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Ursaring Help

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Zenrot Psychic Trainer Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:02 am Posts: 78	Ursaring Help Im looking for help to make a good Ursaring. I am completely confused on this pokemon, but I realy want to use him. I really have NO information: Ursaring @ ? ? Nature Ability: ? Moveset: ? ? ? ? _________________ I want to be The very best Like no one ever was
Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:01 am

Venumeleon Dragon Tamer Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:31 pm Posts: 139	Re: Ursaring Help This is my personal favourite for Ursaring: Ursaring@Life Orb/Leftovers Adamant Ability: Guts Rest Sleep Talk Facade Stone Edge/Earthquake Ursaring is the only Pokemon other than Swellow to get Guts + STAB Facade, so it pulls off Sleep Talk+Facade very well, along with its monstrous 130 Attack. Stone Edge to get Skarmory and Gengar, or EQ for Rocks and other Steels. It's a pity it's slow, though. _________________ <center><img src="images/trainercards/Venumeleon.png"></center>
Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:57 am

Zenrot Psychic Trainer Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:02 am Posts: 78	Re: Ursaring Help oh wow, i REALLY like that set, and thats a great idea to get the guts boost., how should i handle his EV's though? _________________ I want to be The very best Like no one ever was
Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:39 pm

Sion9 Pokemon Master Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:46 pm Posts: 1241	Re: Ursaring Help Ursaring's Spd is really low, you might want to max HP and Atk so it can take hits better as it won't outspeed much anyway with max Spd. _________________ Need homework help? "Screw the Ivys, I'm applying to Smogon University!" Shinies Ruby: Spinda, Golbat, Duskull Pearl: Purugly Want to be an Official Unofficial Psypoke Gym Leader? Sign up today!
Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:52 pm

Zenrot Psychic Trainer Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:02 am Posts: 78	Re: Ursaring Help yeah, thats what i was thinking, thanks. _________________ I want to be The very best Like no one ever was
Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:48 am

Brianguyanddude Bug Catcher Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 1:13 pm Posts: 8	Re: Ursaring Help Try this one: Ursaring with Toxic Orb Adamant/Jolly Nature Ability:Quick Feet EVs:6HP/252Atk/252Spd .Swords Dance/Fire Punch .Facade .Shadow Claw .Earthquake This Moveset gives Ursaring some speed making it able to Sweep effectively,and after toxic orb is in effect,and it has used Swords Dance,Facade will KILL anything thats not Steel type.It may not be as defensive as the last set that was mentioned(and it may not last long due to poison)but it has allot more sweeping Potential. _________________ In the beginning,there was Chaos. In the end,there will be only Chaos!!! -Kratos,God of War 3
Fri May 30, 2008 4:38 pm

Sapphirath Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:25 am Posts: 627 Location: Singapore	Re: Ursaring Help Brianguyanddude wrote: Try this one: Ursaring with Toxic Orb Adamant/Jolly Nature Ability:Quick Feet EVs:6HP/252Atk/252Spd .Swords Dance/Fire Punch .Facade .Shadow Claw .Earthquake This Moveset gives Ursaring some speed making it able to Sweep effectively,and after toxic orb is in effect,and it has used Swords Dance,Facade will KILL anything thats not Steel type.It may not be as defensive as the last set that was mentioned(and it may not last long due to poison)but it has allot more sweeping Potential. I've proposed this set in a Facader thread before but many people were just against it....I have no idea why...Quick Feets is useless blablabla....that's what some of them said...and they insisted that a Slow, Guts Ursaring works better. Oh well, let's see what their response will be now.
Fri May 30, 2008 8:17 pm

Cuddles Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:23 pm Posts: 899	Re: Ursaring Help my ursaring is pretty much the same: @ toxic orb quick feet / male 252 atk / lots of speed / rest HP swords dance facade earthquake crunch i gave it enough speed to hit 200 (300 with toxic). basically you send him in to force a switch. swords dance while they switch something else in, and then you can do LOTS of damage. note that 300 spd isnt all that fast, but a max speed jolly quick feet ursaring gets up to 343 (pretty sure). pretty fast, but still not faster than gengar etc. but after a swords dance, facade is beastly. with guts i think its close to a OHKO even on skarm. _________________ everything you will ever need to know is in my sig.
Sat May 31, 2008 3:23 pm

Bushin Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais	Re: Ursaring Help Sapphirath wrote: Brianguyanddude wrote: Try this one: Ursaring with Toxic Orb Adamant/Jolly Nature Ability:Quick Feet EVs:6HP/252Atk/252Spd .Swords Dance/Fire Punch .Facade .Shadow Claw .Earthquake This Moveset gives Ursaring some speed making it able to Sweep effectively,and after toxic orb is in effect,and it has used Swords Dance,Facade will KILL anything thats not Steel type.It may not be as defensive as the last set that was mentioned(and it may not last long due to poison)but it has allot more sweeping Potential. I've proposed this set in a Facader thread before but many people were just against it....I have no idea why...Quick Feets is useless blablabla....that's what some of them said...and they insisted that a Slow, Guts Ursaring works better. Oh well, let's see what their response will be now. Well...More speed is always good,this may be a good set... But,with all respect ,i prefer a bulky one... And i will say the reasons... 1-Slow Even with Max Ev+Jolly,his Max Speed is 229,what makes him get a speed of 343...What isn't enough to outspeed an Infernape... But the good news is that everything slower is doomed! It's perfect for a late game sweeping... Be careful about Choice Scarfers and First Priority! Most important the latter... Vacuum Wave WILL hurt... 2-Durability He not only lost leftovers recovery,he also gains toxic damage as a bonus... And with the great amount of residual damage we face on OU (Stealth Rock,Spikes,Sandstorm,Hail)...It will be dead in few turns... 3-Setting Up He needs one turn to use Sword Dance, And he only get's the speed + Facade boost after he activate Toxic Orb... So you lose one turn to start setting... That is not something so hard if you can predict well... No offense, But i think it will be hard to get this Sword Dance... 4-Coverage... His moves will be ... Sword Dance + 3 attacking moves... You really want that Facade Boost so... you have two more attacking moves... Elemental Punches are illegal with Quick Feet... (I hope they make those move tutors again on platinum... ) So...you got those options... Normal+Dark/Ghost+Ground = Forretress & Skarmory Walls... Normal+Ground+Rock = Bronzong Walls... Normal+Fighting+Dark/Ghost = Spiritomb Walls... Not bad... But not awesome either... Yeah... It might be a good strategy i think i might use it someday... But i dunno,man... Just my opinion... BTW awesome BL pokémon... _________________ Get your custom sprites,avatars and signatures at Froggy's Lilypad! My Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Bushin22 Watch,Comment,Rate and Enjoy! ^_^x Currently BUSY with real life,so i might take a while to respond messages or RMTs... Sorry,I might be back someday...
Sat May 31, 2008 5:24 pm

Cuddles Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:23 pm Posts: 899	Re: Ursaring Help there is also the brave nature possibility. with a minimum speed of 103 he could do well in a trick room team. if he got paralysed, even better..... as for being walled, he's still gonna do STACKS to skarm/zong/anything with swords dance, guts, and facade (STAB plus raise from status). i really like ursaring - he's my mascot on smogon btw - what does everyone think of psypokes new mascot?? _________________ everything you will ever need to know is in my sig.
Sat May 31, 2008 11:40 pm

jot Bug Catcher Joined: Sat May 31, 2008 11:41 pm Posts: 1	Re: Ursaring Help @ Toxic Orb Quick Feet/Jolly 252 HP 216 Spe rest HP Swords Dance EQ Facade Crunch I lead with a standard Baton Ninjask, and I just pass speed boosts + any swords I can fit + subs to Ursa and proceed to destroy. Ursa has SD to use on a switch or incase Ninjask goes down _________________
Sat May 31, 2008 11:49 pm

Cuddles Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:23 pm Posts: 899	Re: Ursaring Help yeah, that would be pretty much my exact set i just had another look at ursa's stats. why does it have a special attack base of 75? if only sp atk and spd were switched - then adamant quick feet ursa would have 373 speed - that beats max speed sceptile/duggy/alakazam by 1....... _________________ everything you will ever need to know is in my sig.
Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:14 am

Sapphirath Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:25 am Posts: 627 Location: Singapore	Re: Ursaring Help I don't think a Bulky Ursaring's gonna do much b4 it faints....and it will almost surely faint after taking out at most 1 Pokemon unless it switches amd after which it'll become quite useless...that "Tankiness" isn't gonna protect it from much...at all. I'd rather take my chances at an Ursaring who has a chance of wiping out an entire team if the opposition doesn't have anything faster.
Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:35 am

Bushin Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:39 am Posts: 689 Location: Brazil-Minas Gerais	Re: Ursaring Help Cuddles wrote: yeah, that would be pretty much my exact set i just had another look at ursa's stats. why does it have a special attack base of 75? if only sp atk and spd were switched - then adamant quick feet ursa would have 373 speed - that beats max speed sceptile/duggy/alakazam by 1....... I guess that's one of the reasons he isn't an OU... Sapphirath wrote: I don't think a Bulky Ursaring's gonna do much b4 it faints....and it will almost surely faint after taking out at most 1 Pokemon unless it switches amd after which it'll become quite useless...that "Tankiness" isn't gonna protect it from much...at all. I'd rather take my chances at an Ursaring who has a chance of wiping out an entire team if the opposition doesn't have anything faster. Good luck with that. Cuddles wrote: there is also the brave nature possibility. with a minimum speed of 103 he could do well in a trick room team. if he got paralysed, even better..... as for being walled, he's still gonna do STACKS to skarm/zong/anything with swords dance, guts, and facade (STAB plus raise from status). Well... I liked very much this Trick Room Idea! Cuddles wrote: i really like ursaring - he's my mascot on smogon btw - what does everyone think of psypokes new mascot?? Yeah... FTW! ^_^ But about the psypokes' new mascot... Urgggh... No,thank you... I simply HATE bidoof...>_> _________________ Get your custom sprites,avatars and signatures at Froggy's Lilypad! My Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Bushin22 Watch,Comment,Rate and Enjoy! ^_^x Currently BUSY with real life,so i might take a while to respond messages or RMTs... Sorry,I might be back someday...
Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:22 am

Roar Of Time Pokemon Ranger Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:25 am Posts: 691	Re: Ursaring Help Ursaring@Choice Band Guts Adamant 252 HP 252 ATK 6 def Facade Fire Punch Crunch EQ/close combat Switch it in on a WoW and let the destruction begin, 252 HP allows Ursaring to survive some hits, _________________ Clickage <Derek> is anyone here ?? <AngrySparrow> No <Derek> im gonna leave because no one is here *** Derek has quit (Exit: Psypoke Forever!)
Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:11 am

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