moonlight Dark Pulse Confuse Ray/Helping Hand/Open to suggestion really Mean Look > Dark Pulse. Toxi-trapper. Rest should be in the last slot. I'm kinda a terrible trainer... Any advice is greatly appreciated. THANK YOU! Now I shall proceed to make slinkies walk down stairs while I wait for a reply. frodo88 wrote: Skarmory@leftovers Ability: Keen Eye Nature: Impish -spikes -drill peck -roost -whirlwind Spikes, Roar, Roost, AAce. Salamence@choice specs Ability: Intimidate Nature: Modest -flamethrower -hydro pump -draco meteor -dragon pulse NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU You are wasting Salamence. Get another one with Adamant nature, @Lefties and give it DD, Fire Fang, Dragon Claw and EQ. Believe me, Elemence simply fails. Milotic@leftovers Ability: Marvel Scale Nature:modest -ice beam -surf -rest or recover -sleep talk or hypnosis If you can, Suicune > this. And great nature you got there. Go with Sleeptalking on this. Metagross@choice band Ability:Clear Body Nature: Adamant -meteor mash -earthquake -ice punch -thunderpunch OMG ADAMANT METAGROSS FTW. Though yo' may consider Zen Headbutt instead of EQ. Umbreon@leftovers Ability: Synchronize Nature: Bold -toxic -mean look -baton pass -wish Brilliant. This guy pwnz. Now comes the last pokemon, which I have not decided on. Garchomp@leftovers Ability: Sand Veil Nature: Adamant -dragon claw -earthquake -dragon dance -fire fang or stone edge or Dragonite@leftovers Ability:Inner Focus Nature: Adamant -dragon dance -earthquake -dragon claw or thunderbolt -aerial ace or Tyranitar@leftovers Ability:Sand Stream Nature: Adamant -earthquake -dragon dance -taunt -crunch or stone edge Try DDTar: DDance, Crunch, Taunt, DClaw. Last edited by Gnaaye on Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
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