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 Who is the most powerful Elite 4 in all pokemon versions? 
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lance was the 2nd toughest in leaf green/fire red (the second battle) and the rival also in leaf green/fire red, couldnt take down his tyranitar, all meh pkmn fainted by then

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I gotta say Lucian. his mixture in pokemon varys, from sweepers to walls. One tough challenge. :|

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Bertha and Cynthia were the hardest for me.

Quagsire was my hate for Bertha, while Cynthia's Garchomp frustrated me to no end. In fact, I could only beat her with my fastest Pokemon Hiko the {infernape} by Brick Breaking the heck outta Garchomp.

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Out of every single person who ever was Champion?


I'd still have to say Gary Oak.

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QUAGSIRE! argh.... hate bertha... so much!

double team + protect + Dig = BADNESS!

if it's not underground or protecting itself, you usually end up missing! AGH!

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i found that the psychic elite one in D/P was hard. i got wiped out like 3 times till i was so pissed i traided some pokemon for that.

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Sinnoh's were tougher than the other gens but the 4 were still quite easy though I struggled with Cynthia and her :censored: Milotic.

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LeafGreen

Lorelei: Either Thunderbolted or Blastburned.
Bruno: Pfft please ANYTHING was a go-go.
Agatha: Lotsa Shadow Balls and possibly an Explosion.
Lance: Ice Beamzzzzz
Rival: Meh, all of mine were super effective.

Hardest: Agatha but my Rival kept switching so that prolonged it.


Sapphire

Sidney: SHEER COLD
Phoebe: SHEER COLD
Glacia: SHEER COLD
Drake: Puh-ritty sure I used Spla- SHEER COLDZZ
Steven: I wuv mai Kyogre.

Hardest: I think it might have been Phoebe.


Diamond

Aaron: Coupla Brave Birds.
Bertha: Can't really remember.
Flint: SURFIEZ.
Lucian: Damn his Bronzong. I'd rather wade through seven miles of sick than face that satanic force again.
Cynthia: I wuv mai Dialga.

Hardest: Bronzong... Oh Lucian was easy... It's just Bronzong >:[

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Lance because of his dragonite I always died at him! :?

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I think My hardest E4 battle was Lorelie cuz I kept dieing at her :censored: {jynx}

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I think it was in LG and FR the dragon person since all my pokemon were weekened and he had dragons!


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I went through the Hoenn E4 today in Sapphire and found Phoebe and Glacia annoying as heck. Not hard, just annoying. Dusclops walled everything (but not to the extent of Bronzong), and Sceptile was the only one in my team who had an advantage over Glacia. And of course, I had to use Revives a lot due to everyone getting whooped by Blizzard.

In Emerald I just pull Rayquaza and make him Outrage/Hyper Beam everything.
Drake was easy - Kyogre Ice Beam all. (It was annoying when Sala went first with Fly and brought Kyogre to 7 HP...)
Steven was easier - 2 Calm Minds, then Surf his whole team for OHKOs. (Ice Beam for Cradily.) Ftr, Kyogre was lv 49 with a SA of 166, Hardy Nature, for those who were wondering.
Sidney was easy. Just a lot of mixing and matching.

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leaf green
lorelei: pretty difficult but i just electrocuted everything
Bruno: OMG how easy was that!!!!!! :D
Agatha: found it pretty difficult but i just mixed and matched with moves
Lance: easy, i think it went, electric, ice, ice ,ice,ice!!
Rival: difficult but my team was better!

Hardest in leaf green : probably lorelei but only because she kept switching and had
a good defence.

emerald
Sidney: OMG!!!!!!! blaziken just wiped out everything!!!!!!!
Pheobe: quite difficult but to be honest i just used flying moves and surf on it!!!
Glacia: well easy!!! i just used blaziken and sky uppercut it all!
Drake: Easy i just iced it all.lol!!!
Steven: a bit more difficult but i watered down everything in the end!!!

Hardest in emerald : pheobe but only because i didnt have anything good against her.

Diamond
Aaron: pretty easy i just usedfire on all except drapion which i got out empoleon
with earthquake
Bertha: EASIEST BY MILES!!!!! roserade with grass knot and petal dance!!!!
Flint: a bit trickier with only two fire types but it went, empoleon took out infenape, rapidash
and steelix, then used staraptor with close combat on lopunny and luxray's crunch on drifblim.
Lucian: Trickier i must admit but i used luxray's crunch for girafarig, mr.mime and alakazam,
then i used staraptors aerial ace on medicham and rapidash's fire blast on bronzong.
CYNTHIA: Empoleon used a few surfs on spiritonb and the knocked out garchomp with avalanche,
roserade knocked out gastrodon (not milotic because of ice beam), luxray knocked out milotic and rapidash knocked out roserade and lucario.

hardest in diamond: Cyntia, but really i found them all easy :)

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Firered:
Lorelei:Easy
Bruno:Easy
Agatha:Medium
Lance:Hard
Rival:Very Hard
Hardest:Rival

Emerald:Easy
A Rayquaza Outrage was located at the Hoenn Elite Four

Diamond:
Easy except for the last person
Hardest: Last Person

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From FireRed/LeafGreen-Gary after the nationaldex
From Emerald-Wallace-Cause of his stupid Mylotic and Ludicolo
Ruby/Sapphire-none My sceptile with earthquake,dragonclaw,leafblade,brickbreak beat them all!!! :D
Diamond/Pearl-Cynthia cause of her steriod abusing Garchomp.

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Lucian because I didn't have any fire Pokemon for that Bronzong so I had to find a Ponyta and raise it to a lvl 50 Rapidash.

Every other game the E4 is easy especially in Emerald because I can OHKO every single Pokemon with my lvl 100 Rayquaza and I've done it over 50 times.

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WALLACE!! Ah!!! I can't stand him in Emerald. Blaziken was my starter, and it was absolutely useless for the most part. I'm ashamed to say that that was the first time (and only time) that I had to trade over Pokemon from another game to beat the E4. :frustrated:
(Really, is it fair that they give us TWO main challenge trainers (for lack of better words) that are water type, especially for fire-type specialists?

A good runner-up, however, is my rival on FireRed. He's got a Blastoise that scares the living daylight out of ground, rock, and fire types. (I only ever beat the E4 twice on that game)

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I think they only mean the elite 4 and not the champion!

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Jaredt222 wrote:
I think they only mean the elite 4 and not the champion!

The Champion is considered part of the Elite 4, as you always have to fight him/her right afterwards.

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lorlei
jynx flamethrower
lapras solarbeam
rest razor leaf

bruno
steelix flamethrower
rest aerial ace/ fly

agatha
all psychic

lance
garydos thunder
rest ice beam

duh[rival]
heracross fly
charizard sheer cold
tyranitar razor leaf
alakazam ice beam
exxecutor ic beam
garydos thunder

20-30 mn

sidney
all double kick

pheobe
whatever doesn't get grudged

glacia
all double kick

drake
all ice beam

wallice
wailord razor leaf
milotic solarbeam
wishcash razor leaf
ludicolo aerial ace/ fly
tentacruel psychic
garydos thunder
20-35mn
they all stink, but Agatha

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That would be Gary on Second round for me[Fire Red/Leaf Green]....
With everyting with level 70+...

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Bushin wrote:
That would be Gary on Second round for me[Fire Red/Leaf Green]....
With everyting with level 70+...

He wasn't actually that hard for me...
By then, I had a Mewtwo and Kyogre to abuse anyway. XD

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Bushin wrote:
That would be Gary on Second round for me[Fire Red/Leaf Green]....
With everyting with level 70+...

He wasn't actually that hard for me...
By then, I had a Mewtwo and Kyogre to abuse anyway. XD


Yeah...
I never use legendaries in-game...
except if i find they are really cool...
Like my {articuno} and {latias} ...

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Lance wasn't really hard, especially when I had my gyarados and my dragonite.

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rival in versions red etc. or phychic guy on diamond etc. (forgot his name)

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