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The last time I looked on Smogon University, Umbreon had been moved up to OU, if I'm not mistaken.

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Everlasting Sapphire wrote:
The last time I looked on Smogon University, Umbreon had been moved up to OU, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, Umbreon was moved to OU, and Cressy, PZ, and Raikou all moved back up to BL.
However, the two most notable changes were Latias getting banned to Ubers (regardless of whether or not carrying Soul Dew) and Salamence (just today, lol) getting banned to Ubers.


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Tier list as of 9/30/10

Ubers

Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys
Deoxys-A
Deoxys-D
Deoxys-S
Dialga
Garchomp
Giratina
Giratina-O
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latios
Latias
Lugia
Manaphy
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Salamence
Shaymin-S
Wobbuffet
Wynaut


OU overused

Aerodactyl
Azelf
Blissey
Breloom
Bronzong
Celebi
Cresselia
Dragonite
Dusknoir
Electivire
Empoleon
Flygon
Forretress
Gengar
Gliscor
Gyarados
Heatran
Hippowdon
Infernape
Jirachi
Jolteon
Kingdra
Lucario
Machamp
Magnezone
Mamoswine
Metagross
Ninjask
Roserade
Rotom-Appliance
Scizor
Shaymin-L
Skarmory
Smeargle
Snorlax
Starmie
Suicune
Swampert
Tentacruel
Togekiss
Tyranitar
Umbreon
Vaporeon
Weavile
Zapdos


BL

Abomasnow
Cresselia
Crobat
Froslass
Gallade
Honchkrow
Porygon-Z
Raikou
Staraptor
Yanmega


UU underused

Absol
Aggron
Alakazam
Altaria
Ambipom
Arcanine
Azumarill
Blastoise
Blaziken
Chansey
Claydol
Clefable
Cloyster
Donphan
Drapion
Dugtrio
Exeggutor
Feraligatr
Hariyama
Heracross
Hitmonlee
Hitmontop
Houndoom
Kabutops
Kangaskhan
Lanturn
Leafeon
Ludicolo
Mesprit
Milotic
Miltank
Mismagius
Moltres
Nidoking
Omastar
Primeape
Registeel
Rhyperior
Rotom-Standard
Sceptile
Scyther
Slowbro
Spiritomb
Steelix
Swellow
Tangrowth
Torterra
Toxicroak
Ursaring
Uxie
Venusaur
Weezing


NU neverused

Ampharos
Arbok
Ariados
Armaldo
Articuno
Banette
Bastiodon
Beautifly
Beedrill
Bellossom
Bibarel
Butterfree
Cacturne
Camerupt
Carnivine
Castform
Charizard
Chatot
Cherrim
Chimecho
Clamperl
Corsola
Cradily
Crawdaunt
Delcatty
Delibird
Dewgong
Ditto
Dodrio
Drifblim
Dunsparce
Dustox
Electrode
Entei
Espeon
Exploud
Farfetch'd
Fearow
Flareon
Floatzel
Furret
Gardevoir
Gastrodon
Girafarig
Glaceon
Glalie
Golduck
Golem
Gorebyss
Granbull
Grumpig
Hitmonchan
Huntail
Hypno
Illumise
Jumpluff
Jynx
Kecleon
Kingler
Kricketune
Lapras
Ledian
Lickilicky
Linoone
Lopunny
Lumineon
Lunatone
Luvdisc
Luxray
Magcargo
Magmortar
Magneton
Manectric
Mantine
Marowak
Masquerain
Mawile
Medicham
Meganium
Mightyena
Minun
Mothim
Mr. Mime
Muk
Nidoqueen
Ninetales
Noctowl
Octillery
Pachirisu
Parasect
Pelipper
Persian
Phione
Pidgeot
Pikachu
Pinsir
Plusle
Politoed
Poliwrath
Porygon2
Probopass
Purugly
Quagsire
Qwilfish
Raichu
Rampardos
Rapidash
Raticate
Regice
Regigigas
Regirock
Relicanth
Sableye
Sandslash
Seaking
Seviper
Sharpedo
Shedinja
Shiftry
Shuckle
Skuntank
Slaking
Slowking
Solrock
Spinda
Stantler
Sudowoodo
Sunflora
Swalot
Tauros
Torkoal
Trapinch
Tropius
Unown
Venomoth
Vespiquen
Victreebel
Vigoroth
Vileplume
Volbeat
Wailord
Walrein
Whiscash
Wigglytuff
Wormadam
Wormadam-G
Wormadam-S
Xatu
Zangoose

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thanks for the update

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List updated into first post - thanks Chef

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I would like to see Porygon-Z move up to the OU listing, you make that thing modest with perfect IVs and 252 EVs it has 405 Spc Attack. With a pure sweeper moveset and adaptability it could be destructive.

{porygon-z} @ Life Orb/Choice Scarf
Modest - Adaptability
252 Spc Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP

~ Swift
~ Hyper Beam
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Beam

Normally I would say Hyperbeam... are you a little slow? But in reality it gets 100% STAB with Adaptability and with Life Orb gives it ridiculous base power. Swift can never miss and gets that 100% STAB and having a Life Orb boost is just intense. I think for Hyper Beam the math is like, 405 Spc Atk + 300 Move Power + 1.3x Damage provided by Life Orb is one nasty hit. It is basically a OHKO on anything but in reality you lose porygon. Anyways, I agree with it being at least BL but don't you think you could consider it OU seeing as it can take out most anything it comes across even if it is an eye for an eye? Or you could give it Choice Scarf if you feel like switching it in and out, with that kind of base power it could OHKO any dragon and in reality Swift isn't bad at all on it.


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It's because of it's speed and frailness that took him out of OU, it easily revenge killed. Timid is usually run over modest even on CS sets. Also Tri-Attack > Swift.

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MasterChef wrote:
It's because of it's speed and frailness that took him out of OU, it easily revenge killed. Timid is usually run over modest even on CS sets. Also Tri-Attack > Swift.

Eww I totally forgot about Tri-Attack that is much better than swift, I agree with the frailness but its speed isn't epic fail. I do agree that it is easily revenge killed but when you use it to take out some defensive tyrant its always nice. Idk perhaps it's just a dream of mine, im not like some huge porygon fan but still it had its day.


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Heracross is now BL.

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