Maybe a chance to drop all stats by a stage? XD Plus the 50% flinch of course!

This.
Yes.
But it needs to have a MAX of 65 base power, so it's not too broken.

Yeah, & maybe drop the flinch percentage down a bit...50% is a bit much don't anyone think?...maybe 30%, 35% even...meh...

Yeah, 50% is a bit too much, but Fake Out makes you Flinch every time, so... Also, you guys are WAY off topic.

Meh.
There's not a whole lot more to discuss about the Z's.
Any new news?

Nope, not yet, which is why we were discussing what it's movepool might be which I think is on topic, no?...

It's the "Illusory Fox" Pokemon, right? I'm guessing it learns a new move related to that, or at least Double Team, by level-up.

Yeah, Double Team is kind of a must for it seeing as there are very few pokemon that learn the move by lv up & it most likely fits this pokemon very well if they don't make a new move to go in it's place...

I hope it gets Double Team and a really high Speed base stat. It looks fast for one, and being the Illusory Fox...yeah. I'm really hoping for it to be somewhat specialized as well. High speed and attack most likely... main point is that it shouldn't be rounded well, in my opinion anyways.

Exactly this...if it is well rounded all over stats wise...they messed up...end of story...

I think it'd be neat to be a speedy tank.
Illusory. That doesn't necessarily mean "I can do lots of damage."
I think it means "I'm tough to take down because I'm hard to hit."

Yes, that would be neat...also, believe me, I know that's not what Illusionary means...
I mean once you know what a Phantasm actually is then...you know it's way different then a Kamikaze...& thus should know what Illusionary actually means hopefully, haha...

One looks like a dark vulpix looking evee and the other one looks like a werewolf. Cool!

Looks slightly bad ass...could be a fire/dark type which would be sweet.

While im on it...houndoom needs an evo...could be a cerebrus

My guess, a new evolution path that takes the place of rattatta in the new games. Maybe fire/dark type, although it looks more mono dark to me.

it's prolly a dark/fire pokemon

yay! can't wait!

will there be new games too, with these pokemon?

umm, are you asking if they will star in another game besides the 5th Gen Pokemon Games cause if not then...I just...won't help you any further in answering that question...& also I don't see it actually being a Fire/Dark as it was I believe said that they would be Dark Type pokemon somewhere...so...

Gen V will be a new adventure with new Pokemon, a new region (maybe), and a new hero (probably)

Nintendo's gonna release a new system with it, too (a DS which also has motion sensors and some other stuff)
Source-GameInformer interview.

I hope the motion sensors aren't going to be used in the main game. That would really tick me off.

From what I read, it's like how the iPod Touch / iPhone use motion sensing.
They said the system won't be officially released for a bit longer, but from what I read, it doesn't seem like it's gonna be outrageously prominent.
Maybe for the Game Corner, or if they keep the Pokeathalon or something.

The game is for DS but they did release a new DS in 3D. Its not gonna be used for the Gen V game though.

Nooo! No no no no nooo!

I am an VERY avid dark type enthusiast, and I would never say that. Houndoom is fairly beastly as is.

To me, I honestly think of it as no continuation of evolutionary chain. Zorua is simply the first from and the second is Zoroark. This means there cannot be an added on Pokemon from previous generations, that wouldn't make much sense.

I'm thinking he'll be like the dark version of Mr. Mime. Putting up barriers, hard to hit, with only halfway decent attack strengths. However, maybe the chances of him being the Anti-Lucario is a better guess.