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Thanks papersun. :)

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Ok i just want you to rate a moveset for Lapras.

I dont know if this is common but I thought that Whirlpool/Perish Song combo would be good.

Lapras

-Ice Beam
-Whirlpool
-Perish Song
-Rest

Ice Beam is there because I cant find a better move, but if you would like to suggest a SA move then I would be welcome. Whirlpool and Perish Song to trap the opponent and hopefully switch out before Lapras croaks. Rest to regain HP obviously and remove Toxic and crap.

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It works pretty well, but Perish Song always seemed like a waste of time when I could just charge the opponent with Surf. :P Still, it DOES work. The only problem with Whirlpool is that it could end before Perish Count does. Then again, it's the only Trapping move Lapras learns. So it works.

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Yeah well it works from 2-5 turns so Ill just use it on the second countdown and run on the third while the other guy is still trapped.

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There are too many Eevee teams here and papersun hasn't made any comments. So, I will suggest movesets:

Espeon: Great stats, but no movepool. Psychic, Curse, Headbutt, Agility. Morning Sun can be thrown in, though.

Umbreon: Mean Look, Toxic, Confuse Ray, Moonlight.

Jolteon: T-bolt, T-wave, Bite, Double Kick. Double Kick is good for the abundance of golem. and for the occasional T-tar

Vaporeon: Surf, Ice Beam, Acid Armor, Baton Pass/Haze (use first, then acid armor)/Quick Attack

Flareon: No SAtk. Shadow Ball, Flamethrower, Iron Tail, Reurn. Curse could be thrown in over Iron Tail

For the sixth: Good ideas are Heracross. Dragonite (T-bolt, Beam, Thrower, Surf is excellent). You may need an earthhquake, to kill off electabuzz. And an ice beamer for zapdos. Golem, Machamp, etc are good for physical sweeping, as you lack one. Snorlax may also be good, as it could double as a tank.

Just trying to help. Haven't played in 3 months. I used to be hailed as an expert on a certain site.

Edit: as for the one using pidgeotto, NO. Better flyers include dodrio and fearow. However, if you must, Wing Attack/HP Flying, Mirror Move, Steel Wing, Mud Slap. Best i could do.
Vince: If its not too late, don't teach it dynamic punch. vital throw has nothing to do with accuracy of other moves. Also, don't teach amphy t-punch, as it is useless. Go w/ Return/Headbutt.

As for the others:
Blaziken- pretty standard for fealigatr and dragonite. Give Snorlax belly drum or curse. Give T-tar Curse and HP Flying/Crunch. For Ho-Oh, I like to throw in Sunny Day and Solar Beam. Standard, though, has been EQ, T-bolt, Sacred Fire/Flamethrower, and Recover/Future Sight.
Ruben- Where's Mean Look on Umbreon? Give it that over Double Team. Gyarados deserves a tutor. Typhlosion is Sunny Day, Flamethriwer, T-punch, and EQ. Alakazam gets recover over one of the punches (throw in over ice punch). Give T-tar curse over thrash.


Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:27 pm
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Here's my Elite Four TakeDown Team

{espeon} holding Amulet Coin
Psybeam
Bite
Psychic
Quick Attack

Best for Elite4. Super Special stats. Bite takes care of Will's Xatu and helps out against the other three. Amulet Coin is very handy when I'm short on cash.

{lanturn} holding Mystic Water
Surf
Waterfall
Take Down
Spark

Takes care of Houndoom and Onix easily and can resist Charizard's Hyper Beam. Also backs up for Ampharos with Spark.

{ampharos} holding Magnet
Thunder
Thunderpunch
Flash
ThunderWave

Easily takes out Gyarados and Slowbro. Can take out my rival's Feraligatr with a Thunder and helps against Water-Types.

{typhlosion} holding Charcoal
Flamethrower
Flame Wheel
Cut
Quick Attack

I always have to keep my starter. Takes on Exeggutor and Forettress.

{fearow} holding Sharp Beak
Fly
Pursuit
Peck
Drill Peck

Token Flying-Type, but Drill Peck packs a wollop and takes out Bruno easily.

{jynx} holding Nevermeltice
Ice Punch
Lovely Kiss
Powder Snow
Body Slam

Only used when in the Elite4. I only bring her out for Lance.

When I'm not battling I substitute Jynx for

{graveler} holding Soft Sand
Earthquake
Rock Smash
Rollout
Magnitude

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Vileplume wrote:
Here's my Elite Four TakeDown Team

{espeon} holding Amulet Coin
Psybeam
Bite
Psychic
Quick Attack

Best for Elite4. Super Special stats. Bite takes care of Will's Xatu and helps out against the other three. Amulet Coin is very handy when I'm short on cash.

Having both Psybeam and Psychic is a little redundant. Replace Psybeam with Psych Up (to copy annoying foe's stat changes) and Quick Attack with Morning Sun. Espeon doesn't have the Attack stat to pull it off.

{lanturn} holding Mystic Water
Surf
Waterfall
Take Down
Spark

Takes care of Houndoom and Onix easily and can resist Charizard's Hyper Beam. Also backs up for Ampharos with Spark.

There are two great Lanturn movesets, and I'll let you choose which one you like best: Rain Dance, Surf, Thunder, T-Wave/Attract/Confuse Ray, and there's also Surf, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, T-Wave/Attract/Confuse Ray. Of course, you already deleted Thunder Wave and Confuse Ray by the looks of it, so you decide.

{ampharos} holding Magnet
Thunder
Thunderpunch
Flash
ThunderWave

Easily takes out Gyarados and Slowbro. Can take out my rival's Feraligatr with a Thunder and helps against Water-Types.

Either Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, Light Screen, and Fire Punch, or keep Thunder instead of T-bolt, but only if you have the Rain Dance/Thunder combo on your Lanturn. Thunder's accuracy is a little too unreliable on its own.

{typhlosion} holding Charcoal
Flamethrower
Flame Wheel
Cut
Quick Attack

I always have to keep my starter. Takes on Exeggutor and Forettress.

You're limiting the poor thing with three lame moves. Keep Flamethrower, but replace the other three with Sunny Day (to halve damage from Water types), Thunderpunch (to counter Waters), and Earthquake.

{fearow} holding Sharp Beak
Fly
Pursuit
Peck
Drill Peck

Token Flying-Type, but Drill Peck packs a wollop and takes out Bruno easily.

Drill Peck, Return, Steel Wing, and Swagger. Best way for a flier to go.

{jynx} holding Nevermeltice
Ice Punch
Lovely Kiss
Powder Snow
Body Slam

Only used when in the Elite4. I only bring her out for Lance.

Well, why? Jynx is an amazing Pokemon. Replace Powder Snow with Psychic and if you can, trade Jynx back to RBY and teach Bubblebeam over Body Slam for Fires/Rocks/Steels.

When I'm not battling I substitute Jynx for

{graveler} holding Soft Sand
Earthquake
Rock Smash
Rollout
Magnitude


Hmm, I've never been a huge Graveler fan, especially without Rock Slide, which you can't get without breeding, which is what I suggest you do. Train a male Sudowoodo to level 28, when it learns Rock Slide, and put it in the Daycare with a female Geodude/Graveler. You'll get a Rock Sliding baby. Then add Earthquake, Explosion, and Fire Blast.

Also, those items you've attached, they do alright, but ultimately, the effect they have on their moves is minimal. Try attaching items like Leftovers, which restores HP after each turn, or a King's Rock, which could cause a flinch, or others like them.

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Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:56 am
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Oops. I forgot that Typhlosion knew Strength instead of Quick Attack.

Anyway here's my new Silver Team. I just beat Falkner, so here it is in all its weak glory.

{chikorita}
Tackle
Growl
Razor Leaf

{mareep}
Tackle
Growl
Thundershock

{geodude}
Tackle
Defense Curl
Rock Throw

{spearow}
Peck
Growl
Leer

Worthless Togepi Egg


Any suggestions/new Pokemon I should add in there?

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Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:18 pm
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I need a team rate, Please!
All @Leftovers:

Houndoom
~Sunny Day
~Solar Beam
~Flamethrower
~Crunch

Dragonite
~Steel Wing/Iron Tail
~Return
~Dragon Breath
~T-wave

Alakazam/Jynx/Exeggcutor
~Psychic
~Ice Punch/ICe Beam/Leech Seed
~Recover/Lovely Kiss/Mega Drain
~Reflect/Dream Eater/Explosion

Gengar
~Mean Look
~Toxic
~T-bolt
~Fire Punch

Machamp
~Cross Chop
~EQ
~Rock Slide
~Return/Curse

Lanturn
~Rain Dance
~Surf
~Thunder
~Confuse Ray/Attract/Ice Beam

I want to throw in Blissey or Miltank
~Heal Bell
~Softboiled/Milk Drink
~Ice Beam/Return
~[T-bolt/Fire Blast/S-toss]/Shadow Ball

No clue as to figuring out hidden power (nor do I have DV patience). Hit me with everything you have, I can take it. But yeah, I need Miltank or Blissey in there (not snorlax). I have only 4 weeks for all of it to happen.


Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:16 pm
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Huh, doesn't Blissey have a low special attack in Gold and silver?

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No. Blissey's stats

Is this board deserted?


Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:54 pm
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Oh yeah, but it's not exactly massive.

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My team: All have maximum stats and were raised very carefully by me.

MEWTWO :level 100
psychic
icebeam
submission
recover

MEW:level 100
Megahorn
psychic
thunderbolt
cross chop

DRAGONITE:level 100
Double edge
thunderbolt
fireblast
extremespeed

CELEBI:level 100
solarbeam
psychic
ancientpower
recover

HO-OH:level 100
sacred fire
sunny day
solarbeam
recover

KINGDRA:level 100
hydro pump
ice beam
dragonbreath
double edge

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE RATE MY GSC TEAM PLEASE?????
my alternate choices are:

LUGIA:level 100
hydro pump
earthquake
aeroblast
recover

MOLTRES:level 100
sky attack
hyper beam
fire blast
flamethrower

ARTICUNO:level 100
sky attack
Blizzard
ice beam
hyper beam

TYRANNITAR: level 100
hyper beam
earthquake
rock slide
crunch

ZAPDOS:level 100
Thunder
thunderbolt
fly
drill peck

BLISSEY:level 100
fire blast
ice beam
thunderbolt
softboiled

PLEASE RATE MY TEAM!!! EMAIL OR MESSAGE ME ASAP!!!


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Mewtwo: Counter > Submission.

Mew: Can't learn megahorn or c-chop. go with soft boiled and icebeam.

Dragonite: Surf or Icebeam over DE or Extreme speed.

Celebi: Biggest problem is heracross and hp bug. But, celebi also has a very bad movepool. Give it Leech Seed, Giga Drain, Psychic, Ancient Power/ HP Flying/Grass.

Ho Oh:Thats the one I use, but standard is Sacred Fire, EQ, T-bolt, Recover/Future Sight.

Kingdra: Surf, Ice Beam, Dragon Breath, Attract/Double Team/Disable/Swift/Skull Bash (Last one is a toss-up. Skull Bash, Double Team for stat raising, Swift for damage (and annoying DT-ers).

Can someone rate mine? Other page (where are the people whose positions involve rating the teams?).


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Here you are. The ones I don't comment on are standards and don't really warrant it.

Peanut-Lover wrote:
I need a team rate, Please!
All @Leftovers:

Houndoom
~Sunny Day
~Solar Beam
~Flamethrower
~Crunch

Dragonite
~Steel Wing/Iron Tail
~Return
~Dragon Breath
~T-wave

Alakazam/Jynx/Exeggcutor
~Psychic
~Ice Punch/ICe Beam/Leech Seed
~Recover/Lovely Kiss/Mega Drain
~Reflect/Dream Eater/Explosion

Personally, I've always liked the Psychic/Ice Beam/Lovely Kiss/Bubblebeam Jynx, but a T-Punch/I-Punch/Reflect/Psychic Alakazam is also great.

Gengar
~Mean Look
~Toxic
~T-bolt
~Fire Punch
Gotta have Psychic somewhere. Over Fire Punch, if possible.

Machamp
~Cross Chop
~EQ
~Rock Slide
~Return/Curse

Lanturn
~Rain Dance
~Surf
~Thunder
~Confuse Ray/Attract/Ice Beam

I want to throw in Blissey or Miltank
~Heal Bell
~Softboiled/Milk Drink
~Ice Beam/Return
~[T-bolt/Fire Blast/S-toss]/Shadow Ball

Neither one are that great, I don't think. Try a Snorlax with EQ, Return, Shadow Ball, and Rest, and attach a Mint Berry.

No clue as to figuring out hidden power (nor do I have DV patience). Hit me with everything you have, I can take it. But yeah, I need Miltank or Blissey in there (not snorlax). I have only 4 weeks for all of it to happen.

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I need a heal beller, though. Thats why i don't want snorlax.

But, which of the 3 psychics should I use? Jynx, Alakazam, or Exeggcutor?


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ummm...
the point of my team is purely physical sweeping, cause as much damage as i can possibly cause as fast as possible.

does anyone else have anything to say about my team?


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Peanut-Lover wrote:
I need a heal beller, though. Thats why i don't want snorlax.

But, which of the 3 psychics should I use? Jynx, Alakazam, or Exeggcutor?

Oh, well, then use Miltank. And just for all-around sweeping purposes, Alakazam will suit your needs better than the other two, I think.

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Also, who should I kick out?

Should I change anything else.


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heres my team
my friend is borrowing the game so i cant check all the moves
freligator
ampharos
lugia
golem
bellosom
magmar

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Here's my Gold Team. All @ Leftovers. If I can find where to get them.

{meganium}
Leech Seed
Poisonpowder
Synthesis
Giga Drain

{lapras}
Ice Beam
Surf
Psychic
Dragon Breath

{espeon}
Psychic
Morning Sun
Sunny Day
HP Fire (Standard)

{umbreon}
Mean Look
Confuse Ray
Moonlight
Protect

{heracross}
Curse
EQ
Seismic Toss
Return

{ho-oh}
Sacred Fire
Dragon Breath
Earthquake
Ancient Power

Little Bored so I made a team.
I'm rater now so bring on the teams!
Papersun, Tiger10x should contact you soon!


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lvl 100 {charizard}

lvl 100 {mewtwo}

lvl 100 {mew}

lvl 61 {celebi}

lvl 64 {suicune}

lvl 34 {kingdra}

my last three Pokemon are still in training and I havent played in a while

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Loco_Ludicolo has been accepted as a GSC Rater, so please cooperate with him as he begins his "rating career" :P

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Dragonite @ Dragon Fang
~Surf
~Outrage
~Thunderbolt
~Fly

Meganium @ Miracle Seed
~Solar Beam
~Synthesis
~Earthquake
~Reflect

Typhlosion @ Charcoal
~Sunny Day
~Flamethrower
~Thunderpunch
~Rollout

Feraligatr @ Mystic Water
~Curse
~Iron Tail
~Dynamic Punch
~Hydro Pump

Umbreon @ Blackglasses
~Confuse Ray
~Toxic
~Shadow Ball
~Pursuit


Lugia @ Leftovers
~Aeroblast
~Psychic
~Zap Cannon
~Recover


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FQ_786 wrote:
Dragonite @ Dragon Fang
~Surf
~Outrage
~Thunderbolt
~Fly

Try Ice Beam over Outrage and Flamethrower over Fly. Outrage isn't too good as it confuses you afterwards, whereas Fly wastes a turn.

Meganium @ Miracle Seed
~Solar Beam
~Synthesis
~Earthquake
~Reflect

Solarbeam isn't very useful without Sunny Day to complement it. you might want to use Meganium as a pure Physical Sweeper instead, with this moveset:

Meganium @ Leftovers
~Swords Dance
~Earthquake
~Ancientpower
~Return/Reflect/Light Screen


However, if you plan to have Typhlosion set up Sunny Day before switching to Meganium, I guess the moveset is fine, but you'll need to switch often to restart the Sunny Day sequence once it ends, so that can be a liablity.


Typhlosion @ Charcoal
~Sunny Day
~Flamethrower
~Thunderpunch
~Rollout

Looks fine, but Rollout doesn't really fit into the picture, so if you want you can switch it for some other filler move such as Roar, or a Special type Hidden Power.

Feraligatr @ Mystic Water
~Curse
~Iron Tail
~Dynamic Punch
~Hydro Pump

You might want to remove Hydro Pump and put in a Physical Attack to complement the use of Curse. Also, Dynamic Punch might not be a very reliable move, so an alternative move there won't hurt either. Pick Earthquake/Slash/Rock Slide/Ancientpower instead for these two slots.

Umbreon @ Blackglasses
~Confuse Ray
~Toxic
~Shadow Ball
~Pursuit

Toxic might not be useful without being able to trap the foe, so take out Pursuit for Mean Look. The rest of the moves are fine, but you might want to put Baton Pass over Confuse Ray or Shadow Ball so that you can trap foes that Umbreon is unable to handle, before passing to Pokemon that have an advantage over that opponent.

Lugia @ Leftovers
~Aeroblast
~Psychic
~Zap Cannon
~Recover

Zap Cannon isn't reliable; switch it out for some other Sweeping move. There are so many possibilities that I won't bother to list them, so you can view the Lugia sets in the GSC Movesets Guide if you need further help.

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