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hfxjus
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:02 am Posts: 543 Location: Freezer
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I hate Kecleon somehow. When it is hit by a dragonbreath, Kecleon turns into a dragon type and when it is hit by a dragonbreath again, it's super effective against
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kukubut
Bug Catcher
Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:32 pm Posts: 1 Location: In the universe
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I agree with you, hfxjus! I hate .
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Dark_Yoshi
Ace Trainer
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:32 pm Posts: 483 Location: Ontario, Canada
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is ok. It can learn some good moves but it's stats aren't that good.
Last edited by Dark_Yoshi on Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:41 am |
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Oasis_Supernova
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:41 pm Posts: 31 Location: Arkansas
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I like Kecleon because its a chameleon.
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:46 am |
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Sneaky Sneasel
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:21 pm Posts: 3128 Location: College
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Besides the fact the Dragonbreath is all but useless. Kecleon is very helpful determining what HP your Pokemon has. But other than that, it's kinda useless.
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:59 am |
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Krisp
Lite Four
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 6:21 pm Posts: 3471
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Kecleon is alright, I don't really have a problem with it. It is the key to finding out your pokemon's Hidden Power too
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:03 am |
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Rhapsody
Gym Leader
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:37 pm Posts: 1906 Location: Some fabulous place
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Without going up against many different Pokemon.
If it is super effective against a Dragonair though, not a lot of choices.
Kecleon=Ok.
-Gardevoir~
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:07 am |
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Eswin
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Wed May 04, 2005 7:17 am Posts: 248
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Kecleon rocks. His skyhigh SD makes Dragon attacks not an option when they do next to nothing to it. The fact it can learn skill swap also adds to it, swapping away Colour Change and using Return/Brick Break makes it fearsome.
A good set for it would be:
Shadow Ball
Return
Skill Swap
Brick Break/ Focus Punch
Item: Lefties ftw
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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I like Kecleon, based on the fact that they allow you to derive your Pokemon's type of Hidden Power very easily.
Kecleon's Trait is also rather amusing, and can be used to good effect with Skill Swap, like Eswin said.
I personally prefer psycho_freak's moveset for it, which can be found in the Creative Movesets Hall of Fame:
@ Leftovers | Color Change | Adamant Nature
Skill Swap - Thunder Wave - Shadow Ball - Brick Break
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Edit: Changed the title of the thread.
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:35 pm |
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Torkoal power
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:37 pm Posts: 216 Location: God knows where i am.
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i like Kecleon for, mainly one reason, it learns substitute naturally.
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:24 am |
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onion6
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:07 am Posts: 13
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is okay!It can learn many good moves like skill swap!
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:37 pm |
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IceBreak15
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:39 pm Posts: 39 Location: Kansas...so much fun, you'll want to shoot yurself.
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Kecleon is annoying. I don't like it. That's how I beat it anyway, by turning it ability against it.
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:30 pm |
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cyrus_zulinski
Bug Catcher
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:21 pm Posts: 3
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Kecleon's biggest weakness is it's terrible ability, because its stats are okay (special defense is ridiculous. defense is passable, as is attack). But it learns skill swap, which dumps that ability onto the foe. Unfortunately, there's not much else that Kecleon is going to do, because Color Change is such a crutch and it doesn't learn agility to up is awful speed or something like iron defense to work with its defense stat. So Kecleon doesn't make much of a sweeper or a tank. Absorbing special moves and giving someone Color Change to deal with is pretty much all that Kecleon can do, but he does it well.
So Kecleon, although limited, is good because it can own someone's Alakazam. Or something like that.
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Impersonation
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:52 pm Posts: 71 Location: Earth. Where else?
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To me, Kecleon is one of the most creative Poke'mon from Gen 2 - Gen 5. The idea of taking a chameleon's ability to change with it's environment and turn it into the Color Change ability is pretty smart of them. Although I wish that Gamefreak will make a GOOD evolution for Kecleon. cyrus_zulinski wrote: Kecleon's biggest weakness is it's terrible ability, because its stats are okay (special defense is ridiculous. defense is passable, as is attack). But it learns skill swap, which dumps that ability onto the foe. Unfortunately, there's not much else that Kecleon is going to do, because Color Change is such a crutch and it doesn't learn agility to up is awful speed or something like iron defense to work with its defense stat. So Kecleon doesn't make much of a sweeper or a tank. Absorbing special moves and giving someone Color Change to deal with is pretty much all that Kecleon can do, but he does it well.
So Kecleon, although limited, is good because it can own someone's Alakazam. Or something like that. I agree. It is especially weak to Poke'mon that knows different types of moves. Example: Mudkip/Marshtomp/Swampert knows ground type moves. I use it first on Kecleon to make it ground type. Then I use a water type move to finish Kecleon off. ~ My Kecleon's movepool: Skill Swap Dig Rain Dance Thunderbolt
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