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Soanevalcke6 wrote:
Um Emin, could you look at my first list, it says those pokemon definetly WONT get Evolutions, because thier Novelty Pokemon. Sorry =/, but I like your Ideas =P

and, you guys have to realize that, some pokemon dont have room for Baby pokemon, because of the EVs they give when defeating them

Baby/first Stage Pokemon always give 1EV
Second Stage Pokemon always give 2 EVs
and Third Stage/Legendary Pokemon always give 3 EVs

Pokemon with 2 stage Evolutions at the moment usually only have room for a Third Stage Evolution, because the other two spots are taken


then game freak has no excuse for not doing anything with kanghaskan! :D

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Yeah & they can always make adjustments to fit the evolution/preEvolution in there somewhere "Soanevalcke6"...it is an ever expanding RPG so...anyway time for the Johto...list of pokemon that should get a baby stage in Gen 5;

1. Yanma (& yeah...no trapinch look alike either, I want to see a bug with wings still...)
2. Girafarig (would be adorable & crazy looking at the same time...)
3. Heracross (I would feel sorry for pokemon like Bulbasaur if this ever happened...)
4. Delibird (for a stupid reason...enough said...)
5. Stantler (a worse idea then an "evolution" for it but they gave Roselia both in 1 Generation so...)

I know short right...well whatever, let's see what's in store for the Hoenn pokemon "Next Post"...til then, out...

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dunsparce is a larva, so technically it is a baby
And as far as evs are concered they can just rewrite the code for the game, I mean they did it for magnimite, which was a electric/steel type it GSC and an electric type in RBY and it could go back and forth between the two games. but I do agree on the novelty aspect of certian pokemon
with the execption of castform


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Dunsparce is definitely a pokemon they should evolve. It's so pathetic, yet so awesome.

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I remember I raised a Dunsparce in Crystal because I actually found one Rock Smashing and just couldn't Box it up.
It had potential! Moreso than Yanma did, and that thing got a freakin evolution.
Castform deserves one, too. Sure, it's a novelty, but its stats are a total waste.

... I want Spoink to have an alternate. I hate Grumpig.
That's my vote for Pokemon that need evos.

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Oh sorry, want thinking Strait there, Of Course they can change EV's sorry

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I remember I raised a Dunsparce in Crystal because I actually found one Rock Smashing and just couldn't Box it up.
It had potential! Moreso than Yanma did, and that thing got a freakin evolution.
Castform deserves one, too. Sure, it's a novelty, but its stats are a total waste.

... I want Spoink to have an alternate. I hate Grumpig.
That's my vote for Pokemon that need evos.


Yeah, Grumpig doesn't even bounce.

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Or perhaps an evolution to Grumpig?

It turns out there are like ~20 Hoenn non-legendaries that have no evolutions.
Nosepass [has one now]
Sableye [needs one, but is unlikely to get]
Mawile [needs one, but is counterpart to Sableye and is, such, unlikely to get]
Plusle/Minun [useless, meant to show off double battles]
Volbeat/Illumise [useless, meant to show off double battles]
Roselia [has one now]
Torkoal [needs one]
Spinda [novelty pokemon]
Skarmory [needs one]
Seviper [needs one]
Zangoose [needs one]
Lunatone/Solrock [perhaps a pre-evo that could evolve into either? based on sun/moon?]
Castform [novelty pokemon]
Tropius [needs an evo or a pre-evo]
Chimecho [has a pre-evo]
Absol [needs an evo or a pre-evo]
Relicanth [novelty pokemon w/wailord...kind of useless]
Corsola [needs an evo]
Luvdisc [novelty pokemon]

So: Corsola, Absol, Tropius, Lunatone/Solrock, Zangoose, Seviper, Skarmory, Torkoal. 9 pokemon that are likely to get evolutions or pre-evolutions in the next generation. 2 are from GenII: Corsola and Skarmory.

Corsola has already been discussed, but I don't think an evolution would become like a coral fortress...perhaps something like a more sleek version?
Absol is an awesome pokemon, and people like it, so it might just get an evolution.
Tropius is friggin' huge, but it's a great and novel idea so it will probably get a pre-evo, maybe a smaller version or something
Lunatone and Solrock, based on their obvious connotations, can have a pre-evo that evolves into either based on the time.
Zangoose and Seviper are awesome, and if one gets, so will the other. I have no ideas as to what they will become, though.
Skarmory is already pretty powerful, so I don't think there's a huge chance that it'll get an evolution. It might, but the chance isn't total.
Torkoal has already been discussed.

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I'm sorry, maybe I missed it. What, exactly, defines a novelty pokemon?
And why does that weigh in on whether or not it gets an evo?

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What, exactly, defines a novelty pokemon?


Novelty Pokemon are things like Farfetch'd, which aren't meant to be of any use in battle. They're either good at contests/Pokeathlon, plain old awesome (Farfetch'd, anyone), just useless (Luvdisc), or have some cool trait. For example, Spinda has a ton of different spot designs, Castform can change forms based on the weather, and so on.


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Novelty doesn't hold a factor in determining what pokemon obtains an evolution & the pokemon SlowKing, Bellossom, Politoed, etc. are existing proof of this...especially Slowking...plus some pokemon that aren't optimized to be used in battle got preevolutions/evolutions...so...

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Since when are Politoad, SlowKing, and Bellosom Novelty Pokemon? they have the same base stats as Poliwhirl, SLowbro, and Vileplume, just put in different stats

Also, I pretty much Agree with everything Lightshayde said =P

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I was just curious, because Lightshayde was putting in there that "this one's novelty"
so I wasn't sure why that was important.

I agree, Farfetch'd is just plain awesome. It would kinda ruin him if he got an evo...
Well, not ruin. It'd either be AWESOME, or the worst thing ever.

Maybe, is that why novelty-ness is important?
If I were in charge of coming up with new pokemon/evolutions, I would NOT want to mess up something everyone loves. (Magnezone...)

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Soanevalcke6 wrote:
Since when are Politoad, SlowKing, and Bellosom Novelty Pokemon? they have the same base stats as Poliwhirl, SLowbro, and Vileplume, just put in different stats

Also, I pretty much Agree with everything Lightshayde said =P


I meant that the fact that there was no need for either of their evolutions & they were still made means that novelty isn't a factor in determining which pokemon get an evolution/preEvolution...though the region might be...might be...anyway, that's all I was saying...I know they aren't novelty pokemon...just that they are unneccessary...meh...

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Lawence Codye wrote:
Soanevalcke6 wrote:
Since when are Politoad, SlowKing, and Bellosom Novelty Pokemon? they have the same base stats as Poliwhirl, SLowbro, and Vileplume, just put in different stats

Also, I pretty much Agree with everything Lightshayde said =P


I meant that the fact that there was no need for either of their evolutions & they were still made means that novelty isn't a factor in determining which pokemon get an evolution/preEvolution...though the region might be...might be...anyway, that's all I was saying...I know they aren't novelty pokemon...just that they are unneccessary...meh...




oh, okay =P

Well I wont say they were unneccessary, Like if you wated a little more Spec Def instead of Spec Att, you'd Evolve Gloom into Bellosom, and if you wanted to evolve Poliwhirl into something with more Special Stats instead of Physical, you'd evolve it into Politoed ((although this one got more useless in Gen IV)) and for slow poke, It depends on whether you want Spec Def and Phys Def. Although these ones could have had more Varying Stats =/ they made better Split Evolutions in Later Generations.

BTW, a good example to use for an Unneccessary split Evolutions would be Frosslass =P but thats just My opinion.

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I was talking about this with some earlier. If Ditto got an evolution, it would be named one of these: Samehere, Metoo, Iagree, Iconcur, or Yesindeed. They all mean the same as "ditto."


I say Mimigoo!!!!!!!

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BTW, a good example to use for an Unneccessary split Evolutions would be Frosslass =P but thats just My opinion.

Oh no you di'int!!!
If Poke-bestiality were allowed in the real world, I'm pretty sure Froslass would be my life partner.

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Ryder wrote:
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Soanevalcke6 wrote:
BTW, a good example to use for an Unneccessary split Evolutions would be Frosslass =P but thats just My opinion.

Oh no you di'int!!!
If Poke-bestiality were allowed in the real world, I'm pretty sure Froslass would be my life partner.


yeah..........um...........i got nothin to say to this........XD........


This is because Froslass is a great pokemon. Glalie was kind of useless.

BACK ON TOPIC

Gallade, I remember seeing someone say (it might have been on this thread) that it was a waste because it was basically a "cooler" evo for a "girly" pokemon.
In any case, the Gardevoir sprite for GenIII was bad because i thought the things on its head on the right were its mouth...I went through my first playthru thinking that Gardevoir had suckers for a mouth.

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@ Soanevalcke6 = Frolass is a great example even though it's a Ghost type & Glalie is a Dark Type & so is Gallade no matter no awesome I think he is...

But back on Topic...as I pretty much promised, the Hoenn pokemon list for you know;

1. Sableye (cause I want to see what approach they will take here...)
2. Mawile (it would be adorable & probably cuter then Mawile itself...)
3. Torkoal (...I don't know why but I picture a crybaby here...hmmm...)
4. Absol (a stupid reason...enough said...)

...& I would like to see more Formes for Deoxys of some sort...

Anyway, Sinnoh next post blah, blah, blah...later...

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Lightshayde wrote:
the Gardevoir sprite for GenIII was bad because i thought the things on its head on the right were its mouth...I went through my first playthru thinking that Gardevoir had suckers for a mouth.

I'm ... confused.
I didn't think there WAS a mouth until I saw it in the anime, but how did you figure suckers?

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Lawence Codye wrote:
@ Soanevalcke6 = Frolass is a great example even though it's a Ghost type & Glalie is a Dark Type & so is Gallade no matter no awesome I think he is...

But back on Topic...as I pretty much promised, the Hoenn pokemon list for you know;

1. Sableye (cause I want to see what approach they will take here...)
2. Mawile (it would be adorable & probably cuter then Mawile itself...)
3. Torkoal (...I don't know why but I picture a crybaby here...hmmm...)
4. Absol (a stupid reason...enough said...)

...& I would like to see more Formes for Deoxys of some sort...

Anyway, Sinnoh next post blah, blah, blah...later...


I wouldn't Say Gallade is useless, Psychic/Fighting is Very useful =P

and I wanna See a Torkoal Evolution Because...

Blastoise (Water)
Torterra (Grass)
Torkoal (Fire)

It would be the Three Starter Types =P

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Soanevalcke6 wrote:
I wouldn't Say Gallade is useless, Psychic/Fighting is Very useful =P

and I wanna See a Torkoal Evolution Because...

Blastoise (Water)
Torterra (Grass)
Torkoal (Fire)

It would be the Three Starter Types =P


What I meant was that there is already {medicham} & that also there's the fact that {gallade} only has good ATK, not good ATK & SPATK as Medicham had good DEF & SPDEF according to it's stats...basically put it this way, it's not "useless" but "unneccessary", see...still glad it was created cause I now have a favorite Fighting Type cause of it & I didn't like Medicham anyway...Oh & I want to see a {torkoal} evolution too for the same reason as you do...

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Mewtwo
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Ho-oh
Groudon
Kyogre
Rayquaza
Dialga
Palkia
Giratina
Arceus

These Pokemon really need evolutions!!!

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Soanevalcke6 wrote:
I wanna See a Torkoal Evolution Because...

Blastoise (Water)
Torterra (Grass)
Torkoal (Fire)

It would be the Three Starter Types =P

Oh my Arceus!
Never thought about it, but that's pretty neato.
Along these lines, I've always thought they need more turtles.
...Actually, more quadrupeds in general. Pokemon are getting too human-like.
Some is ok, but ultimately they're animals.

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Mewtwo
Lugia
Ho-oh
Groudon
Kyogre
Rayquaza
Dialga
Palkia
Giratina
Arceus

These Pokemon really need evolutions!!!


lol wut?

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