Alright. before you start flaming me with anti-non-legit rants, hear me out.
Sometime last week I had a cravin' for some Shaymin. So I tracked down an Action Replay and got it. Anyway, I know that I should have waited the 2+ years for the event or whatever to get a real one [and trust me, when I do get a real one, I'll most likely release my non-legit one] BUT I don't live in an area where there are any events. So my question to you is: When is it okay to get and use a non-legit event Pokemon? Do you think it's never okay?

For competitive battle, anything non-legit is completely unacceptable.

For simply having it, haxxing is okay for event-only Pokemon.

theres only Shaymin in the game i thought once you catch it at its right place (Event using oak's letter) I think hes gone =/

My Shaymin isn't all maxed out and all of that crap. It's got Pokerus, but that's because it caught it during EV training. And it has moves that a Shaymin learns. I just wanted the Pokemon, not all the maxed out stuff.

yeah i dont think that theres anything wrong if its for personal use.

Absolutley! Not everbody has the time avaliable to them to sit around for hours and hours frustrating themselves over getting the right natures and IV's just to have to turn around and spend more hours EV training. As long as you're not being outrageously stupid or unfair, it's not a crime to save yourself some time. k

Agree, agree...I've seen to many WonderTombs and NoGuardChamps with 1HKO moves. Those are so hated and must be banned. But hacking within Legal limts of the game I believe is totally fair. If it isn't fair, then we should just ban Shoddy. No one needs to train for EVs or Breed for IVs, Natures and Moves there, and it's pretty much the same game.

Err...I didn't said nothing against "Legal Hacking" or playing Shoddy...If wasn't for legal hacking many people wouldn't have a team even close to competitive, and Shoddy is another history,the point of Shoddy is playing competitively without having to pass for all that drag of Breeding/Training and everything and mostly to test new strategies without having to spend hours,days and probably weeks to make a new poké that probably isn't that good...
correct me if i'm wrong but, i don't think that Shoddy is very related to the topic...Because that isn't considered hacking at all and have no influece on gameplay in D/P at least not directly...

But no one works hard fot they pokémon on Shoddy... And how could they Ban Shoddy?
It's not even from Nintendo and this Discussion about Competititve Battle and hacking is about D/P...
Is not related to Shoddy in anyway.

In my case i accept legal Hacking ...(and did it sometimes... ) Some people has a moral background that keeps them to accept legal hacks and most for no reason... Looking to Shoddy, that isn't considered hacking because the point of that is to simulate Pokémon Battles, not all the waste of time that's the charm of the series...Training,Breeding,etcetera, and we have to agree that using Shoddy isn't like hacking because even there you have limit of what you can do,for example...You can't have Legendaries with all IVs on 31 anymore...

Yes, It's really a pain to do all this, but if there are thousand of people that don't like it,
there shoud be some that like it (In my case,i do because i don't have much choice... ), But a matter of opinion shouldn't be a reason for hate or isolation,especially if he/she didn't made anything outside some limits... ...
An AR would be the Tool of my Dreams... *.*

Don't worry, I know you aren't talking about me.

Yes, Shoddy, NetBattle and other simulators are better in some aspects like finding opponents, making good teams and equality. But even with all that, Shoddy is just a Simulator (even being a great one ) ...

... i've been wondering...

after using an AR to encounter a pokemon,
would said pokemon develop the way it would if it were caught legitimately?

by that i mean,
would its stats be what they should be?

I think so. The only problem Shaymin has is a rediculously low defense, but I can fix that.

Shaymin's stats are all base 100.
that's not really too shabby considering it's a hedgehog covered in shrubbery.

I am personally against most of the hacking of the game.
I think about the game like I think about having a job.
You get paid because you did the work to get the money.
If you don't do the work you don't deserve getting the money.

The work in pokemon is engaging yourself for a large amount of time
to get exactly what you want (EV's, IV's, Natures, Baby Moves, XD moves, Etc...)

If it isn't worth the time then you've engaged yourself in the wrong game. The fact
that someone has to "rationalize" why it should be legit just proves that it shouldn't be.

But that's just my opinion.
I know I will be disagreed with.

That's a little bigoted of you. What about event Pokemon? No amount of time will get you one of those.

Hmmm, this is one big misconception we have to correct. Please don't include Effort in Competitive play. Effort has no place to play in Competitive play, Skill does. These 2 things operate differently from each other, not together. When we talk about the Metagame, we don't give a heck about effort.