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detectivepaco
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:01 pm Posts: 8 Location: Pennsylvania
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I have been considering who I want to put in my new team, and Slaking has always piqued my curiosity. But despite his great Attack and HP stats, his Truant ability (if you call that an ability) seems to throw a wrench in his usefulness.
So does anyone have advice on how to use Slaking effectively?
(Please include a suggestion for an item if you can!)
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:00 pm |
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pokemon prof.
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:58 pm Posts: 52 Location: In my lab learning as much about pokemon as possiable.
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well there isn't a item for that,but u can try him with a double battle,have a pokemon with follow me and have him usefocuse punch to take things down in one hit most of the time,but if not then get him a quick claw,that way he has a better chance of getting the first hit,if not then try to keep him as virgorth or give him powerful but high acc moves.
though i never used slaking so i really am guessing on this,but i am trying to help.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:22 pm |
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detectivepaco
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:01 pm Posts: 8 Location: Pennsylvania
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Thanks for you suggestions. I can see his use in a double battle, but the more I look into it, the less promising he seems in a single.
I was thinking about giving him a Choice Band and raising his attack and speed EV's to their max. If he gets the first hit, he will be devastating. The only down side to that is Truant. I thought if I could switch him after each successful hit, but that would seem like the rest of my team would take to much punishment from any Pokemon that attacks.
Any other ideas?
Last edited by detectivepaco on Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:33 pm |
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Radio Willy
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:40 pm Posts: 246
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I always had an idea that you could give slaking the Skill Swap TM that you can pick up on Mt. Pyre, just to torture your opponents. I don't know if they or other moves like this can be taught to him, but it's worth a try. Imagine how fun it would be to trade Slaking's "ablity" for one that could be useful.
The reason I thought of this is because a Ralts once used Skill Swap on his ally, which was a Slaking, in a double battle, and the Ralts started loafing around.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:33 pm |
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detectivepaco
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:01 pm Posts: 8 Location: Pennsylvania
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Unfortunately that is not possible. That was one of the first things that I thought of though.
I once had a battle where my Gardevoir's Trace ability copied Truant and Slaking knocked me right out!
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:37 pm |
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pokemon prof.
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:58 pm Posts: 52 Location: In my lab learning as much about pokemon as possiable.
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well then,give him moves that are status causing,like toxic or if this is on emerald and u can go to battle fonteir then teach him some good moves. like the elemental punches.
i would. i might ask my friend if i can have ruby back now.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:48 pm |
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detectivepaco
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:01 pm Posts: 8 Location: Pennsylvania
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Well while his Special Attack stat isn't bad, his Attack stat is what he seems best used for.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:52 pm |
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pokemon prof.
Psychic Trainer
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then teach him moves like shadow ball(if he can) and slash. they are good.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:55 pm |
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detectivepaco
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:01 pm Posts: 8 Location: Pennsylvania
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Yeah, I know to give him good attack moves, but I'm just asking if there is a better way to use him then to just hit the enemy really hard and then switch him out.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:59 pm |
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pokemon prof.
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:58 pm Posts: 52 Location: In my lab learning as much about pokemon as possiable.
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well i think vigorth can learn quick attack,not sure if so just give it choice band and give him protins and make sure his nature gives him attack,then just give him moves like the ones i mention. if not then don't use him,just get him to complete your pokedex.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:02 pm |
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JsXtm
Gym Leader
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:34 pm Posts: 2204 Location: Madison, WI
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The best/only decent way to use Slaking is in a double battle with another pokemon that knows skill swap, and a third that is also a good battler. Use Skill Swap on Slaking the first turn, then switch your other pokemon in, and proceed to kick butt with a Slaking without Truant, and your other good battler.
In a single battle, he frankly just stinks, IMO.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:03 pm |
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Krisp
Lite Four
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 6:21 pm Posts: 3471
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JsXtm: Are you sure you can skill swap it? I was told you can't...never tried it myself though.
detectivepaco: Slaking is good for hyper beam...dunno about the rest, I don't use it. If I did, I'd use Vigiroth.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:42 pm |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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Well in the future you can always visit the Movesets Guide (which can be found here: http://www.psypokes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=891 ) first and formulate ideas from there.
Slaking can be used as a Sweeper. With its stats, it can survive some damage from the foe, so there's no need to constantly switch him whenever Truant kicks in. Like some users have suggested, Slaking can therefore use Hyper Beam to good effect.
As for the item, you might just want to stick with the Leftovers to keep your Slaking alive during those turns when you'll be lazing around.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:40 am |
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Tanking Titan
Bug Catcher
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:36 am Posts: 17 Location: training my tanking pokemon in a cave
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you could just keep it a vigeroth. it has vital spirit instead of traunt
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:49 am |
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Eswin
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Wed May 04, 2005 7:17 am Posts: 248
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Slaking is a hit and run pokemon. Use moves like shadow ball, hyper beam (truant), Rock slide, Focus Punch, Aerial Ace and EQ with a choice band. After that, SWITCH IT OUT, before they bring in Dugtrio/Aerodactyl and pwn you with it.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:59 am |
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Ferrari
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:43 pm Posts: 117
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theyre right, the best way to have an effective slaking is to use hyper beam every turn...ill tell ya hes a pretty useless pokemon for single battles because he has no versatility
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:11 pm |
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pokemon prof.
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:58 pm Posts: 52 Location: In my lab learning as much about pokemon as possiable.
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true,for in some battles with trainers u will have double battles and he will be great,nintendo maded him to be double battle matrieal,not single.
though vigorth is differnt.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:09 pm |
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DeathEmpr
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:57 pm Posts: 129
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I wouldn't use at all. It has very good stats, but not enough for that ability.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:43 pm |
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Radio Willy
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:40 pm Posts: 246
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Right. Slaking's stats are legendary-like (It's max stat is only 20 less then that of Mewtwo's.), but Truant just ruins it, and if there's no way to get rid of it, then why use it?
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:46 pm |
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Peanut-Lover
Site Administrator
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 am Posts: 1917 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Slaking isn't that good in-game, but
Slaking @leftovers
~Brick Break (focus punch isn't based on speed; you go last anyway)
~Hyper Beam (he loses a turn anyway)
~EQ
~Shadow Ball
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:07 pm |
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Mr G W
Bug Catcher
Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:20 pm Posts: 14
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skill swap slaking and change the skill swaper and the ability is gone.
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:10 am |
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Ferrari
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:43 pm Posts: 117
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first of all he was trying to figure out 1 on 1 battle techniques...
...secondly a thing i like to do in a double battle is skillswap truant onto an opponent instead of switching him out...pretty cool to have an enemy loaf around
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:37 pm |
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detectivepaco
Bug Catcher
Joined: Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:01 pm Posts: 8 Location: Pennsylvania
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Thank you all so much for your suggestions. Just so you guys know, I did look at the Psypoke Movesets before I posted here, but I wanted advice on strategy.
Here's an idea I had for using Slaking in 1 on 1 battles. How well do you think he would work as like a Tank Killer. Boost up his attack, teach him Hyper Beam and have him take down those stubborn tanks.
But what item do you think would work better:
Choice Band: Which will give a massive boost to Hyper Beams power.
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Shell Bell: With the amount of damage he will be dealing, he should be getting a lot back. Enough to survive a few encounters.
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:16 pm |
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Valentine
Pokemon Master
Joined: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:59 pm Posts: 2399 Location: feel the mambo
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I'd go with Choice Band. I mean, with incredible power, what chance does your foe have to launch a KO?
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:45 pm |
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Ferrari
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:43 pm Posts: 117
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yep i agree...if youre determined to use a slaking then choice band is the way to go
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Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:39 pm |
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