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This will be short and to the point.

Starting now, any user caught creating alternate accounts will have their Psybucks removed, their signature and avatar privileges revoked for three weeks, placed on probation, and their name will be listed below until that punishment is served.

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Last edited by FireStarter on Sat May 26, 2007 3:53 pm, edited 3 times in total.



Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:00 am
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I'm just curious, but how would you know about that? :?


Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:57 pm
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We (the Lite Four) can see every transaction made. If we suspect someone is abusing Psybucks, we compare IPs, emails, and logs until we're certain someone has been abusing the system.


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Oh that is how it works. I get it know. I always wondered what you guys where talking about when you say "abusing Psybucks system".


Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:10 pm
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What R and how do U use Psybucks


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pokedude12022007 wrote:
What R and how do U use Psybucks


Please submit to the faqs: http://psypokes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=421


Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:16 pm
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An even better description of the psybuck system is at http://psypokes.com/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 707#100707

It is basically the currency of psypoke foums - you can donate, you can exchange for goods/services (Slateport Market). However, it cannot be exchanged for legal tender (ie, US dollars, british pound, Euro, etc).

Edit - I have a question (going a bit off-topic) - if the admins can see all transactions, do they have all psybuck records? I was just wondering, because if the records are available, are we as forumgoers (psypoke members) allowed to view our own?


Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:13 pm
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We can view the logs, but I don't think there's an option for viewing the logs, sorted by usernames. As such, it is unlikely that each person can view his/her own records, unless I'm wrong (since I haven't explored the administration panel much =p) or Jigglypuff does some brilliant coding thing that's currently out of my capabilities.


Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:23 pm
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I have a question regarding this new rule...WHY?..I mean, if I make a different account, how does that affects you or any other member of psypoke?

I would also like to point something you may didn't considered about this "Psybucks abuser" chase. Lets say I want to bother someone, so I make different accounts just to donate the money to that person...In this case he/she would be punished for something he/she was not guilty about. On the other hand, someone caught abusing psybucks could claim that someone else is doing it, and you would have no way to prove the oposite.

What Im trying to say is that this "hunt" (And therefore this rule) is pointless because you can´t really be 100% sure that someone is doing this (unless the guy is stupid enough to loggin in different accounts at similar hours).

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Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:08 pm
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Again, the key is the ip address - if you send the pb, you would et into trouble. If they send pb to themself, they would get into trouble.


Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:19 pm
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No, you could just do it from a different computer, there are many coffe internet things.


Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:36 pm
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I thought "Fire Starter" said, "This is a WARNING".


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I thought "Fire Starter" said, "This is a WARNING".


It was until you sent the pm.


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garabato wrote:
I mean, if I make a different account, how does that affects you or any other member of psypoke?


Waste of bandwidth space. Bandwidth costs money.

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I would also like to point something you may didn't considered about this "Psybucks abuser" chase. Lets say I want to bother someone, so I make different accounts just to donate the money to that person...In this case he/she would be punished for something he/she was not guilty about. On the other hand, someone caught abusing psybucks could claim that someone else is doing it, and you would have no way to prove the oposite.


It's pretty darn stupid and a waste of effort to make multiple accounts just to bother a person. And just because people can get away with it sometimes doesn't mean that the correct thing to do shouldn't be enforced. Isn't that the same with laws everywhere? And you don't have to worry about how we investigate things =)

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Edit - I have a question (going a bit off-topic) - if the admins can see all transactions, do they have all psybuck records? I was just wondering, because if the records are available, are we as forumgoers (psypoke members) allowed to view our own?


you can go through your PM inbox, outbox and sentbox to list all the donations you have either given or received (provided you haven't deleted them of course!)

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I have a question regarding this new rule...WHY?


Because a privilege is being abused. I think the Psybucks system was installed to make forum visits a bit more enjoyable, and if people go round making mule accounts to make themselves richer this goal couldn't be achieved now, could it?

I think what you are trying to say is "why bother? smart people can find a loophole!!!" Well personally I think the system is great, and as far as I can tell no one has been wrongly caught as of yet. It's also the best system that can be controlled, and if that frequent internet cafe visitor is taking extreme measures to make them "richer" on the internet, then shame on them. :(

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Just a quick little thing: You said you can view donation logs, since you can see the donations in your PM inbox, would this include PMs as well?


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blaziken234 wrote:
Just a quick little thing: You said you can view donation logs, since you can see the donations in your PM inbox, would this include PMs as well?


Someone's got a guilty conscience. :P

As for Psybux, I have a little bit of a confession. My friend signed on round about the same time as I did, The Snowy Owl. Well, I saw her at school the other day, and we got chatting, and she said that since she didn't really intend on ever posting, she would give me her Psybux, hence the emptying of her account. I am alerting this to you becuase the format of our name is similar, and thought you might have deemed me stupid enough to use a similar name to increase my Psybuck count.

Thanks!

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omg immediate b&.


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Can I have a paper with my translation records?, my familie needs to pay taxes next week................Lol :P

Now seriusly: thanks for the explanation, I didnt know that several accounts ocupied bandwith space. And I guess you are right, not because people can get away with that means you can't enforce it.

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nfield wrote:
omg immediate b&.


omg unnecessarily sarcastic.

But seriously, I didn't want to get any negative sort of attitudes, as I rather like Psypoke, and wouldn't mind staying for a stretch longer. :P

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I would think that you were being a little more unnecessarily sarcastic than he was. Sometimes sarcasm is just a joke; moderators aren't out to get you, and no one should feel like they have to walk on egg shells around another member. Even if it's not your type of humor, either lighten up or blow it off.

I don't think you have to explain yourself in these situations though, since the staff is intelligent enough to determine the real deal between abuse and fraud (fraud being a situation similar garabato explained). If you're doing the right thing, I don't believe you'll need to worry about pleading a case to us. I think for the most part you can relax, but even if you were unjustly convicted, pleading against it might also prove futile since you would have no evidence to convince us otherwise other than your word. Kissing ass and begging for forgiveness might be more useful. :)


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DatVu wrote:
I would think that you were being a little more unnecessarily sarcastic than he was. Sometimes sarcasm is just a joke; moderators aren't out to get you, and no one should feel like they have to walk on egg shells around another member. Even if it's not your type of humor, either lighten up or blow it off.


I was in fact being sarcastic back. The irony was exactly what you said, that I was being more than unecessarily sarcastic than he. No offence intended Nfield. ;)

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I don't think you have to explain yourself in these situations though, since the staff is intelligent enough to determine the real deal between abuse and fraud (fraud being a situation similar garabato explained). If you're doing the right thing, I don't believe you'll need to worry about pleading a case to us. I think for the most part you can relax, but even if you were unjustly convicted, pleading against it might also prove futile since you would have no evidence to convince us otherwise other than your word. Kissing ass and begging for forgiveness might be more useful. :)


Cool, I'll keep that in mind for when I give myself some bux. :P

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I don't get what the heck you mean

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If you mean you don't understand the dicussion of the past 5 posts, don't worry - Its a moderator being sarcastic.


However, psybuck abuse is when you sign up with multiple accounts, and just donate the 50 starting psybucks to get rich quickly.
http://psypokes.com/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 707#100707 is the description of psypoke currency, or money.


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I have to say this to clear me and Treeckoluv are brothers and have to share a computer so don't mix us up.

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