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bluestrike wrote:
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Blue strike - shadow ball and body slam would be best. Though, return could go instead of body slam. Your choice (I like status).


Why have Body Slam or Return when I could have earthquake?


STAB. Miltank is normal, so Body Slam and Return are both more powerful than Earthquake.

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point taken. I will go with body slam, as she will probably be traded often between my games, rendering return useless. Thanks v. much.
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peanut lover can i ask you something?alright

are most of the upgraged moves that you told me are from move tutoring?


Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:45 am
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I'm new.
Here's my Emerald party:

Rayquaza (lv .88) with Dragon Fang
Lonely
Fly
Dragon Claw
Hyper Beam
Outrage

Ampharos (lv. 50) with Magnet
Modest
Thunder Wave
Thunder Bolt
Light Scree
Thunder Shock

Gardevoir (lv. 40) with Twistedspoon
Calm
Calm Mind
Psychic
Confusion
Imprison

Latios (lv. 50) with Leftovers
Naive
Dragon Claw
Ice Beam
Luster Purge
Psychic

Blaziken (lv.100) with Charcoal
Impish
Sky Uppercut
Blaze Kick
Slah
Dig

Aggron (lv. 43) with King's Rock
Relaxed
Iron Tail
Rock Smash
Metal Claw
Take Down

I use Latios and Ampharos mainly in the Battle Frontier. They have won me two rounds at the battle tower, two rounds at the battle dome, one round at the battle palace and one round at the battle pike. This party normally wins me matches against my friends' partys.


Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:46 pm
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ya thats nice
usually my latios has psychic,luster purge,????????,????
thunder , fly
hes lvl 50 and 56(duplicated)
and the other two on my BF team are:

flygon lvl 47 :oops:
fly
fireblast
crunch
dragonbreath

aggron lvl 50
focus punch
iron tail
metal sound
surf

any suggestions for help?


Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:15 pm
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Plz help me with my team
it's for the last E4 tourney of Adv generation
here on brazil ...
Rules:
1-Item Clause off
2-Legendary Clause(Only 1,and only against the Elite 4)
3-lv90 ubers =Legendary
4-Lati@s with soul dew=ubers
5-Species Clause
6-Sleep Clause On
7-Ohko Clause On
8-Recovery clause
(Items,Moves that also damage(leech seed,pain split=OK)

{linoone} @ Salac B
Jolly-Ev:Hp-4(289) Att-252 Speed-252
Pick Up
-Belly Drum
-Substitute
-Flail
-Shadow Ball

{blissey} @ Lefties
Bold-Ev:Hp-150 Def-250 Sp.def-100
Natural Cure
-Seismic Toss
-Counter
-Aromatheraphy
-Snatch

{dusclops} @Lefties
Impish-Ev:HP-Max Att-50 -Def-208
Pressure
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Punch
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split

{ludicolo} @Lefties
Bold-Ev:Hp-Max Def-180 Sp.Def-78
Rain Dish
-Leech Seed
-Rain Dance
-Toxic
-Surf

{metagross} @Liechi B.
Adamant-Ev:[No Idea(traded)]
Clear Body
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Agility

{gengar} @Lum B.
Timid-Ev:Sp.Att & Speed Max
Levitate
-Hidden Power[Dark-70]
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
-Snatch

{jynx} @Lum.B
Bold-Ev:Hp-Max Sp.Att-200 Def-58
????
-Ice Beam
-Lovely Kiss
-Perish Song
-Mean Look

{kyogre} @Lum B.
Modest-Lv90 Ev:HP & Sp.Att-200 Sp.Def110
(forget the name...)
-Hidro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Thunder
-Calm Mind

I can only choose 6...
And in the tourney's fights,i can only use 3 ...

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Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:26 pm
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My team for Emerald

Blaziken/Rash nature lv.76

Blaze Kick
Double Kick
Cut
Sky Uppercut

Mightyena/Quiet nature lv.75

Return
Crunch
Rock Smash
Thief

Raichu/Serious nature lv.76

Thunderbolt
Flash
Thunder
Double-Edge

Swellow/Naughty nature lv.75

Peck
Wing Attack
Aerial Ace
Fly

Azumarill/Bashful nature lv.79

Dive
Waterfall
Surf
Ice Beam

I would love suggestions for my Mightyena and Blaziken the most.

Thanks!


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Hey
Here's my RSE team.

{lanturn} Female @ Leftovers
Bold | Volt Absorb
~ Attract
~ Confuse Ray
~ Thunder Wave
~ Surf

In my opinion, this guy is probably the best annoyer I've ever seen.

{ludicolo} @ L
Bold | Rain Dish
~ Rain Dance
~ Leech Seed
~ Giga Drain
~ Toxic

{blissey} @ L
Bold | Serene Grace
~ Heal Bell
~ Seismic Toss
~ Softboiled
~ Ice Beam

I just had to have her. She's the best.

{umbreon} @ L
Impish | Synchronize
~ Mean Look
~ Wish
~ Baton Pass
~ Toxic

{heracross} @ Salac Berry
Jolly | Swarm
~ Substitute
~ Reversal
~ Megahorn
~ HP Flying/Rock Slide/Earthquake

Not sure about the last move, but nonetheless, he and my Umbreon = Blissey killer.

{houndoom} @ Leftovers
Modest | Flash Fire
~ Crunch
~ FLamethrower
~ HP Grass
~ Pursuit

Pursuit is for those evil Celebis who switch when they see a Houndoom. Hehe.

Any suggestions?

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Rayquazard - just the rock slide. And possibly Calm Mind on Kygre (relearner in fallarbor)


fizzmatic wrote:
I'm new.
Here's my Emerald party:

Rayquaza (lv .88) with Dragon Fang
Lonely
Fly
Dragon Claw
Hyper Beam
Outrage
Ugg, no. Outrage causes confusion. And you have another dragon move. Go with Dragon Dance, instead. Fly is a horrid move. Go with Aerial Ace. Hyper Beam is a guaranteed "waste a turn", so go with Return instead.

Ampharos (lv. 50) with Magnet
Modest
Thunder Wave
Thunder Bolt
Light Scree
Thunder Shock
Go with brick break > Thunder shock. Not much else without tutors :( If you can go with tutors, Fire punch.

Gardevoir (lv. 40) with Twistedspoon
Calm
Calm Mind
Psychic
Confusion
Imprison
T-bolt > Confusion, Hypnosis > Imprison. So you can power up safely.

Latios (lv. 50) with Leftovers
Naive
Dragon Claw
Ice Beam
Luster Purge
Psychic
Calm Mind > Luster purge. T-bolt > Dragon Claw (bolt-beam has more coverage than claw-beam)

Blaziken (lv.100) with Charcoal
Impish
Sky Uppercut
Blaze Kick
Slah
Dig
@Scope Lens, Focus Energy > Dig. Or, @Leftovers/shell bell, Flamethrower > Blaze Kick, Swords Dance > Slash, Rock Slide > Dig. Hits lots of types.

Aggron (lv. 43) with King's Rock
Relaxed
Iron Tail
Rock Smash
Metal Claw
Take Down
Its got rock-head ability? Double Edge, EQ, Rock Slide, Return/T-wave/Metal Claw.

I use Latios and Ampharos mainly in the Battle Frontier. They have won me two rounds at the battle tower, two rounds at the battle dome, one round at the battle palace and one round at the battle pike. This party normally wins me matches against my friends' partys.


I'm extremely tired and busy. So, list rates :D

Rayquazard:
Latios: Calm Mind, Dragon Claw, Psychic, Safeguard. Or, T-bolt and ICe beam > Psychic and dragon claw.
Flygon: Sunny Day, Solar Beam, Flamethrower (you want consistency), and Crunch. Or, EQ, Aerial Ace, Rock Slide, Quick Attack/Fire Blast. Special vs. Mixed/Physical sweeping.
Aggron: EQ, Rock Slide, Double Edge, Metal Claw/T-wave/Brick Break. Really your choice. Remember, Rock Head ability.


bushin - welcome back.
Linoone: Sub-flail, not bad. Tempted to say endure, but whatever. Looks good.
Blissey: No. Softboiled is an absolute must for Blissey. Softbolied, Aromatherapy, T-wave (paralysis support), and Seismic Toss.
Dusclops: Very good.
Ludicolo: I would like Dive > Surf, so you evade the attack that turn. Calm nature.
Metagross: Very good. Try trading it to emerald, and use those berries.
Gengar: Hypnosis/Substitute and Focus Punch > HP Dark and Snatch (you must have worked so hard for HP Dark). McIceGar is a god, trust me.
Jynx: Calm Mind > Perish Song. Possible Substitute > Mean Look. Either Sub or Psychic. Though Luna is very nice. Modest nature, the few Def points won't help, sorry.
Kyogre: Surf > Hydro Pump. @Lefties or Shell Bell.
Don't lead with Linoone. too dangerous for you.


Purple Summer:
Blaziken: @Scope Lens, Focus Energy > Dig. Or, @Leftovers/shell bell, Flamethrower > Blaze Kick, Swords Dance > Slash, Rock Slide > Dig. Hits lots of types.
Mightyenna: No. Poison Fang and Shadow Ball > Crunch and Rock Smash. Howl > Theif.
Raichu: T-bolt, T-wave, HP Ice/Grass, Substitute. Make it a Pikachu @Lightball, better special attack, which is what matters. You could try T-wave, Sweet Kiss, Attract, and T-wave as an annoyer.
Swellow: Aerial Ace, Return, Facade, Steel Wing. @Choice Band. CB + Guts + Status + Facade = INSTANT DEATH MACHINE!!!!
Azumarill: Huge Power Ability. Defense Curl, Rollout, Substitute, Focus Punch. Curl up just before rollout (increases power), Sub-punch is proven.

the davebabe:
Lanturn: Good. Calm Nature Would be better, though. Don't change the moves.
Ludicolo: Dive > Giga Drain. 5 PP (8 after pp ups) isn't enough. Not for this one that will stay.
Blissey: Looks good.
Umbreon: I'd go with Double Team > Toxic or Baton Pass. If you get rid of baton pass, you will have more staying power as a toxi-trapper. If you get rid of toxic, you can fend off pseudo-hazers. Personally, I'd go with > Baton Pass.
Heracross: Swords Dance > Last spot, endure > substitute. Substitute won't really do much, ans you will be instantly dispersed. Swords Dance, then when there's a big hit, endure, and reverse.
Houndoom: You won't be pursuiting Celebis, only exeggcutors. I'd go with Sunny Day + Solar Beam > HP Grass + Pursuit. Efficient Killer that has remained since GSC.


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Thanks, but my Azumarill doesn't have Huge Power... Is there anything for Thick Fat?


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Salamence lvl.59-Exp.Share

Dragon claw
Fly
Dragon dance
Aerial ace

Sceptile lvl.71-Miracle Seed

Leaf blade
Dragon claw
Secret power
Solarbeam

Latios lvl.71-Soul Dew

Thunder
Luster purge
Psychic
Dragonbreath

Kyogre lvl.83-Mystic water

Hydro pump
Waterfall
Water spout
Surf

Groudon lvl.84-Amulet Coin

Fire blast
Eruption
Earthquake
Solarbeam

Raquaza lvl.83-Perism Berry

Fly
Hyper beam
Outrage
Crunch

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thanks for the comments, but ive decided to change my team a bit after playing on netbattle.

i gave lanturn bold an maxed is def EVs so he can survive more EQs.

my stragety is to inflict as many status ailments as possible, so as to bring out their blissey if they have one. then ill switch in umbreon, mean look, and pass to heracross.

ive tried using dugtrio with his arena trap but his attack is too low.

there r a cuple of things i think i still need, a physical sponge, a spiker and a spinner.

suggestions?

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This is my current team from LG:


{venusaur} - Naive
- Magical Leaf
- Sludge Bomb (I ditched H.P. due its very low base power)
- Synthesis
- Sleep Powder

{starmie} - Modest
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Recover

{gengar} - Quirky
- Psychic
- Shadow Ball
- Will-o-Wisp
- Mean Look

{tyranitar} - Adamant
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Aerial Ace

{dragonite} - Modest
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Thunder Wave

{forretress} - Careful
- Earthquake
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Explosion


Why Naive? Venusaur has the excuse for being shiny hehe. I am not sure about the moveset for Dragonite. It has a wide movepool, but Starmie and Tyranitar have covered pretty much most of it, so I don't know what moves to teach it apart from Flamethrower, Dragon Claw and Thunder Wave. Is there a better alternative than Thunderbolt?

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Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:43 am
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Regice
Careful
EV's, 252 Sp. Def, 252 Sp.Atk and 4 HP
Ice Beam
Amnesia
Lock-On
Zap Cannon

Tyranitar
Docile (Need help with nature. What is +Def -Sp. Def?)
EV's, 252 Atk, 252 Def and 4 Spd
Crunch
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Screech

Rayquaza
Relaxed
EV's, 252 Sp.Def, 252 Sp. Atk and 4 Atk
Aerial Ace
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Flamethrower/Extremespeed (Need help here)

Celebi
Modest
EV's, 252 Sp. Atk, 252 HP and 4 Spd
Leech Seed
Recover
Psychic
Giga Drain/Calm Mind (Need help here too)

Groudon
Quirky
EV's, 252 Atk, 252 Spd and 4 Sp. Def
Earthquake
Swords Dance
Rock Slide
Thunderbolt

Blaziken
Hasty
EV's, 252 Spd, 252 HP and 4 Sp. Atk
Flamethrower
Bulk Up
Substitute
Focus Punch

Please rate my team and help me.

Then: :D One more thing, I was thinking of having Celebi learn safeguard and Baton Pass, then making Rayquaza learn Outrage. I'm not sure about this, what are your thoughts?

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Im training my team in Fr to take on the Elite Four and if people can give me suggestions for my team then that would be kinda helpful,and places to train them.I also need one last pokemon to add to my team.

If this is in the wrong place can you move it,or tell me where to put it next time.

Current Team

{blastoise} Lv. 40
Docile Nature
Surf
Water Pulse
Hydro Cannon
Rapid Spin

{pidgeot} Lv. 36
Lax Nature
Fly
Aerial Ace
Wing Attack
Quyick Attack

{kadabra} Lv.41
Quiet Nature
Psychic
Psybeam
Future Sight
Recover

{snorlax} Lv. 35
Sassy Nature
Body Slam
Yawn
Rest
Snore

{dragonair} Lv.32
Careful Nature
Dragon Rage
Twister
Thunder Wave
Slam


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Now I have my team very close from the definitive. I'll post their stats, dvs and ev spread. As my last pokemon I will put Metagross, but soon it will be replaced by Registeel, which I will post later when I get one with good DVs.
{tentacruel} *Cruely* @ Leftovers, Careful (for battle palace)
evs: 252 spd | 6 sa | 252 sd
dvs: hp-22 | atk-12 | def-28 | spd-25 | sa-13 | sd-22
stats: 292 | 157 | 163 | 293 | 161 | 363
-Dive
-Toxic
-Barrier
-Confuse Ray

{azumarill} *Phantom* (from The Phantom of the Opera xD) @ Lum berry, Adamant
evs: 252 hp | 252 atk | | 6 sd
dvs: hp-27 | atk-28 | def-2 | spd-3 | sa-25 | sd-27
stats: 400 | 430 | 167 | 108 | 117 | 193
-Focus punch
-Substitute
-Rest
-Iron tail

{swampert} *Saul* @Chesto berry , Sassy
evs: 100 atk | 156 def | | 252 sd
dvs: hp-25 | atk-12 | def-10 | spd-25 | sa- 25 | sd-17
stats: 335 | 262 | 234 | 135 | 200 | 279
-Curse
-Rest
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide

{milotic} *Glaerd* @Leftovers, Modest
evs: 152 def | | 148 sa | 208 sd
dvs: hp-31 | atk-21 | def-20 | spd- 30 | sa-31 | sd- 24
stats: 331 | 131 | 221 | 197 | 300 | 331
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Dragonbreath
-Recover

{latios} *Jack bauer* @Focus Band/Starf berry, Modest
evs: hp 6 | |spd 252| sa 252
dvs: hp-31| atk-17 | def- 11| spd-19 | sa-25 | sd-13
stats: 302 | 181 | 176 | 307 | 388 | 238
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Calm Mind
-Recover

{metagross} @ Lum berry, Brave
evs: atk 252| def 128 | | sd 128
dvs: hp-29 | atk-13 | def 17 | spd 31 | sa 5 | sd-21
stats: 299 | 386 | 314 | 158 | 200 | 228
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide

Some held items are different because I use this team mainly at the Frontier, of course I do not use, for example, Milotic and Tentacruel together, nor Azumarill and Metagross. So I cannot have all of them holding lefties, but any options will be accepted^^

By the way, this is the Registeel I intend using:
{registeel} @ Lum/Chesto/Lefties, Careful
evs: 252 hp, 6 def, 252 sd
-Seismic Toss
-Thunder Wave
-Rest
-Iron Defense

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Salamence :

Earthquake
Fly
Dragon Claw
Dragonbreath

Blaziken :

Double Kick
Slash
Blaze Kick
Flamethrower

Kadabra :

Shadow Ball
Psychich
Flash - Replacement
Psybeam

Sharpedo :

Crunch
Surf
Ice Beam
Slash

Raichu :

Thunder
Shock Wave
Slam
Thunderbolt

Persian : Recently Added to team.

Scratch
Faint Attack
Bite
Pay Day

Im looking for advise on how to improve this team or what pokemon to replace with others. Please assist.


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Wow, I haven't been here for a LOOOOONNGGG time. Not a lot's happened, I see. Only one page.

Anyways, I've been rethinking my BF team, due to the fact that two of my members ({swampert} and {salamence}) had quadruple weaknesses, which were often taken advantage of.

So, this is what I thought up.
Note: This is PKMN Emerald, but I have Chansey, Larvitar, Mantine, Misdreavus, Squirtle, Charizard, Ivysaur, Chikorita and Eevee from a bit of trading from Leaf Green and Colosseum. I also have most of the common TMs (A-ace, EQ, etc.) and all stones besides Sun Stone. All PKMN will be LV. 50.

{salamence} Adamant @ Lum/Shell Bell?
20 HP, 252 Atk, 48 Def, 48 Sp. Def, 140 Spd
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Brick Break
Aerial Ace

Physical Sweeper

{vaporeon} Modest @ Leftovers
124 HP, 100 Def, 176 Sp. Atk, 56 Sp. Def, 52 Spd
Surf
Ice Beam
Bite
Wish

Special Sweeper/ (Special) Tank

{gardevoir} Modest @ ???
(There wasn't anything in the Psydex for this moveset, so I guess)
252 sp. atk, 252 spd, 6 def
EDIT: Ok, I found better EVs: 252 spd, 224 sp. atk, 32 Sp. Def
Psychic
Will-o-wisp
EDIT: Because of my new EVs, I'm replacing with Calm Mind.
Thunderbolt
Fire Punch

Special Sweeper/Speical Tank

Using the moves above I can cover every single type. However, I wanna make a full party including these PKMN, so what PKMN would you suggest? Here are some hints to what I'm thinking about for the last 3:

-no more than 1 physical wall
-no more than 1 special sweeper
-1 physical sweeper
-annoyers, drainers, toxi-trappers, toxi-tanks welcome but no more than 2
-no more than 1 special wall
-no baton passers or sub-ers
-1 Electric type
-no 4x weaknesses
-only one pokémon to share another's weakness
-1 Pokémon that can utilize a dark damaging move
-no more than 1 ghost type

Yeah, I know I sound picky but I'm trying to be <s>paranoid</s> careful, I've failed 3 teams.

Thanks in advance.

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After beating the elite four for the first time I have changed my team ready for the next battle with them. Here are the changed movesets.

{tyranitar}
rockslide
dragon dance
crunch
EQ/brickbreak

{skarmory}
thunderbolt
steel wing
toxic
spikes
P.S I have no aerial ace TM

{mewtwo}
psychic
recover
calm mind
flamethrower

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PurpleSummer - Not really. Azumarill has a very shallow move pool.

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Salamence lvl.59-Exp.Share

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Fly
Dragon dance
Aerial ace
You have aerial ace - why fly? Also, if this is physical salamence, why dragon claw? EQ + Rock Slide > Dragon Claw + Fly.

Sceptile lvl.71-Miracle Seed

Leaf blade
Dragon claw
Secret power
Solarbeam
Leaf Blade does more than solar beam per turn. Secret Power is physical. Crunch > Secret Power, T-punch/Leech Seed > Solar beam. @Leftovers/Lum Berry.

Latios lvl.71-Soul Dew

Thunder
Luster purge
Psychic
Dragonbreath
Calm Mind > Luster Purge. Kyogre in front. Good work with Soul Dew.

Kyogre lvl.83-Mystic water

Hydro pump
Waterfall
Water spout
Surf
Surf is enough. Then go with Ice Beam, Thunder, and Calm Mind. That is Ky00ber, don't tamper unless you know what you are doing.

Groudon lvl.84-Amulet Coin

Fire blast
Eruption
Earthquake
Solarbeam
Atk stat > Sp.Atk stat. Swords Dance, EQ, Rock Slide, Flamethrower (skarmory/forretress)/Aerial Ace (Grasses, Fighters). @Leftovers.

Raquaza lvl.83-Perism Berry

Fly
Hyper beam
Outrage
Crunch
@Leftovers. T-bolt, Ice Beam, Earthquake, Crunch. Hits alot super effectively.


the davebabe -
1.) Dugtrio has very good attack. I don't know what you are talking about. Maybe you have bad DVs? Adamant is the preffered nature.
2.) Spiker, Spinner, Physical Sponge - Forretress is good.


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Wai
Venusaur: Curse > Razor Leaf, maybe leech seed > synthesis? otherwise, you're good.
Starmie: Good, no changes.
Gengar: Not a defensive pokemon, trust me. Mean Look + W-o-W, and then die. Won't survive. T-bolt, Psyhchic are good. Put on ice punch and giga drain/confuse-ray in the last spots.
T-tar: Good.
Dragonite: Good Special-nite. Maybe ice beam > t-bolt?
Forretress: Try to get impish nature, please.

meganiumaster
Regice: You will do more damage with t-bolt and t-wave > lock-on + zap cannon. Psych-Up > Amnesia (maybe catch a calm mind?). Calm Nature is preffered, with no Sp.Def EVs - only in Sp.Attack and Phys.Def.
Tyranitar: Dragon Dance > Screech, so you boost your attack and speed. Aerial Ace > Crunch, keep it physical. Impish is +Def, -Sp.Atk, Adamant is +Atk, -Sp.Atk.
Rayquaza - Extremespeed is definate. Dragon Dance and Aerial Ace are good. Go with earthquake or brick break for rock and steels. Jolly (+Speed, -Sp.Atk) or Adamant nature. NO OUTRAGE - DRAGON CLAW WOULD BE BETTER
Celebi - Calm Mind in the last spot. Baton Pass > Leech Seed/Psychic..
Groudon: Adamnt, not quirky is prefferable. Aerial Ace/Brick Break/Fire Blast > T-bolt.
Blaziken: Let me tell you from experience - it is a horrible sup-puncher. Swords Dance > Bulk Up. Rock Slide > Substitute (Flyers). Sky Uppercut > Focus Punch

TheKid
Blastoise: Skull Bash > Water Pulse. Ice Beam > Hydro Cannon. Modest would have been better, but docile's okay.
Pidgeot: Switch to dodrio, it will save you a lot.
Alakazam: Reflect > Psybeam, Calm Mind > Future Sight. You need to stick around, so reflect is in there. Calm Mind pumps you up.
Snorlax: Shadow Ball > Snore. So you deal with agatha a bit more.
Dragonite: T-bolt, Ice Beam, Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Dragon Claw. T-wave could go in somewhere.

More within an hour

ChampionWallace
Tentacruel: Timid, 128 Speed, 128 Sp.Atk.
Azumarill: Defense Curl + Rollout > Rest + Iron Tail. Hit flyers too.
Swampert: Looks good, @Leftovers, though. Not really sassy: Impish (+Def), Careful (+SpDef), or Adamant (+Atk)
Milotic: Rest + Sleep Tallkl > Recover + Dragon Breath. STalking allows you to take advantage of Marvel Scale. Dragon Breath doesn't take on too many types (just dragon).
Latios: Starf is better, I think. Is Starf the one that raises 2 random stats, or the critical hit ratio? If its th 2-stat one, go with it. Or leftovers
Metagross: @Leftovers, Adamant nature. Fine otherwise.
Registeel: Looks good. @Lefotvers.

Borador
Salamence: Aerial Ace > Fly. Dragon Dance > Dragon Claw. Rock Slide > Dragonbreath. Keep it physical.
Blaziken: Sky Uppercut > Double Kick. More power.
Focus Energy > Flamethrower, (critiken)
or
rock slide > slash and bulk up > blaze kick. (normal)
Kadabra: Evolve to alakazam please. Psychic is good, Shadow ball is based on physical attack, so no, psybeam is just an inferior psychic. Recover, and two of the following instead: Calm Mind, Thunderpunch, Ice Punch, Fire Punch, Reflect. Calm mind to power up, elemental punches for more versatility, Reflect for staying.
Sharpedo: EQ > Slash. Much more powerful.
Raichu: T-bolt is good. T-wave > shock wave (will you use shock wave with the superior t-bolt?), Attract > Thunder (too inaccurate), Sweet Kiss > Slam, for confusion. Great annoyer.
Persian: Return/Body Slam, Shadow Ball, Screech, and hypnosis is the standard.
Just replace sharpedo witha walrein. Thats all I can think of.

elite42
Salamence: @Shell Bell.
Vaporeon: Acid Armor > Bite, for the defense boost. Pull the EVs out of defense and put into Sp. def.
Gardevoir: Ice Punch > Fire punch (mini bolt-beam)

Skarmory (Spiker, Physical Wall)
Houndoom (Crunch, Sunnybeam)
Lanturn: T-wave, Confuse Ray, Attract, t-bolt
btw, salamence has a 4x ice weakness.

Sum_1
Tyranitar: Aerial Ace/Brick Break > Crunch. EQ needs to be there.
Skarmory: T-bolt? T-BOLT?????? I thought you were smart enough to realize skarms has as horrid Sp.Atk. Anyway, Breed for Drill Peck > Steel wing, keep spikes, keep toxic, keep steel wing.
Mewtwo: Looks good.


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Wai wrote:
{forretress} - Careful
- Earthquake
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Explosion

I've just got some questions regarding my Forretress. Is a fire attack likely to kill Forretress even if I give it 252 EVs to its Sp. Defence? It is bound to attack last (the DV calculator said it had a DV of 0 or 1 for speed), but all other stats have DVs above 23. I was planning to even out both its HP and Defence stats as 309 with a max Sp. Defence stat of 227.

I'm just curious why people really max out its Defence even though it's already very high, but don't put much emphasis on Sp. Defence to help it resist other special attacks such as water or electric (not just fire). Or, have people using Forretress experienced mostly physical attacks against it, and therefore max out the Defence stat?

I was thinking about it this way, with the exception of Attack and Sp. Attack and also Speed in this case (since it sucks anyway). If you were good at English and Chemistry at school, you wouldn't just study English and Chemistry and leave your other subjects behind. Wouldn't it be better to try balance them out a little?

I've also considered giving it Toxic, but most people recommend the standard moveset I've got. What do you guys think?

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"Peanut-Lover"
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TheKid
Blastoise: Skull Bash > Water Pulse. Ice Beam > Hydro Cannon. Modest would have been better, but docile's okay.
Pidgeot: Switch to dodrio, it will save you a lot.
Alakazam: Reflect > Psybeam, Calm Mind > Future Sight. You need to stick around, so reflect is in there. Calm Mind pumps you up.
Snorlax: Shadow Ball > Snore. So you deal with agatha a bit more.
Dragonite: T-bolt, Ice Beam, Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Dragon Claw. T-wave could go in somewhere.



Thanks Peanut-Lover but I sorta read this late.
This is my team now though:
{blastoise}
Docile Nature
Surf
Water Pulse
Hydro Cannon
Skull Bash

{kadabra}
Quiet Nature
Psychic
Psybeam
Shadowball
Recover

{raikou}
Timid Nature
Spark
Thunderbolt
Crunch
Quick Attack

{raichu}
Docile Nature
Thunderbolt
Shockwave
Quick Attack
Mega Kick

{aerodactyl}(Still training)
Careful Nature
Bite
Double Edge
Fly
Ancient Power

{dragonite}
Careful Nature
Wing Attack
Ice Beam
Dragon Claw
Earthquake

P.S. I am also trying to build a team using only Pokemon revived from fossils if any one knows any movesets and what not can you tell me and a final Pokemon to go with that team seeing as there are only 5 Fossil Pokemon that are available in FR and RS.


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TheKid wrote:
"Peanut-Lover"
Quote:

TheKid
Blastoise: Skull Bash > Water Pulse. Ice Beam > Hydro Cannon. Modest would have been better, but docile's okay.
Pidgeot: Switch to dodrio, it will save you a lot.
Alakazam: Reflect > Psybeam, Calm Mind > Future Sight. You need to stick around, so reflect is in there. Calm Mind pumps you up.
Snorlax: Shadow Ball > Snore. So you deal with agatha a bit more.
Dragonite: T-bolt, Ice Beam, Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Dragon Claw. T-wave could go in somewhere.


lol haven't done this in a long time.


Thanks Peanut-Lover but I sorta read this late.
This is my team now though:
{blastoise}
Docile Nature
Surf
Water Pulse
Hydro Cannon
Skull Bash

Surf is the only move that has to stay. Replace Water Pulse with Earth Quake. Then use Ice Beam for SK Bash, last move could be Rest for H-Cannon. Item should be @Chesto Berry.

{kadabra}
Quiet Nature
Psychic
Psybeam
Shadowball
Recover

First of all evolve please. Thunder Punch for Psybeam and Fire or Ice Punch for Shadow Ball.

{raikou}
Timid Nature
Spark
Thunderbolt
Crunch
Quick Attack

Reflect for Quick Attack, and Light Screen for Spark.

{raichu}
Docile Nature
Thunderbolt
Shockwave
Quick Attack
Mega Kick

First breed and get a Pichu. Next teach it T-Bolt, T-Wave, Attract, and Sweet Kiss.

{aerodactyl}(Still training)
Careful Nature
Bite
Double Edge
Fly
Ancient Power

OK use Earth Quake for Bite, Steel Wing for D-Edge, and Aerial Ace for Fly.

{dragonite}
Careful Nature
Wing Attack
Ice Beam
Dragon Claw
Earthquake

Seems ok for mixed sweeping.

P.S. I am also trying to build a team using only Pokemon revived from fossils if any one knows any movesets and what not can you tell me and a final Pokemon to go with that team seeing as there are only 5 Fossil Pokemon that are available in FR and RS.


No. Why because all fossil Pokemon have one same type in common and that is Rock, thus not really giving you much type coverage.

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Pokemaniac wrote:
TheKid wrote:
"Peanut-Lover"
Quote:

TheKid
Blastoise: Skull Bash > Water Pulse. Ice Beam > Hydro Cannon. Modest would have been better, but docile's okay.
Pidgeot: Switch to dodrio, it will save you a lot.
Alakazam: Reflect > Psybeam, Calm Mind > Future Sight. You need to stick around, so reflect is in there. Calm Mind pumps you up.
Snorlax: Shadow Ball > Snore. So you deal with agatha a bit more.
Dragonite: T-bolt, Ice Beam, Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Dragon Claw. T-wave could go in somewhere.


lol haven't done this in a long time.


Thanks Peanut-Lover but I sorta read this late.
This is my team now though:
{blastoise}
Docile Nature
Surf
Water Pulse
Hydro Cannon
Skull Bash

Surf is the only move that has to stay. Replace Water Pulse with Earth Quake. Then use Ice Beam for SK Bash, last move could be Rest for H-Cannon. Item should be @Chesto Berry.

{kadabra}
Quiet Nature
Psychic
Psybeam
Shadowball
Recover

First of all evolve please. Thunder Punch for Psybeam and Fire or Ice Punch for Shadow Ball.

{raikou}
Timid Nature
Spark
Thunderbolt
Crunch
Quick Attack

Reflect for Quick Attack, and Light Screen for Spark.

{raichu}
Docile Nature
Thunderbolt
Shockwave
Quick Attack
Mega Kick

First breed and get a Pichu. Next teach it T-Bolt, T-Wave, Attract, and Sweet Kiss.

{aerodactyl}(Still training)
Careful Nature
Bite
Double Edge
Fly
Ancient Power

OK use Earth Quake for Bite, Steel Wing for D-Edge, and Aerial Ace for Fly.

{dragonite}
Careful Nature
Wing Attack
Ice Beam
Dragon Claw
Earthquake

Seems ok for mixed sweeping.

P.S. I am also trying to build a team using only Pokemon revived from fossils if any one knows any movesets and what not can you tell me and a final Pokemon to go with that team seeing as there are only 5 Fossil Pokemon that are available in FR and RS.


No. Why because all fossil Pokemon have one same type in common and that is Rock, thus not really giving you much type coverage.


Thanks but how do I get more Earthquake TM's,and how does Alakazam(Yes I evolved him) learn the Punches?


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elite42 wrote:

So, this is what I thought up.
Note: This is PKMN Emerald, but I have Chansey, Larvitar, Mantine, Misdreavus, Squirtle, Charizard, Ivysaur, Chikorita and Eevee from a bit of trading from Leaf Green and Colosseum. I also have most of the common TMs (A-ace, EQ, etc.) and all stones besides Sun Stone. All PKMN will be LV. 50.

{salamence} Adamant @ <s>Lum</s>/Shell Bell?
20 HP, 252 Atk, 48 Def, 48 Sp. Def, 140 Spd
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Brick Break
Aerial Ace

Physical Sweeper

{vaporeon} Modest @ Leftovers
124 HP, 100 Def, 176 Sp. Atk, 56 Sp. Def, 52 Spd
Surf
Ice Beam
<s>Bite</s> Acid Armour
Wish

Special Sweeper/ (Special) Tank

{gardevoir} Modest @ ???
(There wasn't anything in the Psydex for this moveset, so I guess)
<s>252 sp. atk, 252 spd, 6 def</s> 252 spd, 224 sp. atk, 32 Sp. Def
Psychic
<s>Will-o-wisp</s> Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
<s>Fire Punch</s> Ice Punch

Special Sweeper/Speical Tank

Using the moves above I can cover every single type. However, I wanna make a full party including these PKMN, so what PKMN would you suggest?


Well anyways, I completely disobeyed the previous rate :P because I thought something up myself. I also ignored my previous intentions. Thought it would be semi-helpful, the above are just for reference and do not NEED to be full-rated, only for overall versatility.

So here's the rest (note they are also lv 50):

{metagross} Adamant @ CB
EVs: 252 atk, 252 spd, 6 sp. def
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Sludge Bomb
Shadow Ball/Rock Slide/???

Classic CBgross

{absol} Jolly @ Sitrus (I don't see a way to get Salac, so this is to survive longer)
EVs: 44 hp, 180 atk, 8 def, 8 sp. def, 252 spd
Swords Dance
Baton Pass
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide

Physical Sweeper/Baton Passer
NOTE: You can choose the PKMN you want to Baton Pass to, right?

{charizard} Adamant @ Lum/SB
EVs: 132 atk, 124 sp. atk, 252 spd
Swords Dance
Fire Blast
Aerial Ace
Earthquake

Physical Sweeper with Fire Blast for back-up
NOTE: I'm not sure if the Attack EVs are still necessary since Swords Dance doubles my attack.

Please rate the three as well as overall versatility of all 6.

Thx in advance.

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