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Well it could be that ash never met his father when he was born and (giovonni doesnt want pikachu beacause it was jesse, james ,and meowths idea.)and it really is giovonni a strong possibility


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Brock is Ash's daddy, of course. :P

But seriously... I think it would be cool if he was Pikachuu's original owner. I always thought Oak was Pikachuu's original owner... Am I wrong? @_@

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xchaos wrote:
if ash had red hair giovanni would be the dad unless gary has red hair and then it turns out to be him or some one or the other
if some one here has fire red and went to talk to the guy who stole the saphire heed say som thing about "goivannis kid but no he has red hair"
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The game's universe and the anime's universe are not canon with each other. Thus, using that piece of dialogue from FRLG does NOT provide that Giovanni is NOT Ash's father. For my money, I still think Giovanni is the most likely candidate, since Ash and Giovanni have still never met within the anime's storyline. And on a side note, I don't know why anybody would think Professor Oak is Ash's dad... if there is anything going on between Oak and Delia, I am pretty sure it started happening LONG after Ash's dad was out of the picture.


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which episode does it talk about his dad ??

i would like to think MR.Mime haha but that would be dirty tbh

Giovanni is a good option but dont see why he would leave his kid, rather than mold him into a ........................................ mini me ! :P

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For my money, I still think Giovanni is the most likely candidate, since Ash and Giovanni have still never met within the anime's storyline.


I thought they did during the Mewtwo Returns movie, or they at leeast spoke to each other.

Anyway, I believe that the most likely person would be Giovanni, for the simple reason that there have been very few recurring characters who would even qualify. I mean, there are the Prof.s, theres Giovanni, and then who else? Delia also says that Ash waslike his father when he set out, meaning they probably knew eachother as children. Assuming Delia was in her late 20s - early 30s when Ash was born, that would make her somewhere around 40 - 45. Now, which male characters have we met that are around that age? The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Norman, of course, it would help if he wasnt already married. In fact, I think this could possibly rule out Giovani, since I always aee him as a 60-something year old, meaning he would have left for his journey long before Delia was even born

Oh well. Guess we'll find out eventually.

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Okay, Giovanni is Ash's father.

But no, he doesn't want to steal Pikachu so he can "spend time to talk to his son,"

that's so freakin girly and prissy, I can't believe anyone even came up with that sap.

Giovanni doesn't know Ash is his son.

If any of you went to see the Pokemon Musical, you would know that Delia and Giovanni used to be together.

Duh.

And the Pokemon Musical was staged EXACTLY as though it was an episode of Pokemon. It followed the continuity of the series it preluded like any of the movies have, therfore you cannot discount its validity like you discounted the game earlier.

Delia says something to Giovanni like "Van, that was a long time ago... things can NEVER be like that again, you've changed! You're not the perosn you were back that! Everything Changes!"

And then they sing "Everything Changes" from the Pokemon 2BA Master Soundtrack.

And it woudl'nt surprise me if Gary was Giovanni's son also, and Ash and Gary were half brothers.

We all know that in a few years they'll make an older version of Pokemon, where Ash is an adult and the show is targetted at teenagers instead of kids. They'll probably address this issue then.

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^^^ wow didnt know there was a musical.

Is it Good ?

Is there anything on any websites about future shows of it ?

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The musical, in my opinion, was very bad.

Giovanni created a Mewthree which was a robot version of Mewtwo and no one could beat it. Whatever attacks were used on it, the Pokemon's robot brain would learn them and it could use them right back and it woudl calculate to make them ten tiems stornger when they return. The only Pokemon it needed to battle with to have data on every Pokemon was Ash's Pikachu. So GiIovanni captures Ash, Misty, Brock and Pikachu, then Professor Oak and Delia Ketchum by mistake because they're with the trio at the time. Eventually Mewtwo shows up and saves the day.

The 2BA Master soundtrack contains almost all the songs from the show.

It won't make a return and there are very few mentions of the musical online, most probably because it was considered a very bad move by the Nintendo Corporation. The musical was not really up to scratch.

Though, in the Australian Production, it started out on a boat that pulled into Sydney harbour. Team Rocket and Ash and Pikachu battled on the boat, then there was an explosion, and Team Rocket get blasted off again, and a heap of junk falls onto the stage, and Team Rocket climb out of it (pretty obvious there were two sets of actors, those on the boats, and those on the stage). Then Ash flies over to the stage on Pidgeot and the musical starts properly.

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xchaos wrote:
if ash had red hair giovanni would be the dad unless gary has red hair and then it turns out to be him or some one or the other
if some one here has fire red and went to talk to the guy who stole the saphire heed say som thing about "goivannis kid but no he has red hair"
hope i helped


Perhaps (I thought) this relates to GSC (there were a lot of forewarning GSC refs for the sake of continuity in the Sevii missions in FRLG), and to the Pokemon theif at the Elm lab who becomes your rival...
And also in the manga 'Pokemon Adventures' it is revealed that the red-headed boy (called Silver) is in fact Giovanni's son. Although I don't know and can't say if it is cannon or not.

But of course that doesn't discount the possibility of Giovanni being Ash's father, just means he gets around :P and did Ash and (Silver) ever meet in the anime? Poor scheduling order and delays in showings in Europe, combined with the fact that I can rarely get to our only TV with satellite on it means that I've missed a lot of the anime. Thanks.

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Personally i think the idea that it's giovanni or oak is stupid, and i believe that ash's dad is some amazing trainer who is or was pokemon champion
and in the final episodes they fight. Someone said gary was ash's brother/step or half brothers might also be true as that way ash's dad would be oak's son

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I have a different theory. Remember Silver from Pokemon Chronicles. The guy with the Chikorita that Richie met. He seems an even more likely person to me since he compares with Ash in several ways.

His Salamence parallels Charizard while his Chikorita parallels Pikachu. When he was younger, Silver saw Moltres rather like how Ash saw Ho-Oh in the first episode. And Silver actually knows of Ash.


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Interestin gtheory, 2x4. I never noticed that before. However, I suspect thta Silver is just a filler character, and will never be seen again.

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Here is what I think:

It can't be Giovanni, because they DID meet in the show when Ash went to the gym to get the badge. Maybe it could be that, but do Jesse and James ever mention the name of the person they follow? I mean, it makes no sense...(Also, I know he was shadowed over, so he only saw Ash, and he was still mean. And he had Mewtwo. So it was before the first movie.)

It's so obvious that it isn't Professor Oak. Why would Ash's mom go out with a man much older than her? It doesn't make sense either....Plain and simple.

And there it is...my saying about that...


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It can't be Giovanni, because they DID meet in the show when Ash went to the gym to get the badge. Maybe it could be that, but do Jesse and James ever mention the name of the person they follow? I mean, it makes no sense...(Also, I know he was shadowed over, so he only saw Ash, and he was still mean. And he had Mewtwo. So it was before the first movie.)


No, that was Gary who faced Giovanni and Mewtwo. Ash battled Jessie and James for the badges, against pokemon Giovanni gave the two of them (I think it was a Kingler, Machoke, and Golem), plus Arbok and Weezing.

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Undeadcutlet wrote:
Pikachu is Ash's father! All those times he says "Pika Pika?" He's saying "Who's your daddy?"

Giovanni would be interesting, but unlikely.


LOL pika pika?=whose your daddy! that made my day that was pretty funny

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Oak would have told Ash by now, so he's out. Eldershipping, however, isn't. "Love knows no age", ne?

Giovanni is a definate possibility. Except for that part in Live! where Deliah said he wasn't Ash's father.


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I highly doubt Live! is canon (if I'm thinking about what you're thinking about; the pokemon live show with the pokemon as people in suits and real onstage actors, correct?), so I don't support your reasoning.

However, I don't believe that Giovanni is Ash's father either, so it's all cool. ;D

Anyways, I believe Ash's dad is just some random trainer out travelling the world. Not all characters have parents, either because they're a) not necessary, or b) there's a reason. Ash applies to reason a. :)


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Does it really matter who Ash's dad is? Maybe we'll find out some day maybe we won't it's not 100% 'needed' in the storyline. Look at all the older games, you didn't know who your dad was either (R/Y/B, G/S/C). I think the brought the 'dad' aspect in with E/R/S because it let more people connect to the main charater.

From a standpoint if the game's player had no father at the time it would let them connect to the character more.

Also we never meet Gray's parents either.

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My theory is that Ash's father was such a total loser that his mother never wanted to speak to him again. This could leave open many possibilities as to who it is... but I don't think that it is Giovanni. That's just waaaay too much like Star Wars. Maybe it'd go something like this:

Giovanni: *approaches Ash* ...

Ash: *squeaky little voice* Are you my faja?

Giovanni: *breathes deeply into a suddenly-appearing respirator* Luke... I am your faja.

Ash: o_o; *implodes*

Yea, I believe that about sums up what would happen. Oh, and in the case that Oak was his father... it might be something more like this:

Oak: Ash, there's something very important that I feel I must tell you now.

Ash: *stuffing his face with food, looks up* Hn?

Oak: Well... I'll put it bluntly. Ash... you are my son.

Ash: *stops eating* o_o; W-what?!

Oak: I... your mother and I... look, it was a long time ago. I'm willing to...
become more of a father-figure than I've been in the past.

Ash: *throws down food & begins gagging*

Oak: Are you alright, son?!

Ash: *looks at Oak like he's insane* What do you MEAN, am I alright?! You just said you were my father!!

Oak: Well... yes. Is there a problem...?

XD I'm so messed up...

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Giovanni isn't Ash's father, neither is Oak. And the guy with the Chikorita in Chronicles isn't Silver, your Red-headed rival in GSC is, and he is Giovanni's son. I think this question would be like Pikachu's gender: they don't think its neccesary so they don't put it in

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i doubt its oak just cuz hes gary's grandpa, but hmm i agree with what people were saying earlyer he'll battle his dad on like the last epidso

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that couldn't be true cause giovani never said... i think in any shows.... wanted that pikachu. but maybe ash's mom and giovani had a fling when they were younger and something happen that made giovani that or it was a one nite thing or something

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could ash's dad be one of the elite four in one of the regions...that could explain why his dad is never home....

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it will be reviled in the last movie m'k?

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really???? when will this movie air? How do you know??

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