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Well here are some theories I've been reading up on, I'd like to know what people think:


1) The Snape's still good theory:
Evidence:
- Snape was yelling advice to Harry as he fled from Hogwarts
- Snape may not have known what Draco's mission was when he made the unbreakable vow
- Dumbledore pleaded with Snape which is very unlike him. This leads on to the fact that Dumbledore may have orded Snape to kill him
- Dumbledore may have been already dying from the potion, as Snape was good at Legilmens and may have been able to tell
- Dumbledore and Snape could have an unbreakable vow to protect Harry, if so, that would explain why Dumbledore trusts Snape, and that is why he had to kill him
- Dumbledore may have orderd Snape to kill him, and thats what the argument Hagrid overheard was about


2) The Harry is a Horcrux theory:
- It would explain the scar
- It would mean Harry would have to die in order to kill Voldemort, thus making the prophecy correct
- It would explain why Harry is a Parelsmouth
- It would explain why Harry could see into Voldemort's thoughts and Nagini's
- Harry was able to dark magic with the sectusempra spell
- One of the Horcruxs was meant to belong to a Gryffindor...
- Harry's scar could be the Horcrux


3) Missing Horcrux's
- Firstly, a lot are speculating that R.A.B is Regulus Black
- Some say the locket which is missing was in Grimmauld Place
- When they were cleaning out the house, they found a locket which they could not open
- It would explain the R.A.B if Regulus Black took it to Grimmauld Place
- JKR wrote a scene into the book of Mundugus Fletcher sellin things from Grimmauld place...it is unlickely that this is of no significance, if it is significant, the Horcrux could have been sold


4) Draco's part
- Draco may bring the Death Eaters down, he was mistreated by them in the 6th, and was seen crying etc
- He will probably be punished for not being able to complete Voldemort's request to kill Dumbledore


5) Dumbledore lingers
- Dumbledore's portrait in his study
- He may have left a note at Privet drive, as he has directed Harry to go there


6) The potion in the cave/Dumbledore's not dead!
- R.A.B would have needed help to get this Horcurx just like Dumbledore did
- It could have been Snape, Dumbledore or Lupin who helped him
- If it was Snape, the potion Dumbledore drunk could have had powers preventing the curse which killed him
- Dumbledore may be an Animagus, and may be of the form of a Phoenix, and that is how he went from the tower to the grounds below
- A Phoenix was seen in the smoke from Dumbledore's funeral
- The Phoenix's lament may have been Dumbledore



Well I personally only like the first three and highly doubt that Dumbledore is still alive. Any other theories?

These ideas are pretty deep. Although it is unlikely Dumbledore is alive, but I agree with the Scar is a horcrux theory. Wouldn't he have to kill himself to make Voldemort mortal then?

I'm not gonna moderate this thread, because I haven't read the book. I've skipped the above posts as well

IMO,i doubt snape's still good,or dumbledore being alive...but i do think your right about the horcrux being at grimmauld place...why couldnt snape die?i wish he would :roll:

Well its kinda obvious that Dumbledore is stilll lingering, unless his portait is sleeping forever... I totally believe in Harry being one of the hocruxes.

But here's a therory...

That one of the things that is a Hocrux is in Hogwarts.
-Malfoy could have got it in using that cabnet
-It also is one of the last places Harry would look
-It would probably be one of the things that belong to Revenclaw or Gryffindor

I'm not to sure about it but it's possible

Well Harry has to somehow be drawn back to Howarts. I think Dumbledore would have left him something to direct him back there. This idea about the Horcrux being at Hogwarts could be a good way to get him back there.

There has been speculation that it is either Gyriffindor's Sword or the sorting hat which both belonged to Godric and these would bring him back to Hogwarts too.

I have read the book the first day it came out. I believe in the Dumbledore is alive theory. Because in the end, it said the prophecy again. As Harry thought he had to kill himself, he had a vision of half moon spectacles on Dumbledore's desk. And of courseHaryy has visons of what Voldemort hears,sees, or does. So Dumbledore's glasses could of fellen off him when he Maggied. But then again, the ministry noted Phoenixes "dangerous." So they couldn't let a Maggi with a human brain with such powers loose around! SO I don't know, but my evidence points more to the alive part.

the harry is a horcrux thing has already happened though right? voldemort was revived with harrys blood in book 4.
which is why snape is helping harry because (advice) his master would die aswell so voldemort wants another horcrux revived before he kills harry and in the process because remember he is the only one who knows about the horcuxs (besides harry ron hermione) his death eaters may know how to activate them but only he knows where they are hidden


PS: dumbledore is dead as a doorknob

That's pretty dead.

No one's said anything about all of the relationships in this yet. There are so many things that happen, and yet there is almost no fixed plot, if you know what i mean. I'm not critising it, it's amazing, it's so great the way it flows.

So, Harry and Ginny get together, eh? I was dying of laughter when i read that. Oh, wait, i have to put this down:

HARRY: Yes
SNAPE: Yes, sir
HARRY: There's no need to call me sir, Professor

Is that, or is that not the BEST HARRY POTTER QUOTE EVER
I borrowed the book off my friend, and to stop my sisters nagging while i read it, i switched the dust covers of the Half-Blood Prince and the Order of the Phoenix, so it looked like i was reading the Order of the Phoenix. And i read that quote, and i just went "That is the best line EVER!!" and my sisters looked at me weird, coz i've read the Order of the Phoenix like five times. Hehe

I reckon one of the Horcruxes will be a key that belonged to Ravenclaw. I don't know why, i was just thinking about the four House people, how there was a goblet for Hufflepuff, which is kinda dopey if you ask me, a locket for Slytherin, which could be concealing anything and seems cunning, a sword for Griffindor, nice and brave, and i was thinking how they were all objects made of metal, and then i just thought ... a key!

What do you think?

maybe Flareon and was it just me but I was really sad when Harry said no to ginny because of Voldemort curse you Voldemort curse you

Hmm? No offense, but you could work on your grammer a bit. Do you mean when Harry broke up with Ginny to keep her safe?

My friend reckons that Ginny will keep loving Harry and they'll get back together at the end of the 7th book, if Harry doesn't die

Heh just for a laugh: http://books.guardian.co.uk/potter/page ... 82,00.html

Finally, I've completed the book, and I join you guys on the discussion about the book, and what's gonna happen in Book 7

I do believe that Dumbledore is dead. However, I think he's dead but not gone. Meaning he might be able to commune with Harry thorugh the portrait, or something like that. I don't think Harry is the Horcrux though. The prophecy kinda indicates that one of them would die while the other survives, and if Harry died to kill Voldemort, that wouldn't really count, does it?

Yes I thought about the Gryffindor's sword and the Sorting Hat but I thought about how could Voldemort have gotten to them? Maybe the sorting hat while he was in school but what about the sword? did he break into hogwarts after he was reborn??

And there could be other things to get Harry back to hogwarts, maybe Voldemort sent death eaters to there and Harry went to save the students from them, or it could be Ginny going back to school and he needs to save her... There's too many ways to get him there...

Voldemort couldn't possibly have gotten to Griffindor's sword, it was in the Hat, remember?

After the second book, the sword wasn't in the hat anymore, but it was placed in Dumbledore's office, wasn't it?

Yeah, that's right. But didn't Voldemort make the Horcruxes - oh, wait a minute! He made the Horcruxes the 2nd time - hang on... I'm really confused.

Did Voldemort make the Horcruxes the 1st time he was all-powerful, or the 2nd time, after he came back? Coz if he made them the 1st time then the sword couldn't be one, but if it was the 2nd time...

I read this, which I believe has some good stuff...though ya'll have mentioned most of it.

In my own opinion, Snape and Draco are good guy, Dumbledore is really dead, Harry is indeed a horcrux, and the locket has been sold...so the location is still uncertain.

The only thing I still can't accept is Sirius' death. There's still a chance he survived. Why else would he give Harry the mirror? I dunno, just voicing my wishful thinking. -mourns Sirius-

I loved the Half-Blood Prince because it was so very intelligently and cleverly written as a timeless classic in the HP series!

and that has what do with the convesation?

The Sword is NOT a Horcrux, Confused Flareon. If you had remembered correctly, or if you've read the Chapter "Horcruxes" in Book VI, you would have known that Gryffindor's Ruby encrusted Sword is safely in Dumbledore's office.

And the Horcruxes were made when Voldemort was powerful in the past. The second time he came back as the seventh Horcrux. Which leaves six more Horcruxes, or four, if you exclude the destroyed ring that belonged to Marvolo as well as Riddle's Diary.

Yes, thankyou, I realized that when i re-read the book. I still reckon that the other founder's item will be made of some sort of metal, just like the other three.

Hmm... what could Ravenclaw have had that could be a Horcrux... ummm... maybe a key? ... something clever ... a ... a bracelet? .... a silver ornament of an eagle? I dunno. Help me out with some other ideas guys! What do you think?

I honestly don't know. A key perhaps, but maybe there isn't even a Horcruz belonging to Ravenclaw in the first place. It's just guesswork from Dumbledore.

Anyway, I kinda think that Dumbledore is indeed a Phoenix. In the book, didn't Harry though he had seen a Phoenix rise from the tomb, when it burst in flames? And when Pheonixs burst into flames, they get reborn, don't they? That could perhaps have been Dumbledore. In addition, isn't the Order of the Phoenix created by Dumbledore or something? So that could be another clue.

The way Dumbledore died is also a little curious. In the past, victims of the Avada Kedavra just collapsed in a heap. Cedric Diggory, for instance. I've forgotten the other example(s). However, Dumbledore actually flew some distance when he was hit with the Avada Kedavra. Could it be that it didn't kill him?

Damm, I cried...Anyway, here's what I think.

1. Okay, so I was wrong. And I was the only supporter of my own theory. I knew someone important was going to die in the 6th book, and I was absolutely sure JK wouldn't just finish with Sirius that way. So I thought Sirius would be back and die again...Funny...

2. I love Snape. Snape can't be a bad guy. Amphy made good points. I agree with all of then, and I add another one: I think Snape cursed Dumbledore with a fake Avada Kedavra spell, so that Voldemort would think Malfoy accomplished his mission and he would be safe.

3. I know you must kill someone to tear your soul apart. But I almost believe that Fawkes is actually Dumbledore's Horcrux.

4. I don't think Harry himself is the last Voldemort's Horcrux, but I support the theory that they're going to kill themselves in the 7th book.

5. Firstly I thought about Voldemort, but there were already too many amazing events involving him. So, the only person who could be the Half-Blood Prince was Snape, because of these: he was a great potion maker and fancied the dark arts a lot (Sectusempra), and although he dispised Mudbloods, we didn't know who his parents were, so we couldn't tell for sure wether he was pure-blood or not.

6. Malfoy and Harry are going to face Voldemort together. And I trully believe Luna and Bill are going to play some significant roles.

7. Please may this not be the end of the book, not the end, not the end, not the end.....*book ends*... Nooooooooooooo....

Okay, so I was very sad with the ending. Sad that it ended up so suddenly (and I'm so keen to know what happened to Snape and Malfoy), and so unhappy with Dumbledore's death and Snape's 'treason' (although I believe it was all pure simulation and fake). However, it was a very good book, the best so far.

Oh, BTW. That basin couldn't be moved, so Dumbledore came to the brilliant idea of removing the drink off it. But instead of drinking it, couldn't he just spill it on the floor?

Regarding your second point about Snape's Avada Kedavra spell, I agree with you, Galar.

Here's some proof I read from a website. In the Order of the Phoenix, Harry tried to curse Bellatrix:

"Hatred rose in Harry such that he had never known before. He flung himself out from behind the fountain and bellowed "Crucio!" Bellatrix screamed. The spell had knocked her off her feet, but she did not writhe or shriek with pain as Neville had -- she was already on her feet again ... "Never used an Unforgivable Curse before, have you, boy?" she yelled. "You need to mean them, Potter! You need to really want to cause pain -- to enjoy it ..." (OotP pg 810/715)"

If Snape was really working on Dumbledore's orders to make it look to the world as if Snape had killed him, even if he had used the real Avada Kedavra, if he had not really meant it, if he really didn't want to kill Dumbledore, then isn't possible that the curse didn't kill Dumbledore, but only injured him badly?