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MissingNo_Is_My_Friend wrote:
I've heard some very good ideas. It seems that a lot of you guys really put some time into the project.

Here's an idea, since I'm not ready to battle for real yet:

After beating a gym leader, you get a badge icon you can put in your signature. The badge will be designed by the leader to represent the Pokemon type they prefer.

I'd volunteer for a leader position, but as I said earlier I don't think I'm ready yet, plus I'm on a weird schedule, work evenings, stay up at night, sleep diring the day.


Me too !! I really want to be a GRASS TYPE GYM LEADER but I'm not Strong enough and as stated Earlier I have no WIFI....

My team would be

{bellossom} {ludicolo} {meganium} {tropius} {torterra} {carnivine} {cradily} {cacturne} {sceptile} {jumpluff} {exeggutor} {roserade}

I'll switch switch Pokemon :D

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Ermm, undertaker shouldn't we be able to use Dragon Tamer pokes that are used in the Battle Tower in D/P
Heres a list-

Arcanine
Steelix
Aerodactyl
Typholsion
Feraligatar
Meganium
Tyranitar

Aggron
Sceptile
Skamory

Add these to ur list

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Orange=used in RSE
Blue-used in D/P

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okay, firstly, if it is approved i will be helping Undertaker out. here is what i think, in order:

UT: Monday would be best. I don't expect to fare well, because i have no competitive team at the moment. It should not be one day however. Split it out over the week. have one round a day and let the combatants report the results. Also, should some gyms be combined? There is NO POSSIBLE WAY i can run 2 gyms. I prefer dark. Like i said, i don't even have 1 competitive team, let alone 2 :?

cuddles: yes, no E4 and champ. still, there should be a tournament to determine rank, for challengers. leaders can supply prizes at their discretion. NO HACKS PERIOD - a trade BEFORE the battle, so if there are hacks, there will be no wasted time. #6, i still think there should be a challenge system.

airman: the leaders can have ANY non-uber pokemon of their type on their roster to switch out at will (between the 3 or whatever slots) the remaining slots are ANY pokemon they want that keeps with the rules.

missingno: I agree with the badge icon, but i think it would be up to the site mods.

welcomekanna: PLEASE STOP POSTING - You have no wifi and are just spamming up the forum.

ROT: How do you justify that as fair? Think about it, for your three staple pokes, you can use 8 diff types (excuse if i miscounted). That gives you an unfair advantage. A very large number of pokes learn the move crunch. Myself, being the dark leader should therefore be able to use these pokes as my staples, right? Fair? Not so much

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:evil: :evil:
akizzk538 wrote:
I really like this idea. It'll give people a way to get some competitive battle experience & it sounds like it will be sweet. I like the idea of prizes, but handing out hacked pokemon is kind of lame.
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i totally agree. someone with every legendary of every nature, all caught in regular pokeballs has HACKED them. obviously!!! hard work my a**.

for prizes, dont you think its enough to have your name in some kind of hall of fame on this site? i can give stuff away easily because of cloning, but not everyone can. i could make something like a mseterball the prize for beating my gym if thats the way we decide to go. but maybe there should be something special if you beat the champion.
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:evil: I don't know cheat !!!

They're the fruit of my lbors Just Repeating and Reapeating all the games I have !!! :evil:
It's true I don't have 20 of every nature.... But at least there's 5 6 7 of every....

Reapeat: I don't know Hack , Clone , and others...I don't cheat....

:evil: :evil: What's the thrill with Cheat ????! :evil: :evil:

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KOL40 wrote:


ROT: How do you justify that as fair? Think about it, for your three staple pokes, you can use 8 diff types (excuse if i miscounted). That gives you an unfair advantage. A very large number of pokes learn the move crunch. Myself, being the dark leader should therefore be able to use these pokes as my staples, right? Fair? Not so much


Ok there is only five fully evolved dragon pokes that we can use ok and two of them are rubbish so there is only 4 dragon types that we can use, so six pokes in all we need 12

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KOL40 wrote:

welcomekanna: PLEASE STOP POSTING - You have no wifi and are just spamming up the forum.


:oops: Sorry :oops:

After this I will never post here on this tournament again.....Period

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I didn't realize you had such few choices!!

I still don't think it is entirely fair, but at the least fire types should be disabled choices. Main weakness being ice, so gives you unfair advantage. But i also realize that most Ice Beams don't come from ice types, so i don't know how to call that one :?

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What about Charizard? Its got a Dragon egg group

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Roar Of Time wrote:
What about Charizard? Its got a Dragon egg group


i think you can use charizard (it was mentioned before by undertaker i think) but it wont absorb ice attacks still (neutral damage due to being part flying)... i think a milotic, being part of the dragon egg group and a water type, would be best suited for absorbing ice attacks.

just to put it out there that i can help out as well, but i cant be a gym leader of any sort (it dawned on me that i dont have a common type going through my lvl100/EV trained pokes O.o) but do get this in order soon, since i want the battle experience :)


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OFF TOPIC-4-ever bug catcher can u please delete my rate for choice pokes coz my and Sapparath are going 2 battle it out I don't want him to get a un fair advantage

ON TOPIC- Can we be gym leaders for 2 catergories?

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Roar Of Time wrote:
OFF TOPIC-4-ever bug catcher can u please delete my rate for choice pokes coz my and Sapparath are going 2 battle it out I don't want him to get a un fair advantage

ON TOPIC- Can we be gym leaders for 2 catergories?


1. taken care of

2. sure you can, but i think it is best for everyone to get a chance to sign up for a gym. if, after a few days or so, a type is still open then i think it will be alright to sign up for multiple gyms. priority should go to those who wants to sign up for a gym and hasn't signed up yet.


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Thank you very much, 4 ever bug catcher, I am very grateful

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no prob, but on a side note...

i realized that you and Sapphirath have the dragon-gym down, but instead of battling each other to fight for the gym, maybe you guys can like... team up? it sounds really cheesy but maybe there can be gym with a two-on-two match, similar (but not really) to tate+liza back in RSE.

i dunno... its an idea i thought of just now


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Hmm, that's accutally a great idea, ehh u know we could also have gym traniers right like in game gyms

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dragonite, kingdra, flygon, altaria, salamence, garchomp

thats 6. and like with all the other gyms, you only need to play 3 of them. your other 3 could be good counters to the usual dragon killers. and dont forget, gym leaders are supposed to lose every now and then.

i think the dragon gym should be no different to the others in the sense of having to use at least 3 DRAGON TYPES. if you choose to be the dragon gym leader, then it will just be a little difficult (possibly).

as for my idea about "trading" to check for hacked pokemon.... i dont think a trade before the battle is a good idea, since then both teams know the opponents pokes as well as their stats and moves. you should just enter a battle knowing that you wont get away with hacks, because you will have to prove it at the end. if someone is caught using hacks, then they could be banned - that should be incentive enough, right?

its great to see this taking form. i guess once it is sorted out and a full roster of gym leaders is chosen, a new (sticky) topic will be started with a full list of rules etc.

by the way, i vote for the no UBERS clause. legends should be allowed, but maybe a restriction on the number of these. and a very clearly defined list of ubers. these can also be checked in the after-battle trade.

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Unless you want it specifically on psypoke, there's already a site called bulky waters that does this sort of thing. See below

http://www.phpbber.com/phpbb/index.php? ... ulkywaters

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man, there are so many of those alternative forums. theres also the battle league run by alkhazor. but with the number of members psypoke has, i think it would be a good idea to run one here.

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WOW were on our third page already.

Thanks to all who have helped me out these past few days, I've been getting home late each day and it is nice to see you guys help.

First of all:
My helpers so far (admin/peeps):
Cuddles
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I will post this on the front later.

2nd:
Just to make a clarification for gym leaders, you can choose to use all 6 of your types, but you can only use 3 of your alternate group in a 3v3. For ex: I'm a water Leader. I can use all 6 of my waters in battle, but i can only use 3 of the 6 i PM the overseers.
Also, there might be co-leaders instead of a face-off saves more time.
Dragons added to the list is: Aerodactyl, Kingdra, Charizard, Garydos, Milotic.
These are the only pokemon I am willing to slide cause of the dragon supply.

3rd:
The tournament will be held on Sunday and be spanned out. I will be posting out the FC's shortly. And all of the rules Cuddles mentioned on the 2nd page is apart of the BL rules. Say if the gym has 2 or more leaders, there will be a prelim to the tournament, so we can get one of each type in there. The guy that gets elim from his tournament will be the alternative to the Gym.
Edit: Closed

4th:
Can some1 set up a link to the banned Ubers? In addition, will border Ubers be banned? If we do allow Legends only 1 will be used.

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I don't think Borderline Ubers(eg-Garchomp) should be banned coz well most Gym leaders in game use them.

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cool.... i like having max one legend.

i didnt quite get point 2. i see that its fair for a gym leader to have to use 3 pokemon of their type (at the absolute minimum), and that they should be allowed to use more if they wish. in a 6v6 that is. comt to think of it, i dont see why 3v3 would be that great. but anyway, if the leader chooses 3v3 i think they should have to use at least 2 of their chosen type. i didnt really understand what you were saying about 3v3 battles.....

i also think the DRAGON leader should use 3 pokemon with DRAGON in its typing. the other 3 can resist ice like crazy, but a dragon leader should have dragons. if someone is trying to beat the dragon gym they will of course bring some ice beamers. imagine seeing that the "dragon" is a lapras, lol :lol: gym leaders are going to have to expect a few people to beat them every now and then......

and what is this "tournament"? if im a gym leader, im happy for people to challenge me. they can just say what time zone they are in, and we can work out a time to play. is the tournament just to decide who becomes leaders of gyms which are disputed?

UBERS:
mew
mewtwo
lugia
ho-oh
latias/latios (with or without soul dew)
groudon
kyogre
rayquaza
deoxys (all forms)
dialga
palkia
giratina
manaphy
darkrai
shaymin
arceus

plus wobbuffet and wynaut

someone comment on whether ive missed any. i dont think i did.

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actually the tournament is gonna decide the rank of the Gym Leaders (no e4's). So if Kol loses and has the worst score (6-0) then he will be the lowest ranked Gym leader and it works its way up. Its similar to the ranking system, other Gym Leaders can position each other for ranking. Also, I will post the Gym Leaders' records just as a reminder to myself in deciding the E4/Champ. When the Gyms are set then the Leaders can post their rules, names, and FCs.

I never really mentioned 3v3's, but:
If the match is a 6v6, then the Gym Leader has the option of using as much of their type (3 min.) and no more than 3 of the alternative list.

If 4v4, same as above but 2 min. for corresponding type and no more than 2 from alternative list.

If 3v3, 2 min for corresponding type and only 1 from alternative.

The Gym Leader can decide what type of setup they want for their Gym.

The tounament matches should be best out of 1 or best out of 3

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Okay, i think if it is saturday, i will have to forfeit and take the lowest rank. I have to work 11AM-8:30PM. So, unless me and my opponent can work a time around that, I forfeit.

As to developments:

Cuddles wrote:
i also think the DRAGON leader should use 3 pokemon with DRAGON in its typing. the other 3 can resist ice like crazy, but a dragon leader should have dragons. if someone is trying to beat the dragon gym they will of course bring some ice beamers. imagine seeing that the "dragon" is a lapras, lol :lol: gym leaders are going to have to expect a few people to beat them every now and then......


That is what i was saying earlier, just couldn't pull the words together as well as cuddles, i agree 100%.

Another agreement with cuddles: There should just be gym leaders and no E4/champ. It keeps things simple and clean. I don't know if this is a democracy or if Undertaker is an authoritarian ruler, but if it is that is two votes for no E4/champ.

I think the bottom 8 gym leaders should be able to be challenged for their positions after a trainer (i guess what we can refer to normal users as) has 8 bages. That would be better since (if) we have no E4 or champ.

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ah, that sounds great :)

as for ranking, maybe we could skip that at first. tournaments are notoriously difficult to organise, and administer. getting everybody together etc. it would seriously take several weeks just to do that.

it might be simpler to just go with the order they are in at the moment (whichever order you wrote the types down in the first post). after a few battles have been waged, we could simply order the gym leaders according to their win/loss ratio.

i kinda dont think rank is so important here - in the game there is a natural rank, although this corresponds more to just the level of the gym leader's pokemon. i feel like it would just be cool to try and challenge all the gym leaders in any random order.

i hope you dont mind me trying to simplify things a bit. it would be really cool if we could do all these things, like rank the gym leaders, have an elite four and champion, etc. but i reckon people will more just want to have the fun of challenging people. and besides, who would really want to be the top gym leader! i wouldnt want to wait for someone to beat 16 others before i even had my first match ;)

of course, feel free to do things however you see best. but i reckon a simplified approach might just work best. judging by the success the idea has (like you said there is already 3 pages in this thread!) we could decide to expand things a bit.

im already excited about this - such a good idea, undertaker!

EDIT: KOL40's post appeared while i was writing mine. that was a GREAT idea about challenging gym leaders for their positions. once you have 8 badges, you are worthy to challenge a leader for their position. more details could be worked out at a later date as to how the challenge would work. ie, say you challenge the water gym leader. would you have to use a team you would propose to use as the new water gym leader? (ie have 3+ water types) and the reigning gym leader plays you as if they were a challenger? (ie with any team they like, within guidlines of course) or would you both play your water teams against each other? (maybe this would be the fairest option) its just that a gym leader is themselves at something of a disadvantage, seeing as they are "advertising" what type they will focus on. a challenge for their position should at least be made on somewhat equal terms.

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So...
The top 9 would be considered the Upper Class and the bottom 8 would be considered as B-Class? I'll stop with the E4 since I can't get around this. Kol the tournament isnt Saturday (Sunday :} ). If a Gym Leader isn't available for 24 hours from the last match of the round, then you are DQ'd. That way we can have some flexibiltiy to schedule the matches. The only match that might be Saturday is the ROT vs Sapp for the Dragon Gym Main Leader. Then if we have 17 exact then should the loser of the Battle be put in the B-Class?

Edit: Hehe I didnt see Cuddles post. No tournament then? Good. Its better to just do that battle off and just go by win-loss ratio. After a week or two of battling, then I will post the ranks. I do agree with Kol's idea of the 8 badge system to challenge that way we won't have to be bothered with countless applications.

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So, are you saying i have 24 hrs to schedule my match from sunday?

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