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ok i am doing a tourny soon and its got the same rules as the vgc so mence chomp are allowed

so its doubles, so i am gonna go for some e-q levitate attacks

so i will be leading with my bulky water swampert
{swampert} @ chesto berry/leftovers [there is item clause]
carful 200 hp 140 sp def 156 def 12 atk

rest
brickbreak
e-q
waterfall

so i need a partner for him and i want intimidate or status
so a mix mence like this

{salamence} @ life orb
nature unsure 232 speed 124 atk 172 sp atk

hydro pump
fire blast
outrage
stone edge/ toxic

{salamence} @ choice specs
nature unsure 252 speed 252 sp atk 4 hp

hydro pump
fire blast
draco meteor
suggestions?

{salamence} @ leftovers
nature unsure 180 hp 76 atk 212 speed 40 sp atk

roost
dragon dance
dragon claw
fire blast

or dragonite like so

{dragonite} @ leftovers
careful 252 hp 144 def 116 sp def

roost
heal bell
thunder wave
dragon claw

{dragonite} @ choice scarf
adamant 252 atk 4 hp 252 speed

fire blast
outrage
thunder punch
ice punch/superpower

or gyara

{gyarados} @ leftovers
jolly 248 speed 212 hp 48 atk

taunt
dragon dance
bounce
waterfall

{gyarados} @ leftovers/chesto berry
impish 252 hp 44 def 212 sp def

rest
thunder wave
roar
bounce

thanks a lot i really appreciated it if this is in the wrong place if i am breaking any rules or any thing then i apoligise but please let me know soon

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Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:59 pm
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If I were you I would use this Salamence I came up with to help you.

Salamence@Wide Lens (if is allowed)/Life Orb
Naive/Jolly
252 Attack/252 Speed/4 Special Attack
Dragon Dance
Rock Slide
Dragon Rush/Outrage/Dragon Claw
Fire Blast/Flamethrower.

Somewhat of a basic Salamence set from the good ole days. If Wide Lens is allowed run Dragon Rush as the flinch is nice, and it's accuracy jumps up. If Wide Lens isn't allowed then run Outrage or Dragon Claw, if you don't like being able to direct your target use Dragon Claw. Irregardless that if Wide Lens isn't allowed run Fire Blast as the power is always needed for the KO, but if accuracy is your thing then run Flamethrower.

One more question where is this tournament? If it is on an online website and sign ups haven't closed and I could join I would like to, but if it isn't then don't worry about it.

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Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:44 pm
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If its VGWC rules the you can other uber dragons

Lati@s good if you need a specical hitter, sweeper latios, tank latias

Giratina (origin) physical will allow you to cause fear to most allowed ubers bar groudon and kyogre, special to a lesser degree

Rayquaza weather blocking is important in the vga most common being abomasnow/kyogre 2x blizzard and Groudon/zapdos earthquake discharge/heatwave.

Beware the 4x weakness Ice and electric (boltbeam) are extremely common
and because its a double battle rest is very ineffective on a slow pokémon
Stat boosting is also risky
widelens is allowed
dragon rush is OK but remember only one of the two pokémon can get flinched. thus a rock slide is preferable for flinching
Note I blast a guy who choose dragon rush over outrage and I won He didn't hit once.

bulky tanks are the best in my mind
1 Tanks can take at least one boosted sweepers hit, and then take them down
2 sweepers gotta be fast. only bulky ones should risk the stat up
3 Supporter focus on boosting sweepers so they don't have to(helping hand, wheather) basically a fast wall
4 Suicide lead gotta be able to take out at least one foe before you go
5 Wall watch out when there are two of them and one of you Its a hard fight to win

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Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:39 am
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no unforyunatly all legandary ubers and wobbafeat are banned but mence and chomp are allowed

shina it is unfortunatly it is a convention [unless you happen to be in dublin ireland on saturday} and battle colleseum thing i like the wide lens mence its very interesting indeed i think i might go with that
4 pokemon per team only as well

thanks guys for your advice

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