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Dussel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 2:14 pm Posts: 103 Location: You would'nt beleive me if i told you
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I have a mismagius, i was intending for it to be a Special sweeper. So I went to the Old Cheatou.
My mismagius has a Bold nature with PKrus and a macho brace and is lv 68
and its SP. Attack is 169 and is now 172 at lv 69
I trained it on ghastly and haunter in the cheatou, they give SP. Attack EV's
I killed 35 ghastly and leveled up, but guess what? NO EV's
Why'd it do this? and where should i train now?
Do i have to breed my mismagius?! WAAAAH im so confused!
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:58 pm |
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Pibb Master
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Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 7:24 pm Posts: 32
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Dussel wrote: I have a mismagius, i was intending for it to be a Special sweeper. So I went to the Old Cheatou.
My mismagius has a Bold nature with PKrus and a macho brace and is lv 68
and its SP. Attack is 169 and is now 172 at lv 69
I trained it on ghastly and haunter in the cheatou, they give SP. Attack EV's
I killed 35 ghastly and leveled up, but guess what? NO EV's
Why'd it do this? and where should i train now? Lettssee Evs will show at lvl 100 just maybe not RIGHT AWAY and its best to EV train when its lvl 5-20
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:09 pm |
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Dussel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 2:14 pm Posts: 103 Location: You would'nt beleive me if i told you
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Pibb Master wrote: Dussel wrote: I have a mismagius, i was intending for it to be a Special sweeper. So I went to the Old Cheatou.
My mismagius has a Bold nature with PKrus and a macho brace and is lv 68
and its SP. Attack is 169 and is now 172 at lv 69
I trained it on ghastly and haunter in the cheatou, they give SP. Attack EV's
I killed 35 ghastly and leveled up, but guess what? NO EV's
Why'd it do this? and where should i train now? Lettssee Evs will show at lvl 100 just maybe not RIGHT AWAY and its best to EV train when its lvl 5-20
I was EV training my level 60 Dusknoir, it's EV's for SP DEF and DEF went over 10 when i was EV-... Me has idea, should i Train at the haunters in Turnback cave?
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:11 pm |
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ShadowTyranitar
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun May 06, 2007 5:12 pm Posts: 214 Location: Realgam Tower
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Pibb Master wrote: Dussel wrote: I have a mismagius, i was intending for it to be a Special sweeper. So I went to the Old Cheatou.
My mismagius has a Bold nature with PKrus and a macho brace and is lv 68
and its SP. Attack is 169 and is now 172 at lv 69
I trained it on ghastly and haunter in the cheatou, they give SP. Attack EV's
I killed 35 ghastly and leveled up, but guess what? NO EV's
Why'd it do this? and where should i train now? Lettssee Evs will show at lvl 100 just maybe not RIGHT AWAY and its best to EV train when its lvl 5-20 .....Yeah....or the EVs on his Mismagius is already maxed out.
You'll probably wanna get a new Mismagius.
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:11 pm |
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Pibb Master
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 7:24 pm Posts: 32
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ShadowTyranitar wrote: Pibb Master wrote: Dussel wrote: I have a mismagius, i was intending for it to be a Special sweeper. So I went to the Old Cheatou.
My mismagius has a Bold nature with PKrus and a macho brace and is lv 68
and its SP. Attack is 169 and is now 172 at lv 69
I trained it on ghastly and haunter in the cheatou, they give SP. Attack EV's
I killed 35 ghastly and leveled up, but guess what? NO EV's
Why'd it do this? and where should i train now? Lettssee Evs will show at lvl 100 just maybe not RIGHT AWAY and its best to EV train when its lvl 5-20 .....Yeah....or the EVs on his Mismagius is already maxed out.
You'll probably wanna get a new Mismagius. that might be true Quote: I was EV training my level 60 Dusknoir, it's EV's for SP DEF and DEF went over 10 when i was EV-... Me has idea, should i Train at the haunters in Turnback cave? trainin on different lvls of the same pokemon doest affect the EVs you get
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:18 pm |
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DWU
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Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:59 pm Posts: 9 Location: Seattle
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I find that the best place to EV train for Sp. Attack is the water right in front of turnback cave where you get giratina. There is nothing but golducks in the water and each gives 2 sp att EVs. give your lower level pokemon an exp. share and pokerus (if you can) and you are set.
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:13 pm |
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Dussel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 2:14 pm Posts: 103 Location: You would'nt beleive me if i told you
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DWU wrote: I find that the best place to EV train for Sp. Attack is the water right in front of turnback cave where you get giratina. There is nothing but golducks in the water and each gives 2 sp att EVs. give your lower level pokemon an exp. share and pokerus (if you can) and you are set.
Im breeding a Misdreavus in LFG right now
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:22 pm |
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airman33
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Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:36 pm Posts: 251 Location: Why you wanna know?
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Yeah like most people say it is best to EV train from the start makes it easy you know?
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:01 pm |
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Dussel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 2:14 pm Posts: 103 Location: You would'nt beleive me if i told you
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Im now training a misdreavus... i evolved nit at level 30 to a mismagius, now im training at golducks... NO EV's! WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON?!
I EVEN CHECKED THE NATURE!!! AND THE IV'S!!!
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:37 pm |
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FaceLess
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Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:59 pm Posts: 399
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Dussel wrote: Im now training a misdreavus... i evolved nit at level 30 to a mismagius, now im training at golducks... NO EV's! WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON?!
I EVEN CHECKED THE NATURE!!! AND THE IV'S!!! Y'know the max evs it can get is 510.
So if you've knocked out a couple hundred pokemon by level 30 your evs maxed out.
Also evs don't reveal themself all at once, they have a limit based on your level.
If a level 99 pokemon gets al it's evs at that level then levels up it'll gain over 120 additional points.
If you get all the points early they'll appear much more gradually.
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:40 pm |
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Dussel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 2:14 pm Posts: 103 Location: You would'nt beleive me if i told you
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FaceLess wrote: Dussel wrote: Im now training a misdreavus... i evolved nit at level 30 to a mismagius, now im training at golducks... NO EV's! WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON?!
I EVEN CHECKED THE NATURE!!! AND THE IV'S!!! Y'know the max evs it can get is 510.
So if you've knocked out a couple hundred pokemon by level 30 your evs maxed out.
Also evs don't reveal themself all at once, they have a limit based on your level.
If a level 99 pokemon gets al it's evs at that level then levels up it'll gain over 120 additional points.
If you get all the points early they'll appear much more gradually.
If a level 99 pokemon gets al it's evs at that level then levels up it'll gain over 120 additional points.
._. i REALLY wish someone pointed that out a bit earlier
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:51 pm |
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Ghost Writer
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Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:45 pm Posts: 382 Location: Searching for the place all the Abra teleport to. I'm going to crash their party.
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This is the wrong place, I know, but I'm also having the same problem with my Lucario.
I'm EV training for speed, so it can get a strong attack off before somebody KO's it with Earthquake(you'd be surprised how many Pokemon can learn Earthquake )
So, somebody told me you can get Speed EV's from Starly, so I've probably KO'd almost two hundred of those suckers, but everytime Lucario gains a level, nothing shows.
So either my source is wrong, or I'm just being paranoid.
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:53 pm |
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OriGinaL
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Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 9:27 am Posts: 186
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Elemental, your EVs are probably maxed out. You can get up to 510 Evs. Every 4 of the same kind give you a stat increase in said stat. If you already have a Lucario chances are you've used it in battling before and therefore have gained EVs.
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:56 pm |
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Ghost Writer
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Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:45 pm Posts: 382 Location: Searching for the place all the Abra teleport to. I'm going to crash their party.
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Actually, I just evolved it today from a level 10 Riolu, but thanks. I guess I should raise it past thirty Thanks. Hey! It just gained six speed stats! I guess it's working...
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Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:09 pm |
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Akira
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Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:17 pm Posts: 13 Location: Obviously, somewhere.
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See, EVs are usually only visible when the Pokemon get to level 100. Yes, they tend to show up as the Pokemon levels up, but a majority of those hidden points come out when they level from 99 to 100, like Faceless said. That's why many people who seriously EV train have access to a large amount of Rare Candies, so when they finish EV training, they can Candy their way to 100 so they can reap the real benefits of their EVs.
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Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:13 pm |
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Dussel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 2:14 pm Posts: 103 Location: You would'nt beleive me if i told you
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Akira wrote: See, EVs are usually only visible when the Pokemon get to level 100. Yes, they tend to show up as the Pokemon levels up, but a majority of those hidden points come out when they level from 99 to 100, like Faceless said. That's why many people who seriously EV train have access to a large amount of Rare Candies, so when they finish EV training, they can Candy their way to 100 so they can reap the real benefits of their EVs.
I have a level 70 dusknoir, i was training it from level 52 to 70 on tentacreuls and gravelers for the Def EV's
heres what i saw each time on the level ups
Attack+3
Defense+10
Sp Attack+2
Sp Def+11
Speed+1
:3 so, what your saying is that EV's WILL show up sometimes when leveling, but the REAL EV's appear at the level up at lv 99?
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Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:07 pm |
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Bobsymalone
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:42 pm Posts: 60
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EVs are hidden values that you won't see or hear about ingame. Your stats are NOT your EVs. Your EVs influence your stats.
Any pokemon that gives experience points gives you EVs (so battle tower pokemon don't give EVs).
A pokemon can only have a total of 510 EVs. And the maximum amount of EVs on one stat is 255, so you can only max out two stats, because 255+255=510.
Every 4 EVs is equal to 1 stat point in its respective stat. 4 attack EVs gives one attack stat point, etc.
So you can add up to 63 stat points to a stat, by giving 255 EVs to that stat. If you're smart, you'll notice 255 doesn't divide equally into 4, so 252 is the real maximum.
Stat points earned through EVs won't show all at once. They're gained on top of your normal stat gains over time, up to level 100.
Say you have a pokémon with 252 EVs in attack.
By level 50, it will have around 31-32 extra stat points than it normally would, given its species and IVs. By level 100, it will have the 63 extra stat points.
Anyway, the fatal flaw in what you're doing is that you're training high leveled pokemon, who have probably fought enough battles to have maxed their EVs. So they can't be EV trained further.
You can, however, delete EVs using berries. Anything between and including Pomeg and Tamato berries, I think. It says what stat they lower in their descriptions ingame anyway. They each delete 10 EVs.
EVs aren't shared in battle, either. So say two pokemon participated in battle against a golduck, when they both receive exp, they will EACH receive 2 EVs in special attack.
Anyway, hope that cleared up the rampant misconceptions about EVs on the internets.
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Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:39 pm |
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Dussel
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 2:14 pm Posts: 103 Location: You would'nt beleive me if i told you
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Well my mismagius has been ONLY training on golducks and gastly,
soooooooo at level 80 should i trian on Speed?
Oh and my Dusknoir is level 70, and i RUN from almost every wild pokemon, soooo the levels are from higher leveled pokemon, so EXP>EV in this case, sooooo i still have a bit of room left for Defense WEWT!!
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Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:00 pm |
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Bobsymalone
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:42 pm Posts: 60
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Well, if you've only trained on gastlies and golducks, you're probably maxed on special attack.
And yeah, the higher level something is, the more exp it gives, while EVs it gives remains the same. So if you've only trained on high levels, maybe you still haven't maxed out.
If you want me advice, I'd say breed a new one, or feed Dusknoir 26 of each EV-lowering berry and EV train him from there.
That does mean you'd be feeding him 156 berries in total, which could be tedious =P
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Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:09 pm |
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Skyon
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:11 pm Posts: 16
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Dussel wrote: I have a mismagius, i was intending for it to be a Special sweeper. So I went to the Old Cheatou.
My mismagius has a Bold nature with PKrus and a macho brace and is lv 68
and its SP. Attack is 169 and is now 172 at lv 69
I trained it on ghastly and haunter in the cheatou, they give SP. Attack EV's
I killed 35 ghastly and leveled up, but guess what? NO EV's
Why'd it do this? and where should i train now?
Do i have to breed my mismagius?! WAAAAH im so confused!
It'll show up in the long run.... when you hit 100
I usually level my guys with rare candy up to lvl. 98 then I Ev train one stat, then level it up to 99, then Ev train the other major stat, and it's one stat can go up +45 in one level if EV trained right. But don't worry it'll be good by 100....
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