It is currently Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:57 am



Reply to topic  [ 159 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
 Gen. V starters. 
Author Message
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:02 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Captured in a cave in Afgha- OH GOD! DON'T KILL ME!- Nevermind! Don't tell anyone!
First of all, I don't think that they're going to change it from grass, fire, and water in the next games. Secondly, why would dark's immunity matter? Did you use razor leaf against your rival's cyndaquil? Likewise, are you going to use psychic type moves against a dark type? Not if you have a choice! Besides, one reason dark wouldn't unbalance it is because dark is the equalizer of the pokemon world. It nerfs psychic and ghost, which although they are not the best types in the games, in a more complex game they would be the hardest to beat because you would never be able to hit them! However, dark pays a price for beating psychic and ghost, because it gets beaten by bug, one of the most plentiful types in the early parts of the games. Therefore, though dark could nerf anyone who chose psychic, the dark would get slaughtered in the first part of the game, especially if there was a bug or fighting gym leader early in the game. Unfortunately, I have just remembered that psychic gets nerfed by bug too. In that case, anyone who chose psychic would just have to live with their bad decision until the fighting type gym, where they would own, and the dark types would get nerfed by a machop. Justice is served.

_________________
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and he buys a funny hat. Talk to a hungry man about fish and you're a consultant. -Dogbert-


Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:38 am
Profile
Psypoke Maniac
Psypoke Maniac
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:17 pm
Posts: 2512
Location: With the 3 guides of time, deciding the fate of it...
FestusOmega wrote:
First of all, I don't think that they're going to change it from grass, fire, and water in the next games. Secondly, why would dark's immunity matter? Did you use razor leaf against your rival's cyndaquil? Likewise, are you going to use psychic type moves against a dark type? Not if you have a choice! Besides, one reason dark wouldn't unbalance it is because dark is the equalizer of the pokemon world. It nerfs psychic and ghost, which although they are not the best types in the games, in a more complex game they would be the hardest to beat because you would never be able to hit them! However, dark pays a price for beating psychic and ghost, because it gets beaten by bug, one of the most plentiful types in the early parts of the games. Therefore, though dark could nerf anyone who chose psychic, the dark would get slaughtered in the first part of the game, especially if there was a bug or fighting gym leader early in the game. Unfortunately, I have just remembered that psychic gets nerfed by bug too. In that case, anyone who chose psychic would just have to live with their bad decision until the fighting type gym, where they would own, and the dark types would get nerfed by a machop. Justice is served.


About this...I used Razor Leaf to beat my Rival's Cyndaquil...no but seriously, I see your point...just that they wouldn't go so far as to add an type combination that would cause an immunity of one type to another...& no Dark is not an Equalizer in no sense of the Type...they can only add either Dark or Psychic via the same Generation of pokemon starters so...while what you say makes sense, the Gyms have no factor in the 2nd Typing or it wouldn't be so unbalance with one starter being able to beat most of the Gyms of their Gen & another having to not be so able to...kind of like in the 3rd Gen...kind of...wouldn't mind though if they did cause the Dark Type isn't hard to overcome per say anyway...

_________________
3DS Friend Code = 4441 - 9336 - 3527
(Be aware that I must also add you so in order to know you added it, just maybe...)

Eevee Breeding Project leftovers are Available here + rest of my trading wants & haves...
Lawence Codye's Trading Thread (Gen 6 / X & Y)

"The Nine Tails of Subconscious - Lawence Codye"


Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:47 pm
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:35 pm
Posts: 5
Location: Who knows!
FestusOmega wrote:
First of all, I don't think that they're going to change it from grass, fire, and water in the next games. Secondly, why would dark's immunity matter? Did you use razor leaf against your rival's cyndaquil? Likewise, are you going to use psychic type moves against a dark type? Not if you have a choice! Besides, one reason dark wouldn't unbalance it is because dark is the equalizer of the pokemon world. It nerfs psychic and ghost, which although they are not the best types in the games, in a more complex game they would be the hardest to beat because you would never be able to hit them! However, dark pays a price for beating psychic and ghost, because it gets beaten by bug, one of the most plentiful types in the early parts of the games. Therefore, though dark could nerf anyone who chose psychic, the dark would get slaughtered in the first part of the game, especially if there was a bug or fighting gym leader early in the game. Unfortunately, I have just remembered that psychic gets nerfed by bug too. In that case, anyone who chose psychic would just have to live with their bad decision until the fighting type gym, where they would own, and the dark types would get nerfed by a machop. Justice is served.


Honestly, this happens in every generation with the basic FWG starters.

_________________
THE TEAM

{mamoswine} {typhlosion} {magnezone} {poliwrath} {skarmory} {gengar}


Last edited by Arnthorr on Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.



Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:46 pm
Profile
Pokemon Ranger
Pokemon Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:41 pm
Posts: 728
Location: Atlanta, on a never ending quest to find wifi opponents...
Espeonage9523 wrote:
you have a point about the not so intuitve as fire water and grass, i just would like to ssee some difference somewhere, its always the same three. even if it was something almost as intuitve like lightning, rock or ground, and water, just SOMETHING different. the only two differences i have seen is pikachu in yellow and the eevee in XD.


I think they should do a different one.


I remember a long time ago people saying psychic dark ghost would be balanced but dark has that psychic immunity so nah...Maybe if they could find another three where one is both weak to and strong against exactly one other then it would be awesome. But i don't think there are any.

_________________
Think you can handle the Shady Park Gym?
1461*4103*1427
<center><img src="images/trainercards/kol40.png"></center>


Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:22 pm
Profile YIM
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:17 am
Posts: 100
Location: Boise, Idaho
They should make the starters Unown. XD

_________________
''I believe that humanity's goal should not be complete victory, but rather a certain demeanor, an attitude, towards fighting.''~~Treize Khush-Renada


Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:58 pm
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:36 am
Posts: 197
I hope they don't deviate from the Grass/Fire/Water. It has been tradition. There are some things you can't just change. Besides, nintendo has the secondary status to tweak so we should be fine by that.

But they still need to make grass cooler and better! Not just the starter, mind you.

_________________
{venusaur} {charizard} {blastoise} {meganium} {typhlosion} {feraligatr} {sceptile} {blaziken} {swampert} {torterra} {infernape} {empoleon} {machamp} {gallade} {toxicroak} {pidgeot} {staraptor} {luxray} {alakazam} {gengar} {nidoqueen} {nidoking} {aggron} {rhyperior} {gyarados} {milotic} {kingdra}


Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:43 am
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:52 am
Posts: 5
i think there should be pokemon like bagon dragonair, and flygon


Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:27 pm
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:31 pm
Posts: 15
how about the second types be ghost, ghost pokemon, like dragon, can super effectively kill each other, and also, for the record, i know this will be stupid, but for my own personal reasons the water starter should be a lizard, because even though i love totodile( and it pwns due to its versitility and defense stats) it doesnt complete my lizard starter trio (also, they should have a fire turtle to balance things out too)

_________________
[color=#FFFF00]GYOOOOOOOOOOOO!!![/color] <a href="http://www.dragonflycave.com/newpay.aspx"><img src="http://www.dragonflycave.com/wpay/absol.gif" alt="I am an Absol!" title="Find out what Pokémon you are at The Cave of Dragonflies"></a>\


Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:45 pm
Profile
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:33 pm
Posts: 1578
Location: Wisconsin
Found this as well; didn't see it anywhere else here...

Image

I'm going to make a wide guess that these are the starters (look at the colors). The water type looks to be a dolphin. :>

_________________
Image


Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:01 pm
Profile WWW
Pokemon Trainer
Pokemon Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:24 pm
Posts: 43
Location: Kentucky
Seems a bit unfair for the Dolphin and the Snake seeings how the obvious grasstype has legs...

_________________
Image


Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:08 pm
Profile
THE POWER IS ON!
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:29 am
Posts: 1559
Location: Purple Ranger
Dude, if that picture were real, I would die of happiness. Unfortunately, Pokemon Sunday hasn't revealed anything about the starters yet so it's probably fake. However, if I wish it were real because...

...dolphin starter? GTFO!

(Also I love you Joey but we have a topic for the starters already, so I'm going to go ahead and merge it.)

_________________


Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:12 pm
Profile
Gym Leader
Gym Leader
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:33 pm
Posts: 1578
Location: Wisconsin
Greatwolf67 wrote:
Seems a bit unfair for the Dolphin and the Snake seeings how the obvious grasstype has legs...

Bah, legs are overrated. :)

I hope the dolphin stays cute for its whole evolution line... I don't want it to be an angry dolphin. :( Of course, it very well could be a shark, but I doubt it since we have Sharpedo already.

I hope it's true too, Frost.

Edit: Oh, ha, how sillly of me to overlook this thread. Thanks for merging it Frost. :>

_________________
Image


Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:14 pm
Profile WWW
Pokemon Trainer
Pokemon Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:24 pm
Posts: 43
Location: Kentucky
The idea of a fire snake sits well with my fire starter collection. Unlike Torchick which for the life of me I will never own due to it's digimon wannabe evolution...

_________________
Image


Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:25 pm
Profile
Pokemon Trainer
Pokemon Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:24 pm
Posts: 43
Location: Kentucky
Registeel_Rocks wrote:
Greatwolf67 wrote:
Seems a bit unfair for the Dolphin and the Snake seeings how the obvious grasstype has legs...

Bah, legs are overrated. :)

I hope the dolphin stays cute for its whole evolution line... I don't want it to be an angry dolphin. :( Of course, it very well could be a shark, but I doubt it since we have Sharpedo already.

I hope it's true too, Frost.

Edit: Oh, ha, how sillly of me to overlook this thread. Thanks for merging it Frost. :>

Lets just hope the Shiny of the Dolphin isnt pink... or in general the dolphin being pink.

_________________
Image


Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:26 pm
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:47 pm
Posts: 15
Greatwolf67 wrote:
Seems a bit unfair for the Dolphin and the Snake seeings how the obvious grasstype has legs...


That's just what they want you to think. The leaf-like thing on the back of the top-left starter is obviously a group of fins, those things that look like fins on the top-right starter are definitely blades of fire, and that torch-like silhouette on the back of the bottom starter is obviously a flower in bloom. The background colors are just supposed to thrown you off. Remember, the round pokeomn shadow is actually a jigglypuff as seen from above :D


Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:16 pm
Profile
Psychic Trainer
Psychic Trainer
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 31, 2009 4:30 pm
Posts: 65
Location: Anywhere and Everywhere......
http://i39.tinypic.com/fu6kad.jpg
A fire snake, which I guess will become a salamander/dragon, while the water dolphin will turn into a shark or something else.
As for the grass stag, I say it will evolve into a large one and they will name it Malorne.

_________________
Image
From the Pokemon art gallery. It's art,man!

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5153353/1/P ... of_Azeroth
This is what I call a true fanfiction! Sequel is now in progress! http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7172509/1/B ... _the_Flame
Disclaimer: I do not own them. I merely post it here so that I can share this with you.
http://pokefarm.org/_ext/PFZX5DZ~5Dr
Please hatch my eggs !


Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:55 am
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer

Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:45 am
Posts: 209
I just hope the first two forms of the Starters have pickup, or some similar outside-the-game useful ability, and their final form has an in game ability that matters (like Water Absorb).

As if anyone has EVER recognized when torrent did jack sh^$


Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:18 pm
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher

Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:13 am
Posts: 11
Location: Durham, NE, England
i agree with every who says it that they wont deviate now from the WGF primary typing. how ever the secondary typing of dragon does sound cool. when looking at the photo posted by Registeel_Rocks the tail of the snake and the blade on the back of the stag could easily be interchangeable. how ever i think it is very sneaky that snake and stag since both these are woodland creatures.

also i agree with Frost a dolphin pokemon awesome even though there has already been one (gorebiss) this one looks much better


Last edited by ironbrulad on Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:20 pm, edited 2 times in total.



Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:53 pm
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher

Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:37 am
Posts: 18
Registeel_Rocks wrote:
Found this as well; didn't see it anywhere else here...

Image

I'm going to make a wide guess that these are the starters (look at the colors). The water type looks to be a dolphin. :>

Where exactly did you find that??? O-o

_________________
Image


Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:09 pm
Profile
Pokemon Ranger
Pokemon Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:50 am
Posts: 889
Location: Nova Scotia. Yeah, It exists.
Deviantart. It's fake.

_________________
[img]http://i43.tinypic.com/15p4jle.png[/img]
FC: Ryan 1462-9617-6058
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmq4lPe6KoI
friends FC black:0261 0441 3891


Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:54 pm
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher

Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:37 am
Posts: 18
Ryanh181 wrote:
Deviantart. It's fake.

Man...... Then again, there's a good chance the starters will look something similar though.

_________________
Image


Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:05 pm
Profile
Pokemon Ranger
Pokemon Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:51 pm
Posts: 616
Location: hiding in my hoenn secret base
Master Zoroark wrote:
Ryanh181 wrote:
Deviantart. It's fake.

Man...... Then again, there's a good chance the starters will look something similar though.


dolphin starter=bomb

_________________
Veni Vidi Vici



I post AoE 3 on YouTube. Look up BigThunderMan.


Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:45 pm
Profile
Dragon Tamer
Dragon Tamer

Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:45 am
Posts: 209
I'd rather have a Crab starter, or Lobster, or even a salamander or frog.


Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:53 pm
Profile
Pokemon Ranger
Pokemon Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:46 am
Posts: 631
Location: I am the main Character!!!
KingErick wrote:
Master Zoroark wrote:
Ryanh181 wrote:
Deviantart. It's fake.

Man...... Then again, there's a good chance the starters will look something similar though.


dolphin starter=bomb


No dolphin starter=chicken of the sea

And snakes freak me out so assuming these are the starters I would go with the leaf deer thingy. Even if it does seem to be wearing a tutu.

_________________
Image


Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:49 pm
Profile
Bug Catcher
Bug Catcher

Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:13 am
Posts: 11
Location: Durham, NE, England
ironbrulad wrote:
the tail of the snake and the blades on the back of the stag could easily be interchangeable. thought the blade on the stag

look more like leaves then flames and well the background colour could have been put in to put people off which is which


Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:35 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 159 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by STSoftware for PTF.