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I have a {vigoroth} and I don't know if I should let it evolve to a {slaking} . It's because {slaking} is lazy and sometimes won't attack. But I know that his attack and defense go up if he evolves, right? So is it worth it to evolve it?

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Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:30 pm
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Definitely evolve it. Slaking has incredibly high attack, and even though he can attack only every other turn, this can be put to good use by teaching Slaking Hyper Beam. You see, when he uses Hyper Beam, he does tremendus damage, but as we all know, Hyper Beam makes you recharge the next turn. But! Slaking slacks off on the next turn anyways, so Hyper Beam is an essential move for Slaking.

So, here's the review:

Turn 1: Use Hyper Beam
Turn 2: Slaking loafs around
Turn 3: Use Hyper Beam
Turn 4: Slaking loafs around
Etc. Etc. Etc....

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registeel_rocks77 wrote:
Turn 1: Use Hyper Beam
Turn 2: Slaking loafs around
Turn 3: Use Hyper Beam
Turn 4: Slaking loafs around
Etc. Etc. Etc....


But what do you do about your opponent using Protect/Detect?
I'm not trying to be insolent, that's an honest question. It seems like a problem.

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If your opponent used detect/protect, you'd miss a turn, but that is always what happens. No sweat.

I like the whole hyper beam idea, but if you're planning to fight in the battletower and stuff like that, I wouldn't use Slaking.

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Depends what yer team is. In mt sapphire i had a {vigoroth} cause my team was revolved around anti-stat problems, so it revolved around {vigoroth} and {metagross},so it really depends on your team.

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{vigoroth} is brilliant. Vital spirit (prevents sleep) is good,
so are Vigoroth's atk and spd.
Vigoroth may have lower stats than {slaking} but {vigoroth} is like a {primeape}.

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Usually I find that Slaking's better stats still justifies the evolution, but if you find that Vital Spirit and the ability to attack every turn suits you better, go ahead and use Vigoroth. It is by no means a bad Pokemon even though it's not in its final form.

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Keep in mind when evolving from Vigeroth to Slaking that Slaking will be a MUCH harder Pokemon to raise. Though you can usualy take out a trainer's pokemon (or wild pokemong) in one hit, it'll take time to train it. So be patient.

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For my team I have {regice} {registeel} {swampert} {vigoroth} {kadabra} {rayquaza} , maybe if the opponent uses protect I can use one of the others.[/quote]

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Protect one lasts for the hit used right after it. Slaking has to loaf around after that. There's no time to switch, but you may try again, as Protect or Detect have a less percentage to be used again.

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I personally do not use either {vigoroth} or {slaking} but the {slaking} hyper beam combo works extremely well. But if you want to incorporate {slaking} into your team he is one of the hardest to raise next to {salamence} and the legendaries. Hope that helped you in your decision.

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Antigua wrote:
Protect one lasts for the hit used right after it. Slaking has to loaf around after that. There's no time to switch, but you may try again, as Protect or Detect have a less percentage to be used again.

But since Slaking has to loaf around every other turn, wouldn't their Protect always be 100% accurate? I thought Protect only fails if you use it multiple times in a row. They could just Protect on the turn you use Hyper Beam, and then use another move on the off turn, and be ready to Protect again by the time you can attack.

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Yumecosmos wrote:
Antigua wrote:
Protect one lasts for the hit used right after it. Slaking has to loaf around after that. There's no time to switch, but you may try again, as Protect or Detect have a less percentage to be used again.

But since Slaking has to loaf around every other turn, wouldn't their Protect always be 100% accurate? I thought Protect only fails if you use it multiple times in a row. They could just Protect on the turn you use Hyper Beam, and then use another move on the off turn, and be ready to Protect again by the time you can attack.


Yes I believe that is true, so your only hope is that Protect runs out of PP.

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In single battles,why not let {slaking} use Skill Swap on the enemy?Then your enemy could not attack every second turn. :twisted:


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Psychic Master wrote:
In single battles,why not let {slaking} use Skill Swap on the enemy?Then your enemy could not attack every second turn. :twisted:


One problem: Slaking cannot learn Skill Swap. However, if you have another pokemon do it, it works good in Double Battles.

Something to think about for evolving Vigoroth:

Vigoroth's base attack is 80.
Slaking base attack is 160.

So, even if Vigoroth attacks for two turns, he'd only do as much as Slaking attacking one turn and then loafing, right? Plus, if you use Hyper Beam with Slaking it actually makes him better than Vigoroth, since Vigoroth cannot use an 150 damage move twice in two turns.

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I was thinking that maybe since {slaking} is hard to raise, maybe I should just keep him as a {vigoroth} for now and when he's in a real high level evolve him, would that work?

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Yes.

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I dont know about it....
Evolving a vigoroth doesnt sound that good to me you know..
a vigoroth maybe has lower stats that a slaking,but slaking sleeps every second turn...
I wouldnt evolve if I was you,but I am only suggesting so if you want evolve it....
So I was thinking??
Who is better?
{vigoroth} or {slaking} ??


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Regarding Slaking and the use of Skill Swap, I made a double-battle team like this before. It's in 2v2 Battling Guide Version 4.5 if I'm not wrong =p

The team has a Slaking and a Dusclops. However, psycho_freak also made a similar team, and I think his is slightly better, so here's his team:

{slaking}
Item: Leftovers/Lum Berry
Ability: Traunt

~Bulk Up
~Slack Off
~Return
~Brick Break

{dusclops}
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pressure

~Skill Swap
~Shadow Ball
~OMIT/Confuse Ray
~OMIT/Curse/Toxic

The strategy is this. Slaking starts charging with BulkUp and Dusclops uses SkillSwap on Slaking and then again on the most threatening Pokemon the enemy has. While Slaking is charging with BulkUp it may have to heal with SlakOff. Once Slaking has charged up 3-6 times start sweeping with Return/BrickBreak. Dusclops is also sweeping with ShadowBall though it may also want to use other supporting moves such as ConfuseRay to annoy the opponent. EV's should be in HP and Attack.

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