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Myfriend taught his mewtwo a normal type move "me first", it strikes first with opponent's move. My question is how can I fight against it. Since he is using UBERS I'll be using them too but it doesn't help because if for example if my mewtwo uses shadow ball he will use me first and kill me.

What can I do?

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pikachu65 wrote:
Myfriend taught his mewtwo a normal type move "me first", it strikes first with opponent's move. My question is how can I fight against it. Since he is using UBERS I'll be using them too but it doesn't help because if for example if my mewtwo uses shadow ball he will use me first and kill me.

What can I do?

Thanks in advance.


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This move fails if it goes last.


So just use Agility first turn, and then finish off the other Pokemon (hopefully). Or use a Mew with Explosion and then use that...lol

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Train up your Pokémon team is a first. Also, you should get Pokémon that are strong against his Pokémon types.
...Me First move copies the move your Pokémon is about to use, and only works if the user of Me First is faster than the foe.
I suggest something fast and powerful, like a Ninjask. Feed the Ninjask lots of Iron and Protein. With a strength against Mewtwo, Ninjask (Bug beats Psychic!) can defeat him. Also, Ninjask has more Speed than Mewtwo (base stats) so it's more likely that Ninjask will go first. Just don't forget to give Ninjask as much Iron as it can take as it has low Defense.

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Thanks for your help.

OK, so my mewtwo should be ok but what can I do if for example its my latios vs his mewtwo?

My latios kills his mewtwo in one hit (shadow ball+394sp a+soul dew)
but he will never get to go.

I was thinking about using ninjask with protect until speed goes up and then baton pass but this strategy is way too cheap especially when we are using UBERS.


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Hyperbole wrote:
Train up your Pokémon team is a first. Also, you should get Pokémon that are strong against his Pokémon types.
...Me First move copies the move your Pokémon is about to use, and only works if the user of Me First is faster than the foe.
I suggest something fast and powerful, like a Ninjask. Feed the Ninjask lots of Iron and Protein. With a strength against Mewtwo, Ninjask (Bug beats Psychic!) can defeat him. Also, Ninjask has more Speed than Mewtwo (base stats) so it's more likely that Ninjask will go first. Just don't forget to give Ninjask as much Iron as it can take as it has low Defense.

Oh, and welcome to Psypoke.



Thnks, I'll try it, hopefully ninjask will survive mewtwo's attack because if it doesn't I'll have to raise another one.


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Thanks for your help.

OK, so my mewtwo should be ok but what can I do if for example its my latios vs his mewtwo?

My latios kills his mewtwo in one hit (shadow ball+394sp a+soul dew)
but he will never get to go.



The best thing to do would be to attach a Focus Sash. But still, if Mewtwo uses Me First when it goes first, it's totally useless...

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After I use a move and he uses me first, if I survive the attack will latios still use the move?


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pikachu65 wrote:
After I use a move and he uses me first, if I survive the attack will latios still use the move?


Yup.

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Do you think it will survive a shadow ball with 1.5 the power? His mewtwos sp att is around 340. My sp def is about 260 and soul dew will make it even higher, hp is 297.


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Do you think it will survive a shadow ball with 1.5 the power? His mewtwos sp att is around 340. My sp def is about 260 and soul dew will make it even higher, hp is 297.


Um... Are you asking whether Latios will survive or Mewtwo? Because you put in Soul Dew but posted Mewtwo's Sp.Atk and Latios's Sp.Def... :?

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Ok... I have the solution! Make your pokemon learn mimic, copycat( optional ) Surf, latios is able to learn it, and Thunderbolt. First use surf, so that way if your friend's mewtwo uses Me First it wont damage you much at all. Then use mimic, as your friend might use a different move, either way a win-win situation. Then use thunderbolt, as if he uses Me First again he wont damage you much. Follow steps 1 and 3 over and over. Have fun.. Ask for a non uber fight sometime..

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I'll try the out, see what works better. I definitely want to raise a non uber team, I'm getting tired of mewtwo's kiogres etc.

As for my latios, I tried to use him in the battle tower. With 394 spa+soul dew for the first seven people I just beat I never got to use the other 2 pokemon I had on me. Latios is so much better then I thought it was.


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why not just use mimic the first time, then mewtwo uses mimc, which fails cuz he hasn't gone yet, and then you have your own copy of me first, or metrenome and pray :wink:

with metrenome, you won't know which move either of you will use. could be good for you or bad, but deff. fun.


the bug move is a good idea too. If he diddn't learn aura sphere, (shame on him) you could use a rhy-volution and mega horn. (wouldn't use heracross cuz he's psych-weak)

or: bide
you'll both be locked out for two turns, but it'll wear out me-first's PP (esp if you have pressure)

or pain split (does the same no matter who uses it) how about pain split, high HP, and toxic/flame orb ?


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The only thing you need to do is be faster, or bait a me first with a switch.

Or use the basic Choiceband U-turn ninjask, I have no idea why is would need irons when Uber play is predominantly special, but then again it won't Really survive anything anyway. He ends up with advantage of choose his next pokemon, but he'll also take a fair amount of damage and have to switch out.


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you could also use a move like thunder wave. I got completely owned by someone who was using a jolteon and it knew thunder wave and slowed my Pokemon team down to nothing while his power houses took it from there and finished me off... just an idea.

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you could also use a move like thunder wave. I got completely owned by someone who was using a jolteon and it knew thunder wave and slowed my Pokemon team down to nothing while his power houses took it from there and finished me off... just an idea.




thats a great idea thunder wave will also reduce his chances of attacking me besides lowering speed

he uses me first I use thunderwave, he misses and gets paralyzed, I kill him.

even if he attacks, my latios can survive a critical hit from his ice beam (its kind of weak for a mewtwo)

thanks so much, it should work


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keep in mind that his thunderwave is morelikely to hit than yours... you'll mostlikely be paralyzed when he goes, he will not... how about double team followed by a move that can't miss, such as shockwave (if you can get it raining, thunder is killer, and i know latias can learn it, and i think latios as well)

if using thunderwave, you could switch after he's paralyzed, then yopu'll be faster (if your both para'd you'll both be slowed down equally)

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What do you mean? doesn't me first only work when opponent uses attacks that do damage?


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pikachu65 wrote:
What do you mean? doesn't me first only work when opponent uses attacks that do damage?
Nope, least I've heard that me first will also replicate sword dance. Someone was testing specifically to figure out the move, so I'd say it's relatively trustworthy.

I'd say it just takes the move you were about to use.

Unless you wanted to use jolteon, who's faster and even if he wasn't he absorbs the electric attack he'd have used.


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Do you think it will survive a shadow ball with 1.5 the power? His mewtwos sp att is around 340. My sp def is about 260 and soul dew will make it even higher, hp is 297.


Um... Are you asking whether Latios will survive or Mewtwo? Because you put in Soul Dew but posted Mewtwo's Sp.Atk and Latios's Sp.Def... :?



sorry, I meant "will latios survive, mewtwos attack" but then I tested it and it did


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Nope, least I've heard that me first will also replicate sword dance. Someone was testing specifically to figure out the move, so I'd say it's relatively trustworthy.

I'd say it just takes the move you were about to use.

Unless you wanted to use jolteon, who's faster and even if he wasn't he absorbs the electric attack he'd have used.



so its kind of like another version of mimic.


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How about you use Electivire?
You use Thunderpunch.
Mewtwo's Me First uses Thunderpunch.
With Motor Drive Electivire takes no damage and it's Speed increases.

Or Houndoom?
You use Flamethrower.
Mewtwo's Me First uese Flamethrower.
With Flash Fire Houndoom takes no damage, becomes immune to fire attacks, and it's Flamethrower now does 50% more damage.

Ninetales or Arcanine would work too.

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Electivire in uber isn't good.


But to outspeed a Mewtwo, you either need Jolteon.

Jolteons now usually only carry T-bolt, Charge Beam, Agility, and Baton Pass. With volt absorb, mewtwo uses one of the 2 electric moves and heals jolteon :O.

That would work if only Jolteon was good in ubers. It really sucks there.

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MissingNo_Is_My_Friend wrote:
How about you use Electivire?
You use Thunderpunch.
Mewtwo's Me First uses Thunderpunch.
With Motor Drive Electivire takes no damage and it's Speed increases.

Or Houndoom?
You use Flamethrower.
Mewtwo's Me First uese Flamethrower.
With Flash Fire Houndoom takes no damage, becomes immune to fire attacks, and it's Flamethrower now does 50% more damage.

Ninetales or Arcanine would work too.




But if I use them he won't use me first he will just attack with something else and either kill or damage them

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Jolteons now usually only carry T-bolt, Charge Beam, Agility, and Baton Pass. With volt absorb, mewtwo uses one of the 2 electric moves and heals jolteon :O.


I don't think he will use me first when he sees normal pokemon



ps what would happen if I use momento?


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Me first doesnt work that way. It only works on offensive moves, as it says it attacks with 1.5x original power of the move.

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NarutoFreak wrote:
Me first doesnt work that way. It only works on offensive moves, as it says it attacks with 1.5x original power of the move.



When I want to see how a move works I go to double battle and use it on my own pokemon, how come me first doesn't let me use it on my own pokemon, I tried using different ones with different speeds


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