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well, i was playing ss and i caught with amazing luck a shiny golbat and ive been using it ever since.

turns out it can learn fly. Now, im old school and i knew that in the 1st and 2nd generations it couldnt, and i really remember being excited when i was like 8 that crobat could finally learn fly right after i got old school silver and a guide :)

anyway, im by blackthorn city (with 7 badges) and i want to go up and down the route below the city that is one way so i need a fly slave. i caught a skarmory, went to teach it fly and noticed my golbat could learn it too.

I was shocked and golbat couldnt learn fly in the 1st,2nd, or 3rd generation but now it could.

was i the last one to get the memo??

also, KINGLER CANT LEARN WATERFALL! that means it doesnt get a stab physical attack til level 50something.

im pissed off about that.

if there is any other oddities you have noticed (good or bad) please inform us all here :D

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I have some though they probably have always been;

1. Vulpix/Ninetales is not Baton Pass compatible = It would benefit from it greatly considering it's movepool but nope, nope, nothing...
2. Like KingErick said before me, Golbat can now learn Fly all of a sudden = I was glad too cause I was feeling lazy the moment I found this out...tbh though, it was way, way overdue...
3. Growlithe/Arcanine is Morning Sun compatible = wat...why this pokemon, why...this pokemon who is perfectly fine without it gets it & there are way more suitable canidates from the Grass Type & Fire Type line that should have got it instead...
4. Aromatherapy isn't a field move = this has to be very contraversal considering the lack of pokemon that learn it at all & also to consider the fact that instead, Heal Bell gets to be used like this instead I believe...

That's all I got for now...

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How is this:

Slopoke learn Fire Blast! I found that one out when I was planning my SS team.

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pikachu can fly now and all of this surprises you people
what a world what a world
real odditites
a female seaking
female slowking
a male jynx its still wearing women's clothing

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How is this:

Slopoke learn Fire Blast! I found that one out when I was planning my SS team.

no way!!!

im going to restart my soulsilver if i confirm that...

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'Tis true. My slopokes moveset is Fire Blast, Shadow Ball, Surf, and Confusion.

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Weavile Lord wrote:
'Tis true. My slopokes moveset is Fire Blast, Shadow Ball, Surf, and Confusion.


im thinking about a :
slowking
surf
physic
nasty plot
fire blast/blizzard (i want fire blast but there is so many dragons.... yet i have a blazikan with fire moves, a ferilagatr with ice fang)

both of the above mentioned are physical though and slowking is special..

so do i back up the fire or ice type??

i will probably pick to back up the fire type xD

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Yes I was suprised to find out how versitile slowpoke is. Now I could just find someone to trade it with so it can evolve...

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Lord_vegeta wrote:
real odditites
a male jynx its still wearing women's clothing


Yeah, except that male Jynx don't exist, thereby killing your joke.

One "oddity" that annoyed me was that Medicham couldn't learn Zen Headbutt until Platinum. GameFreak conveniently FORGOT to give a move with ZEN in the title to Pokemon based around meditation and Buddhism? *waw waw waw* Also, Snorlax can't learn Slack Off, but almost everything can learn Earthquake except for Rapidash even though its hooves are harder than diamonds.

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Frost wrote:
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real odditites
a male jynx its still wearing women's clothing


Yeah, except that male Jynx don't exist, thereby killing your joke.

ok could have sworn i seen a male jynx my bad
still female pokemon called king is kinda weird
Azurill can have a sex change
i had one turn in to a male when it became marill

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i had one turn in to a male when it became marill


thats funny- i have never bothered to raise one...

i have the family in my pokedex though...

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KingErick wrote:
Lord_vegeta wrote:

i had one turn in to a male when it became marill


thats funny- i have never bothered to raise one...

i have the family in my pokedex though...

your telling me i have a male marill named amanda now
what a world

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Hitmonchan not learning Shadow punch or Meteor Mash, despite being moves that are boosted by Iron fist.

Hitmonlee not learning low kick until platinum

Hitmontop being the only fight-type that doesn't learn Focus punch, also with that horn/top on his head a horn based attack would be fitting.

I'm in a hitmon mood today :p

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Lord_vegeta wrote:
Azurill can have a sex change
i had one turn in to a male when it became marill


...yeah, but I believe that Azurill has a gender in it's current state...gotta pay more attention to that...&...

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Slopoke learn Fire Blast! I found that one out when I was planning my SS team.


WTF...really?!...I would be even more shocked but I got here too late to...oh, well...I might try out a slowpoke one time around...as for it's evolved form, no idea...

Getting back on topic;

5. Machop can even be female = This disguested me to no end every Generation that comes out yet they never fix this...
6. Some of the pokemon with a very low chance of being breeded female = Eevee, Starters, etc...this is retarted to me, enough said...

More later I guess...

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Lawence Codye wrote:

5. Machop can even be female = This disguested me to no end every Generation that comes out yet they never fix this...

That doesnt bug me. Girls can be muscular...it's not like the machop line has visible male parts. -_-

Anyway.
- Zubat can use Mean Look, even though it doesnt have eyes.
- Gardevoir can be male. This was kinda fixed with the release of gallade though.
- Skuntank can use Flamethrower.
- Houndoom can use Thunder Fang.
- A lot of non flying types(heracross, corphish, etc) can use Aerial Ace.

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Charizard Rider wrote:
Lawence Codye wrote:

5. Machop can even be female = This disguested me to no end every Generation that comes out yet they never fix this...

That doesnt bug me. Girls can be muscular...it's not like the machop line has visible male parts. -_-

- Gardevoir can be male.


Double standard, much?

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Biggest Failure:

With a whopping 130 base ATK, Flareon only gets Fire Fang as a Physical STAB move. It's not even close to broken with Flare Blitz due it its lackluster speed.


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Frost wrote:
Charizard Rider wrote:
Lawence Codye wrote:

5. Machop can even be female = This disguested me to no end every Generation that comes out yet they never fix this...

That doesnt bug me. Girls can be muscular...it's not like the machop line has visible male parts. -_-

- Gardevoir can be male.


Double standard, much?


*thinks* Yeah I guess it is...it's just that gardevoir looks more feminine than masculine. Machop looks neither.

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Charizard Rider wrote:
That doesnt bug me. Girls can be muscular...it's not like the machop line has visible male parts. -_-

Anyway.
- Zubat can use Mean Look, even though it doesnt have eyes.
- Gardevoir can be male. This was kinda fixed with the release of gallade though.
- Skuntank can use Flamethrower.
- Houndoom can use Thunder Fang.
- A lot of non flying types(heracross, corphish, etc) can use Aerial Ace.


umm...let's see;

1. Zubat using mean look is weird...

2. Gardevior being male is the same problem wise as machop being female...so what if Machop doesn't have visable male parts...it evolves into outrageously male looking pokemon that I can't possibly see as being female under no circumstances & they made Tyrogue & the Hitmons Male only so...yeah...also when they made Gallade, they should have obliterated the Male Gardevior thing but didn't which is utter crap imo...

3. It's kind of like a joke but I see your point...

4. Fire & Lightning are considered to be kind of simular naturally...& Electivire can learn Fire Punch, etc...

5. Yeah this kind of bugs me but I don't mind too much...

Also I have another for my list;

7. Mantine learning moves like Gunk Shot but basically pretty much not having any ATK instead of having some Variety in the Special Attack Damage category...about 4 types, yeah that's refreshing...why don't you just drop Signal Beam & the few Ice Type Attacks it can learn from it while you're at it...why people, why?...

Oh & great thread idea seriously, KingErick...

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Charizard Rider wrote:
Lawence Codye wrote:

5. Machop can even be female = This disguested me to no end every Generation that comes out yet they never fix this...

That doesnt bug me. Girls can be muscular...it's not like the machop line has visible male parts. -_-

Anyway.
- Zubat can use Mean Look, even though it doesnt have eyes.
- Gardevoir can be male. This was kinda fixed with the release of gallade though.
- Skuntank can use Flamethrower.
- Houndoom can use Thunder Fang.
- A lot of non flying types(heracross, corphish, etc) can use Aerial Ace.


To me it made sense that Skuntank could use Flamethrower. It's a skunk, it must fart a lot, and so there is plenty of methane and fuel for flames. Here's the other oddity-- it learns EXPLOSION. Ewwww.

The Aerial Ace thing bugs me too. I mean, TYRANITAR and ARCANINE can learn Aerial Ace. Seriously, Gamefreak, WHAT?

@Skandranonsg: THAT is one of the biggest fails of Gamefreak. Poor Flareon and Entei got severely shafted. Not to mention they overpowered Zapdos and underpowered Articuno and Moltres. If Zapdos can learn Heat Wave, Moltres should get Discharge or something >_>

Another one of Gamefreak's fails: Pidgeot. Poor Pidgeot. Learns Gust at Lv 9 and doesn't get another damaging STAB move till Lv 38 with Wing Attack. And Starly learns Wing Attack when? Lv 20+. Nice one Gamefreak.

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Another one of Gamefreak's fails: Pidgeot. Poor Pidgeot. Learns Gust at Lv 9 and doesn't get another damaging STAB move till Lv 38 with Wing Attack. And Starly learns Wing Attack when? Lv 20+. Nice one Gamefreak.


Well Pidgey learns it at 33 & Starly evolves before LV20+ but I see your point...they should have done better here...

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poor pidgeot...

great to see my topic is alive :D

rhydon can learn surf :/ and drAGON PUlse

its a rock poke....

that can swim and shoot dragon rays out of its mouth...

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rhydon can learn surf :/ and drAGON PUlse

its a rock poke....

that can swim and shoot dragon rays out of its mouth...


The Dragon Pulse thing is ok but wth is it even able to Surf, I will never understand that nonsense...

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Rhydon + Surf= O.O

Then again, Nidoqueen and King can both learn Surf too... and Ice Beam and Flamethrower >_>

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Rhydon + Surf= O.O

Then again, Nidoqueen and King can both learn Surf too... and Ice Beam and Flamethrower >_>


Again, that also being just so damn weird...

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