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k.y0ng
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 4
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Is he really a top tier pokemon (to a cheap extent?) ? I read on smogon that he's too good and should be banned (lol).
Wobbuffet (Bold)
-Encore
-Counter
-Mirror Coat
-Safeguard
? I'm still a nub, but I don't see how that can be so "godly".
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:10 pm |
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Lynx
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:02 am Posts: 350 Location: Undisclosed
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two words....
"shadow tag"
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:16 pm |
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k.y0ng
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 4
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Yeah . . . . shadow tag won't allow your opponent to switch, but I still don't get it. I'm looking at his stats and they don't look good at all (except his HP). I only see it dying in 1 one from a top tier pokemon.
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:21 pm |
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Goldenprince
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:03 pm Posts: 320 Location: NOTHING
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well it is good by destiny bond and shadow tag.probably cause of that.
but it only has 1attack that can damage without sacrificing..counter..nothin else so it sucks in other ways.
it cant learn any tm or hm also
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:17 pm |
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TonberryKing
Psypoke Legend
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:28 am Posts: 646
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Wobbuffet... trap someone with Shadow Tag and get them with Encore if they used an attacking move. Now you can Mirror Coat or Counter for huge damage.
I guess Wobbuffet was better in GSC when you could have max HP, max Def and max SD. I don't use it in RSE otherwise. There <i>is</i> a point to its existence.
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:22 pm |
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CyberX
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:38 pm Posts: 286 Location: :noitacoL
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Whoa Nice topic thanks for the replys i didnt know those combos bout wobbofet thanks i used in net battle its realy good, plus it has high hp. thanks alot!
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:47 pm |
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SwellowLuvr
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:23 am Posts: 296 Location: Saturn
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{wobbuffet} I believe is good for catching pokemon, but it's not a pokemon I'd use for main battling.
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Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:27 am |
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k.y0ng
Bug Catcher
Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 4
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hm . . . opinions here differ with people on smogon.
They said Wobbuffet is an Uber pokemon with that moveset I mentioned above.
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Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:41 am |
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Lintaro
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:45 pm Posts: 331
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Dont sweat wobbufett is good use the shadow tag ability to catch Latias or Latios.
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Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:25 am |
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371T3
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:15 pm Posts: 69 Location: Littleroot, Hoenn
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He isn't that good that he should be BANNED, unlike Blissey. However, he can really spoil your day if given a good moveset(much like the OU Starmie)
Wobbuffet@lefties
Safeguard
Mirror Coat
Encore
Charm
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Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:47 pm |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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Yeah, I agree that there are quite a few strategies to using a Wobbuffet effectively, but I don't think it's good to such an extent that it should be banned.
At the end of the day though, it's still good for catching Pokemon like Latios and Latias
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:49 am |
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Lintaro
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:45 pm Posts: 331
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Wobbuffet maybe weak but it has shadow tag to catch legendary birds or legendary dogs.
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:38 am |
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Yumecosmos
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:33 pm Posts: 76
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Say, speaking of shadow tag... I've been wondering, what happens when you send out a wobbuffet against a wobbuffet? Are you both just stuck until you run out of PP and have to struggle?
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:44 am |
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Smarty_Arty
Bug Catcher
Joined: Fri May 06, 2005 5:25 am Posts: 12
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Lintaro wrote: Wobbuffet maybe weak but it has shadow tag to catch legendary birds or legendary dogs.
Actually Wobbuffet isn't weak I have to admit that it isn't too good against experienced players but it's the best pokemon against newbies and he rocks in stadium 2
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:56 am |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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Yumecosmos wrote: Say, speaking of shadow tag... I've been wondering, what happens when you send out a wobbuffet against a wobbuffet? Are you both just stuck until you run out of PP and have to struggle?
Yeah, I think that is the most likely thing to happen
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:16 am |
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BlasterMaster555
Pokemon Trainer
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:55 pm Posts: 46
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ROFL
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Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:37 pm |
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Lintaro
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:45 pm Posts: 331
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I think that wobbuffet is good at defenssive not offenssive
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Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:43 am |
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Yumecosmos
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:33 pm Posts: 76
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sN0wBaLL wrote: Yumecosmos wrote: Say, speaking of shadow tag... I've been wondering, what happens when you send out a wobbuffet against a wobbuffet? Are you both just stuck until you run out of PP and have to struggle?
Yeah, I think that is the most likely thing to happen
lol, I guess best stats win, then. That would be a looong battle. Hmm... you might argue that Wobbuffet is the ultimate anti-Wobbuffet strategy. >_<
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Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:39 pm |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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Not necessary. Pokemon that rely on indirect damage to win are good. My toxi-trapping Umbreon and my Ludicolo (drainer moveset), for instance. Wobbuffet would thus be unable to do anything in return while moves like Toxic and Leech Seed slowly KOs it.
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Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:56 pm |
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Yumecosmos
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:33 pm Posts: 76
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Yeah, I know that's the standard. I just think wobbuffet vs. wobbuffet is a lot funnier. ^_^ But maybe that mindset is why I don't win... -_-;
I've also heard people suggest that you use taunt so he can't use any moves and has to struggle. But I don't think that's a good idea, because then he can actually damage you a little. Why ask for trouble when you can just sit there and soak up health with leech seed?
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Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:45 am |
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Lintaro
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:45 pm Posts: 331
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Yumecosmos wrote: Yeah, I know that's the standard. I just think wobbuffet vs. wobbuffet is a lot funnier. ^_^ But maybe that mindset is why I don't win... -_-;
I've also heard people suggest that you use taunt so he can't use any moves and has to struggle. But I don't think that's a good idea, because then he can actually damage you a little. Why ask for trouble when you can just sit there and soak up health with leech seed?
Or maybe they just stand there like statues
I think wobbuffet meant to be funny
Anyway yumecosmos new solar cards are in a nice reulted team solar.
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Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:48 am |
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Yumecosmos
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:33 pm Posts: 76
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Well, I laughed at too at first. And then my got his butt kicked by one half his level. So who's laughing now?
(Although I guess Wobbuffet doesn't really laugh. He just makes that >_< face all the time.)
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Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:30 pm |
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sN0wBaLL
Lite Four
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 am Posts: 3827 Location: Singapore
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Looks like Wobbuffet can indeed generate some discussion, despite its limited movepool. Since we already have topics like "Smeargle Discussion Thread" and "Shedinja Discussion Thread", I'll change the title of this thread to something similar as well, just to make it seem slightly more "official"
Anyway, personally I think the >_< face is really cute
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Sun Aug 07, 2005 3:44 am |
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Lintaro
Gym Leader
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:45 pm Posts: 331
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You mean this face??
^///^
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Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:46 am |
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lapras7surfer
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:23 pm Posts: 255 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Well, all it needs is counter/mirror caot to reflect attacks to pay double.
My L 56 one really helped me get threw the powered-up Lance in LG
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:56 pm |
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