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Gyarados's original typing was supposed to be Water Dragon, but they scrapped the idea and made it a Water Flying. No to mention its entire design is based off the Chinese concept of the dragon.


Okay now, I can see it being a "Chinese Dragon" with the above now stated, they have a similar body shape but the head looks different from a dragon so...

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From my understanding on what a serpent, sea serpent and dragons are, it makes little sense for something like Gyarados to be considered a dragon, or even have been based on one. I do agree, however, that a sea serpent can sometimes be a dragon as few cultures make the connection between the two, I.E. Tiamat, though most cultures connect serpents and sea serpents to massive snake-like creatures, japanese culture is one of these.

That being said, it makes more sense for Charizard to have been based off of some type of European dragon though I believe that it's name and complete make-up were based entirely off of a lizard versus it having any dragon influence. Just my speculation.

On the topic of Gyarados, I believe that it was based off of a sea serpent and not a dragon and thus, became a massive snake-like creature instead of a dragon-like creature, hence why it was not given its dragon typing, since its makeup had no dragon influence. Although it's flying typing is still a mystery to me.

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PEOPLE! STOP ARGUING! Gyarados is based on a Chinese myth about a carp (Magikarp) who lept up to the heavens and became a dragon (Gyarados). Sea serpents in Chinese mythology ARE dragons. They are Dragons of the sea. Muck like how their are land dragons, sky dragons, and many more. So stop arguing if Gyarados is a dragon or sea serpent, cuz' technically, it's both.

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Impersonation wrote:
PEOPLE! STOP ARGUING!


I'm not arguing the topic. I'm just putting out there what I believe. I simply looked up the word sea serpent to get a better understanding because it would take a bit more than that to get me to believe something like Gyarados was actually based off of a dragon, even if the distinctions of Gyarados and a chinese dragon are similar.

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Gyarados is based on a Japanese myth about a carp (Magikarp) who lept up to the heavens and became a dragon (Gyarados).


If I'm not mistaken, it was a Chinese mythology and it was actually leapt over the Dragon Gate to become a dragon. I checked that out on bulbapedia as well to see where they got their information from. What swayed me a bit however was that in its origin it states that it appears to be based on a sea dragon or sea serpent. A sea dragon is a little more believable if you're referring to its violent and terrible nature, though it's appearance is more closely related to that of a sea serpent, or sea snake for those that confuse the two.

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Sea serpents in Chinese mythology ARE dragons. They are Dragons of the sea. Muck like how their are land dragons, sky dragons, and many more.So stop arguing if Gyarados is a dragon or sea serpent, cuz' technically, it's both.


[color=olive]I agree that in Chinese culture, sea serpents are sea dragons, though in other cultures, sea serpents are massive snake-like creatures, not dragon-like creatures, which is what I was stating. Though, there's definitely a bit of evidence that pull Gyarados either way. What it appeared that Gyarados was based on was backed up by the Magikarp in Pok

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PEOPLE! STOP ARGUING!


I'm not arguing the topic. I'm just putting out there what I believe. I simply looked up the word sea serpent to get a better understanding because it would take a bit more than that to get me to believe something like Gyarados was actually based off of a dragon, even if the distinctions of Gyarados and a chinese dragon are similar.


Putting out what you believe is debating. Debating is arguing.

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Gyarados is based on a Japanese myth about a carp (Magikarp) who lept up to the heavens and became a dragon (Gyarados).


If I'm not mistaken, it was a Chinese mythology and it was actually leapt over the Dragon Gate to become a dragon. I checked that out on bulbapedia as well to see where they got their information from. What swayed me a bit however was that in its origin it states that it appears to be based on a sea dragon or sea serpent. A sea dragon is a little more believable if you're referring to its violent and terrible nature, though it's appearance is more closely related to that of a sea serpent, or sea snake for those that confuse the two.


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PEOPLE! STOP ARGUING! Gyarados is based on a Chinese myth about a carp (Magikarp) who lept up to the heavens and became a dragon (Gyarados). Sea serpents in Chinese mythology ARE dragons. They are Dragons of the sea. Muck like how their are land dragons, sky dragons, and many more. So stop arguing if Gyarados is a dragon or sea serpent, cuz' technically, it's both.


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Sea serpents in Chinese mythology ARE dragons. They are Dragons of the sea. Muck like how their are land dragons, sky dragons, and many more.So stop arguing if Gyarados is a dragon or sea serpent, cuz' technically, it's both.


[color=olive]I agree that in Chinese culture, sea serpents are sea dragons, though in other cultures, sea serpents are massive snake-like creatures, not dragon-like creatures, which is what I was stating. Though, there's definitely a bit of evidence that pull Gyarados either way. What it appeared that Gyarados was based on was backed up by the Magikarp in Pok

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Thanks for clearing up what I said about Charmander and Charmeleon a bit.
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Groudon: Ground + don which mean lord of the ground
Based off of behemoth, designed like T-rex
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Kyogre: Kiao which means king of the sea + Great (I dunno about that last part)
Based off leviathan, designed like an orca whale
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Text from ancient catholic bible: "Then you set apart two creatures; one you called Behemoth and the other Leviathan. You put them in separate places, for the seventh part where the water was collected was not big enough to hold them both. A part of the land which was made dry on the third day you gave to Behemoth as his territory, a country of a thousand hills. To Leviathan you gave the seventh part, the water."

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Rayquaza {rayquaza}

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Based on: the Hebrew legends of Ziz, the unconquerable primal master of the sky. Its counterparts were Behemoth and Leviathan. It's features are based on Japanese dragon and the lindworm.

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Name: Rayquaza's name is likely a combination of ray (geometry) and quasar.

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Well I know that some pokes atmre based on certain things ex. Staryu =starfish but if you look on bulbapedia on the pokes page it shows what it originated from or what it's based on

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^ Uhhh. Just askin' did you read the first post? And If you've read the post above you, then you can see the Cited Works page on the bottom.

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The pokemon Relicanth is based on the Coelacanth, the common name of an order of fish thought to be extinct (since 100 million years ago) until the last couple decades. Coelacanths are considered living fossils because they have remained basically unchanged in appearance of physiology for millions of years. The "Reli-" portion of its name comes from the word "relic," referring to an item of significance (usually religious) that has been carefully preserved through time.

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Ha! They look so alike, that its funny to me somehow.

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Awesome. I made something very similar to this a while ago, and I'm glad you've revived the thought. I don't have much for picture examples, but I have lots of info. So, without further ado:

Eevee- Based on Tanuki, Japanese raccoon-dogs. They are thought to be shapeshifters, which aligns with the fact that Eevee has so many different evolutions.

Hydreigon- Based on Yamata-no-Orochi and the Hydra. Both were multiheaded serpent creatures, both very evil. Which represents Hydreigon's dark typing. I think the reason it has only three head is because otherwise it would get cluttered.

Infernape family- Based on Songoku, the Chinese Monkey King. Known for his skill in martial arts and Nyoi-Bo.

Mew- Based on cats and feti (plural of fetus, if you didn't know). Based on the evolutionary theory that we all evolved from a single common ancestor.

Reuniclus family- Based on cells and mitosis and meiosis. Possibly also based on Homuculus, strange human like creatures.

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EEVEEE IS A TANUKI? TANUKIS ARE THE BEST MYTHICAL (I hope not) CREATURES EVAH! But...it doesn't represent a tanuki... Q.Q

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I have had people often say to me that the Patrat evolution line is terrible because it's names don't actually relate to what it is. They think the names literally refer to a rat and a hog.

Patrat: Patrol-Meercat
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Both of them appear to be based upon a Meercat on "sentry duty".


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Go Here for in-depth explanations of many Pokemon's origins. Scroll down that page for the other Pokemon links.

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Wooper

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Hydreigon- Based on Yamata-no-Orochi and the Hydra. Both were multiheaded serpent creatures, both very evil. Which represents Hydreigon's dark typing. I think the reason it has only three head is because otherwise it would get cluttered.



They also tie in the number of heads with German numbers. Heino (ein is one), Zweilous(zwei is two), and Hydreigon(drei is three). I just noticed this one day and I am surprised that no one else has, at least that I know of.

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Nincada Ninjask & Shedinja are based on a Cicada

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It grows wings to become Ninjask and the left over skin has a hole in its back just like Shedinja

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Nincada - Ninja + Cicada
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Nincada Ninjask & Shedinja are based on a Cicada

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A Cicada molting

It grows wings to become Ninjask and the left over skin has a hole in its back just like Shedinja

Names derive from
Nincada - Ninja + Cicada
Ninjask - Ninja + Mask
Shedinja - Shed + Ninja


and those things are the only real life creature that uses a move from pokemon. "screeeeeeeeeech"

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