It is currently Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:39 pm



Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 
 Seemingly Useless Items in HG 
Author Message
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:34 am
Posts: 226
Location: Arizona, USA
Since most of you are more experienced than I am with Pokémon in general . . . I thought I'd toss this out for discussion;

There are a few items which seem to me to only have negative effects (or no effect) on a Pokémon. I'm wondering if y'all are aware of positive effects these might have, or even any good use for them (aside from selling them)?

Iron Ball - cuts speed & makes flying/levitating Pokémon susceptable to ground moves.

Lagging Tail - "tremendously heavy", slows down your Pokémon

Dragon Scale - no discernable effect?

Mushrooms (tiny or large) - again, no discernable effect?

Shards (various & sundry) - no discernable effect?

I'm wondering if a couple of these might be needed for me to give to some NPC to get something else (such as a TM, HM, or some "service")? I seem to recall in one previous version that the Heart Scales were needed for the move tutor and the shards could be traded to some guy on an island for certain other items. But the Iron Ball and Lagging Tail really have me stumped, why would one give these to a Pokémon when they seem to only have harmful effects?

_________________
Yes ... I'm 55 years old and only began playing Pokémon in '09. I may have to grow old, but I do NOT have to grow up!

3DS FC (Y and X): 0834-1199-3647

See my photos and paintings on deviantArt at: http://barn0wl.deviantart.com/

MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/grumpydispatcher

FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/FlagBarnOwl

"FlagBarn0wl" Blog: http://flagbarnowl.blogspot.com/


Fri May 28, 2010 2:30 pm
Profile
Pokemon Master
Pokemon Master
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:46 pm
Posts: 1241
Shards and Mushrooms can be traded to NPCs. Dragon Scale is a trade evolution item.

Iron Ball can be thrown at enemies using Fling for heavy damage. Lagging Tail can be used if you want to put a fast pokemon on a Trick Room team. Both items can be Tricked onto opponent pokemon also.

_________________
Need homework help? Image Image

"Screw the Ivys, I'm applying to Smogon University!"


Shinies
Ruby: Spinda, Golbat, Duskull
Pearl: Purugly

Want to be an Official Unofficial Psypoke Gym Leader? Sign up today!


Fri May 28, 2010 3:41 pm
Profile
Pokemon Master
Pokemon Master
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 03, 2010 5:43 pm
Posts: 1312
well, mushrooms don't do crap on ss, for sure. but in d/p/pt, you can give them to the move tutor. doesn't dragon scale also boost dragon-type moves?? i always just sell iron balls (had a crapload on diamond), and lagging tail is, as Sion9 stated, only for trick room teams.

_________________
Image


Fri May 28, 2010 5:25 pm
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 03, 2006 5:45 am
Posts: 113
Location: Here
In addition to the things those fine people have said, you can trade shards with a guy in multiple towns (including by the pokemon center in Violet City) to get assorted berries.


Sat May 29, 2010 1:19 pm
Profile
Psypoke Maniac
Psypoke Maniac
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm
Posts: 2512
Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
& also, I should clarify that Mushrooms are used for the Move Tutor in the Gen 3 games which are Ruby, Sapphire & Emerald & in DPPt & beyond, the move tutor asks for Heart Scales in exchange for services...so...ingame all those items have uses except for Mushrooms which you should just sell(though...) & the Iron Ball which maybe in the Battle Frontier has some stradegetic use but other then that, it's a no go...

_________________
3DS Friend Code = 4441 - 9336 - 3527
(Be aware that I must also add you so in order to know you added it, just maybe...)

Eevee Breeding Project leftovers are Available here + rest of my trading wants & haves...
Lawence Codye's Trading Thread (Gen 6 / X & Y)

"The Nine Tails of Subconscious - Lawence Codye"


Sat May 29, 2010 4:35 pm
Profile
Pokemon Ranger
Pokemon Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:45 pm
Posts: 829
Location: In a Secret Hideout
Mushrooms -> trade for move tutor in FRLG only, other wise just sell them

Shards -> DP - Trade 10 of same color for wheather move TM, Pl - same as DP but can also trade to move tutor to learn special moves, HGSS - trade for berries in either Violet city or in Fushia city

Lagging tail -> makes your pokemon go last, it doesn't actually reduce speed so I don't know that it works in Trick room, how ever going last has some benefits for some pokemon

Iron Ball -> Strongest Item for Fling grounds levitators and flyers also reduces their speed

Dragon Scale -> An evolutionary Item for Seadra, when traded while holding dragon scale it becomes Kingdra, It doesn't power up dragon moves that would be Dragon FANG


Sun May 30, 2010 8:02 am
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:34 am
Posts: 226
Location: Arizona, USA
Cool! Thanks for the help guys! Going to have to figure out how to do some trading & battling via WiFi one of these days.

_________________
Yes ... I'm 55 years old and only began playing Pokémon in '09. I may have to grow old, but I do NOT have to grow up!

3DS FC (Y and X): 0834-1199-3647

See my photos and paintings on deviantArt at: http://barn0wl.deviantart.com/

MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/grumpydispatcher

FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/FlagBarnOwl

"FlagBarn0wl" Blog: http://flagbarnowl.blogspot.com/


Sun May 30, 2010 11:56 am
Profile
Ace Trainer
Ace Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:32 pm
Posts: 400
i've used lagging tail only when trying to teach smeargle transform to make sure it wasn't faster than a ditto


Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:20 pm
Profile
Pokemon Trainer
Pokemon Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:54 pm
Posts: 38
Location: Born in Kanto, schooled in Johto, settled in Hoenn
I'd just like to say that the programmers don't just put in items that have no effect in the game. That would be pointless, flame-bringing, and just a waste of space on the game card. But it is true that some items don't work when you send them from genIII to genIV games, as exemplified above.

_________________
I play Pokémon. I like physics.


Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:25 pm
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:34 am
Posts: 226
Location: Arizona, USA
True PowerPeanut - however, even the otherwise useless nugget is a good source of income. But, as I had mentioned earlier, the items I was asking about only seemed to me to be mostly useless. To me, almost everything else you pick up or are given in the game give some kind of help to a pokemon who holds it (or can be used to evolve a pokemon). But a couple of the ones I'd mentioned (iron ball & lagging tail) appeared to me to be pretty useless.

Oddly enough, I used "fling" (as suggested) with the iron ball & it did do a fair amount of damage. Unfortunetly, I didn't get it back. :-( LOL

_________________
Yes ... I'm 55 years old and only began playing Pokémon in '09. I may have to grow old, but I do NOT have to grow up!

3DS FC (Y and X): 0834-1199-3647

See my photos and paintings on deviantArt at: http://barn0wl.deviantart.com/

MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/grumpydispatcher

FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/FlagBarnOwl

"FlagBarn0wl" Blog: http://flagbarnowl.blogspot.com/


Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:28 pm
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher

Joined: Fri May 21, 2010 6:57 pm
Posts: 14
BarnOwl wrote:
True PowerPeanut - however, even the otherwise useless nugget is a good source of income. But, as I had mentioned earlier, the items I was asking about only seemed to me to be mostly useless. To me, almost everything else you pick up or are given in the game give some kind of help to a pokemon who holds it (or can be used to evolve a pokemon). But a couple of the ones I'd mentioned (iron ball & lagging tail) appeared to me to be pretty useless.

Oddly enough, I used "fling" (as suggested) with the iron ball & it did do a fair amount of damage. Unfortunetly, I didn't get it back. :-( LOL
Here's some information:
When you use one-use only items on Wireless, Wi-Fi and Battle Frontier battles, they will return once the battle is finished. Don't be discouraged from using them for fear of them disappearing.


Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:02 pm
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:34 am
Posts: 226
Location: Arizona, USA
Doctor Meowgon wrote:
Here's some information:
When you use one-use only items on Wireless, Wi-Fi and Battle Frontier battles, they will return once the battle is finished. Don't be discouraged from using them for fear of them disappearing.


Ah - alas! I used mine in a battle with some wild critter or other. When the foe Pokémon fainted, I didn't get the iron ball back. (Though, saying I only had one iron ball and now have none, sounds a bit weird . . . )

_________________
Yes ... I'm 55 years old and only began playing Pokémon in '09. I may have to grow old, but I do NOT have to grow up!

3DS FC (Y and X): 0834-1199-3647

See my photos and paintings on deviantArt at: http://barn0wl.deviantart.com/

MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/grumpydispatcher

FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/FlagBarnOwl

"FlagBarn0wl" Blog: http://flagbarnowl.blogspot.com/


Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:29 pm
Profile
Pokemon Ranger
Pokemon Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 12, 2010 3:16 pm
Posts: 555
Location: That's between me and the Danes...
I would imagine items like the Flame Orb, Iron Ball, and Lagging Tail were created with the moves Thief and Fling in mind.

_________________
Final Black Team:
ImageImageImageImageImageImage


Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:34 pm
Profile WWW
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:55 pm
Posts: 192
I find that Flame Orb is great for guts movesets and Toxic orb for quick feet movesets,( works really well on Ursaring btw). Flame orb can also be Tricked onto Physical sweepers to completely shut them down

_________________
Image Image Image

I completed the Nuzlocke Challenge,give it a go!
FC (Rackham): 2751 3755 8475 (HG)


Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:22 pm
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher

Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:32 pm
Posts: 3
Actually, it depends

lagging tail and iron ball slow you down. it can make revenge moves more likely to succeed, give you better chances of payback getting double power, or getting gyro ball increased power

shards-traded for berries, or can be sold

mushroom-can be sold (actually, that's its only purpose)

Dragon scale- i think u give it so seadra and trade it to evolve it


Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:40 pm
Profile
Pokemon Trainer
Pokemon Trainer

Joined: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:23 am
Posts: 29
I think this link shall be more helpful for you and shall clear all doubts or maybe not

www.psypokes.com/hgss/items.php


Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:24 pm
Profile
Ace Trainer
Ace Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:42 pm
Posts: 440
Location: North America
Drgaon Scale is an evolutionary item that when you give it to Seadra and u trade it, it evolves into Kingdra. Also, Lagging Tail and Iron Ball provide strategy that can be used to ur advantage if you use Trick.


Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:45 pm
Profile
Psychic Trainer
Psychic Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:25 pm
Posts: 85
Location: Brasil
You can use Lagging Tail with Metal Burst, since this move isn't a decreased priority move.

_________________
"
Inducas nos in tentationem
Ne inducas nos in tentationem
"


Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:12 am
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:55 am
Posts: 230
Location: South Park
The lagging tail can be extremely useful if used by the right person.

_________________
Image



Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:43 pm
Profile WWW
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 19 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by STSoftware for PTF.