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The last two generations had noticeable themes to them. For the third generation, it was earth and water. The theme of the fourth generation was space and time. The first two generations didn't seem to have a perceptible theme. Anyway, do you think the fifth generation will have a theme? If so, what do you think the theme will be?


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Phantasms wrote:
The last two generations had noticeable themes to them. For the third generation, it was earth and water. The theme of the fourth generation was space and time. The first two generations didn't seem to have a perceptible theme. Anyway, do you think the fifth generation will have a theme? If so, what do you think the theme will be?


I wouldn't say earth/water and space/time were the themes of the last two games at all. Just themes of two of the legendary Pokémon. I wouldn't really say the games themselves had any real theme. But that's my opinion.

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The last two generations had noticeable themes to them. For the third generation, it was earth and water. The theme of the fourth generation was space and time. The first two generations didn't seem to have a perceptible theme. Anyway, do you think the fifth generation will have a theme? If so, what do you think the theme will be?


I wouldn't say earth/water and space/time were the themes of the last two games at all. Just themes of two of the legendary Pokémon. I wouldn't really say the games themselves had any real theme. But that's my opinion.

Also: Woo! I made one of those trainer card sigs everyone has to show off their teams now! My team is superior though.


Sadly, there is no facepalm emote. RSE centered on the two teams and their efforts to expand the land/sea. Have you ever noticed that hoenn has a lot more water routes than the others? There were also a lot of water pokemon and some fire pokemon introduced with it. Things like the weather institute and the museum add to the nature theme. As for DPP, you should see where I'm going here already. The legendary pokemon had the power of creation and the team wanted to capture the legendaries and control it. These are just my opinions, of course.


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Phantasms wrote:
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The last two generations had noticeable themes to them. For the third generation, it was earth and water. The theme of the fourth generation was space and time. The first two generations didn't seem to have a perceptible theme. Anyway, do you think the fifth generation will have a theme? If so, what do you think the theme will be?


I wouldn't say earth/water and space/time were the themes of the last two games at all. Just themes of two of the legendary Pokémon. I wouldn't really say the games themselves had any real theme. But that's my opinion.

Also: Woo! I made one of those trainer card sigs everyone has to show off their teams now! My team is superior though.


Sadly, there is no facepalm emote. RSE centered on the two teams and their efforts to expand the land/sea. Have you ever noticed that hoenn has a lot more water routes than the others? There were also a lot of water pokemon and some fire pokemon introduced with it. Things like the weather institute and the museum add to the nature theme. As for DPP, you should see where I'm going here already. The legendary pokemon had the power of creation and the team wanted to capture the legendaries and control it. These are just my opinions, of course.



I have never played Gen 3 aside from FireRed.

In Gen 4 though the story, if themed around anything, was creation mythos as a whole. Not space/time. Though that the theme of creation mythos wasn't that strong either, still mainly just focusing on you getting gym badges to go beat the Elite Whores. Still wouldn't say it had too much of a theme. But that's just my opinion, as I've previously stated.

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Well in a way all the gens had a theme. I'm not trying to bash on ksemanr's opinions/thoughts but the 3rd and 4th gens have an obvious theme that is supported throughout the storyline section of the games. The evil teams continuesly try to achieve their one specific goal, unlike Team Rocket who were just trying to take things over just because.

Here's my outlook on the themes.
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1- Trainer theme (it's the first Pokemon RPG)
2- Trainer theme (with a little more mystery and adventure)
3- Balance of Nature (you had to stop Kyogre and Groudon from destroying the world, and in Emerald you use Rayquaza to do it)
4- Creation myth (Team Galactic try to harness the powers of the creation Pokemon to make a new world)
5- Evolution based (they talked about the energy that evolution created in gen 4, so it's somewhere around the idea)
This is just my opinion.

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I don't know but I hope the Team ______'s motives aren't unrealistic. It would never happen but a GTA style plot would be cool.

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what I think the theme of the Gen V games will be...something either stupid or really really bad...

enough of that though, what I want it to be so bad;

1. themed around the time of day or the sun & the moon...what I mean by this is that certain events in the game are altered based on the time of day you are playing the game as well as the appearance of locations being changed the same way...something like this...

- or -

2. themed around some kind of alternate reality not like the distortion world but more like a either virtual reality or a parralel universe kind of like cyber space in MegamanZero but more interactive & not virtual but having a same place look completely different in universe A then in universe B...something like this...

hey, they are running out of stuff to theme due to their drastic pace they've been moving at...I mean Arceus is...see? I mean what else is there for them to do then go forward...going back might just be a very bad idea as it will probably be even more uninteresting then Gen III or rather Gen IV...just stating my opinion here & nothing more...

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Yeah, that reminds me, I hope they come up with a good team this time around. I hated team Galactic.

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Me too...& to think that aside from the team in general, Platinum was suppose to make them have better pokemon but it failed miserely...& I mean big time...oh, & I'm really hoping for the 1st of my 2 suggestions...

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[quote="Ryanh181"]Yeah, that reminds me, I hope they come up with a good team this time around. I hated team Galactic.[/quote

Ya, Back in the old 1st and 2nd Gen days the rockets were badass and horrible and you had to take them down or else.

Maybe that was because i was 5-9 at that period though...

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KingErick, you left out the " ] " portion of this part of your quote " [/quote] " ...on topic though, Team Rocket was true criminals without being too much of a threat to the entire world as oppose to Team Galactic, Aqua & Magma who had to threaten the world by trying to control legendary pokemon just to end up not looking that much like real criminals in the end anyway...

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Maybe that was because i was 5-9 at that period though...


& yes, this is pretty much why that was I'm sure...

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I know these games are for younger kids intentionally, but I would love to see criminals that were more...tactical and smart and were creative, not predictable. Something like Gerard Butler in Law Abiding Citizen...but with less death...

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& besides, Team Rocket did kill a {cubone} 's mother in the kanto games (both the RBY & FRLG games) & Red or your trainer did send that same mother's ghost to the afterlife in the same game so...I don't see why they haven't made realer criminals yet like the ones Dan Roswald discribed...they are still child friendly I mean really...

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The thing I liked most about Team Rocket was that they were so seperate from the whole "Legendaries control the world" mentality. Granted, Mewtwo was all they had in R/B/Y and Lugia and Ho-Oh appeared in G/S/C, but they never once posited that "If we capture Mewtwo, we can rule the world!" It was just, "Let's take over the world some other way. How bout a casino?" Then you went and captured Mewtwo later. And once Gold and Silver rolled around, there best efforts were to take over the Radio Station and evolve Magikarps. I hated Aqua and Magma, and Galactic didn't make me any happier. And did anyone else notice that the only Event Pokemon that's ever played a real role in the games was Arceus? Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Manaphy, and Shaymin do nothing. At all. Why wasn't Team Magma after Deoxys? Mew did play a bit of a part with Team Rocket, I guess; they used his DNA to make Mewtwo, but after that he didn't do anything. Just saying.

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Well, you know, the event pokemon were in the movies so I suppose that's where those things went to

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In Gen 4 though the story, if themed around anything, was creation mythos as a whole

-koff koff- SUNWUKONG CREATION TURTLE. Empoleon doesn't matter.

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-koff koff- SUNWUKONG CREATION TURTLE. Empoleon doesn't matter.


What? I was referring to the whole theme throughout the game of creation mythos, with Dialga and Palkia creating time and space and forming Sinnoh, Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf creating wisdom, emotion and willpower in people, Arceus creating everything, all the books about the creation myths in the Canalave library, etc. Not...Torterra?..... or whatever you're trying to say.

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It's a strange coincidence that both Torterra and Infernape are based on (creation) myths of some American Indian people and the Chinese.

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It's a strange coincidence that both Torterra and Infernape are based on (creation) myths of some American Indian people and the Chinese.


Really? *looks it up on Bulbapedia* Alright, I found what you mean about Torterra, being based on world turtles such as the Xuanwu/Genbu. All bulbapedia has to say about Infernape though is being based on Sun Goku. Got any info on it? sounds interesting.

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ksemanr wrote:
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It's a strange coincidence that both Torterra and Infernape are based on (creation) myths of some American Indian people and the Chinese.


Really? *looks it up on Bulbapedia* Alright, I found what you mean about Torterra, being based on world turtles such as the Xuanwu/Genbu. All bulbapedia has to say about Infernape though is being based on Sun Goku. Got any info on it? sounds interesting.


Son Goku? >.<
Well, it's not really a creation myth, but Infernape is based on Sun Wukong, or the Monkey King.
He's a monkey who did a bunch of stuff, helping bring Buddhist scrolls to the Indians...my original point was that both these Pokemon and the legendaries are based on mythologies.

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I could see dark and light as a theme.

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I see dark/light or sun/moon as a good theme seeing as Zorark kinda fits into those themes.

I also hope they do make the bag guys more intense. What did team Galactic actually do that was so bad. They kidnapped the three beings and then let them go. If team Galactic and team Rocket got in a fist fight team Rocket would totally destroy team Galactic. Wait that wouldn't happen, team Galactic is to "good" to fight anybody :D

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I'm kinda tired of bad guys claiming to be doing things for the 'good of the people.' I enjoyed fighting Team Rocket because they weren't as misguided, but just wanted to be bad. xD

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lol, even team rocket, to an extent wasnt that bad. the worst thing they did was steal and clone pokemon, which team galactic did too. at least cyrus was actually kind of evil. maxie and archie werepushovers, nothing but wannabe big and bad guys. trying to create a larger habitat for one kind of pokemon while killing other pokemon and people XD they were the most pathetic, i think. anyways, back on topic, im hoping that they bring back team rocket in the new generation games, but i doubt it.

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At least they wanted to be bad. I never saw Cyrus as bad as Giovanni, mostly because Giovanni had more secrecy around him.

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If they want to create another 'universe' theme, I'd still say dark/light. Anything else would be sound and gravity and those are pretty lame ideas...

I could see them bring back the original theme of 'Catch Them All.'

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So I hear that people like the 1st option that I put on the table of possibilities for a theme...

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I'm kinda tired of bad guys claiming to be doing things for the 'good of the people.' I enjoyed fighting Team Rocket because they weren't as misguided, but just wanted to be bad. xD


yeah, me too cause it always feels the same in some obvious but annoying way...I want criminals to actually be just that, criminals...like...team rocket was...

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lol, even team rocket, to an extent wasnt that bad. the worst thing they did was steal and clone pokemon, which team galactic did too. at least cyrus was actually kind of evil. maxie and archie werepushovers, nothing but wannabe big and bad guys. trying to create a larger habitat for one kind of pokemon while killing other pokemon and people XD they were the most pathetic, i think. anyways, back on topic, im hoping that they bring back team rocket in the new generation games, but i doubt it.


I don't really care if they bring Team Rocket back per say but at least give Team Rocket some actual competition as far as being criminals go...I mean Team Rocket & I say this again, killed a pokemon as far as RBY is concerned...woah though...

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If they want to create another 'universe' theme, I'd still say dark/light. Anything else would be sound and gravity and those are pretty lame ideas...

I could see them bring back the original theme of 'Catch Them All.'


wow...yeah they could still use Dark/Light theme is they had a Universe themed game 5th Gen but...I would perfer based on my idea that it be positive/negative however...if they do it right in this case, I could mend a bit...

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