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 Agility v.s. Thunder Wave on a special sweeper 
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pros:
thunderwave - cuts opponents speed and 25% full paralysis, also remains until opponent is knocked out
agility - raise speed by 2 levels and remains with user

cons:
thunderwave - needs to be used on each new opponent
agility - is removed when user switchs out, knocked out, or hazed / pseudo-hazed

which is perferable on a sweeper which can learn both (i.e. zapdos etc.)


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questionfanatic wrote:
pros:
thunderwave - cuts opponents speed and 25% full paralysis, also remains until opponent is knocked out
agility - raise speed by 2 levels and remains with user

cons:
thunderwave - needs to be used on each new opponent
agility - is removed when user switchs out, knocked out, or hazed / pseudo-hazed

which is perferable on a sweeper which can learn both (i.e. zapdos etc.)

If you're fighting opponents that are just going to switch, then T-wave might be better as it lasts. However, Agility lets Zapdos take out pokemon like Ice Punch Weavile that would otherwise come in on a revenge kill.

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well it depends on the sweeper's speed, if its fast, give it thunder-wave, if its slow, give it agility


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Platinumdelcatty wrote:
well it depends on the sweeper's speed, if its fast, give it thunder-wave, if its slow, give it agility

if its like a jolteon use thunderwave
but a slower special sweeper id use agility

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Agility is better because some pokemon might have abilities that prevent paralysis.

Then again thats only a few ( {persian} , {ditto} , etc)

Thunder Wave is better if they don't have Limber though

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Platinumdelcatty wrote:
well it depends on the sweeper's speed, if its fast, give it thunder-wave, if its slow, give it agility



couldn't have said it better myself.

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Big E wrote:
Platinumdelcatty wrote:
well it depends on the sweeper's speed, if its fast, give it thunder-wave, if its slow, give it agility

if its like a jolteon use thunderwave
but a slower special sweeper id use agility

Well, Jolteon often has Agility because it can BP, as with Zapdos. (For some common movesets for Zapdos, look here).

If a sweeper is fast enough, though, Twave and Agility are often not used; instead, the sweeper would use an attack boosting move or item with a Spd boosting nature. For Zapdos, though, which does not have a good option for SpA boosting, it's best to go with Modest and focus on Spd.

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Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:52 pm
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i used zapdos as an example, i'm not trying to come up with a specific moveset for s specific pokemon
i was just wondering for those pokemon who learm both moves which i should use.
thanks 4 the input it makes alot of sense, slow poke use agility, faster use sgility
of course there r exceptions such as a bper
thanks for the replies
feel free 2 lock this topic


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