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I haven't finished Pokemon Sun and Moon yet but I'm quite interested in the concept of the Ultra Beasts. All of these Pokemon are quite different from what I've seen in previous Pokemon titles. And so, I took a bit reading on the Internet and seems people have various ideas about the concept of these Ultra Beasts so I also like to share those ideas and a bit of mine too.

According to the game then the Ultra Beasts are the "living creatures" come from outside the Earth (like the case of Deoxys). However, in Pokemon Sun and Moon they specifically call them as Ultra Beasts which come from the Ultra Space. I don't how the developers come up with this "Ultra Space" idea but one thing can be sured that they aren't originated from Earth and I don't even know whether they can be called as Pokemon or not (as there are no Poke-Ball on Earth can capture them). Although I haven't beaten Lusamine + Nihilego yet, what happened to Lusamine made me think that these guys can be extremely dangerous to Earth, or human in particular.

Most of the ideas on Internet suggest that the developer creates the Ultra Beasts based on the concept of 7 Deadly Sins and while there are no concrete information in-game. I believe this is quite a logic explaination. There are several ideas of what sin each beast may represent, but these are what I agree most:

1) UB01 Symbiont ・Nihilego ・Envy: Nihilego has ability to take shape of its desire target. It can also merge with other human, making Nihilego an ideal beast for the concept of Envy.
2) UB02 Absorbtion ・Buzzwole ・Pride: Buzzwole is a muscular beast with tremendous strength, he also seems to prefer posing, showing off its power. If that's true then it's worthy to be the embodiment of Pride.
3) UB02 Beauty ・Pheromosa ・Lust: Pheromosa has ability to allure all Pokemon which encounters with it, leaving these Pokemon unable to fight, a good idea as Lust.
4) UB03 Lightning ・Xurkitree ・Greed: I'm not really sure about this guy as Greed but according to wikia (if I remember right), this guy has an unending thirst for electricity. It often approaches power plant and drains all of its energy, then it will continue to another power plant. Kinda related to Greed at some point.
5) UB04 Blade ・Kartana ・Wrath: I can imagine why this guy is Wrath. I mean its entire body armed with blades, cutting everything on its wage and everything encounter it.
6) UB04 Blaster ・Celesteela ・Sloth: This colossal guy is quite a lazy guy by itself, as it stays still for most of the time.
7) UB05 Glutton ・Guzzlord ・Gluttony: Basically it eats everything on its path, just like the idea of Gluttony.

On my part, the first time I see these guys, especially Nihilego and Lusamine, it reminds me of the Lovecraftian Horror rather than 7 Deadly Sins (or it's because I don't think about it in the first place). According to Lovecraftian Horror stories then there are cosmic god-like beings who possess extreme knowledge and power which surpass human's capability. They can, and sometimes they will manipulate human community for their own plots. Some human also create cults worshipping these beings and often go insane (like the Cult of Cthulhu). Back to the case of Lusamine, it's quite similar at some point: Lusamine at first tried researching about Ultra Beast to get her husband back. But then gradually she went insane and being too obsessed with them.

Combining the two ideas, it seems Ultra Beasts is the concept from both 7 Deadly Sins and the Lovecraftian stories. Lovecraftian stories act as a foundation to create these Ultra Beasts, and the 7 Deadly Sins act as the way to define characteristics of each Ultra Beast. Personally I think this idea is quite neat. What do you think?
By the way, there is also question: can Ultra Beasts be considered as legendary pokemon? I seek answer from Internet and the answers quite vary. Many people said that they aren't since they are beings from Ultra Space and there are possiblity that there are tons of these out there. Other said that they are all legendary pokemon and I don't know where to start.
I'm also planning to write about the concept of new pokemon sun and moon starters concept but I think that will need more research.
But anyway, thanks for reading this long post :D.


Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:56 pm
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Personally, I think the concept of Ultra Space developed, in part, from the same root of the idea proposed by Zinnia in ORAS, and as a means of helping to flesh out the core concept of multiverse to explain various plot holes, such as the Fairy retcon in particular, but including Megas and Z-moves to a lesser extent. This line of thought technically goes as far back as the third movie, in fact, when you consider that the Unown, and later Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina are confirmed to exist within their own sub-dimensions. Where the Ultra Space actually falls on that scale - between a mere sub-dimension and up to a full alternate universe - remains to be seen, however. They are unlike Deoxys, Elgyem, and other pokémon that orginated from space in this way, at least as far as we know. It's one thing to consider that life formed elsewhere within the same universe; it's another matter entirely to suggest that there's an entire seperate - and apparently accessible - universe that holds pokémon of its own.

With this in mind, and the fact that at the very least, multiple Ultra Beasts of the same species are shown to co-exist suggests that they aren't quite as rare in their universe as the legendaries are in the known universes. While colonies of legendaries aren't unheard of - latias and latios flocks come to mind - this idea provides some interesting implications, such as, if the Ultra Beasts are "normal" pokémon in their dimension, despite being on a legendary level in the main dimensions, what would actual Legendary Ultra Beasts be like? I believe that Ultra Space provides Game Freak with a built in excuse for inserting new pokémon into the franchise mid-generation. It's a slim chance, granted, but there are a few things that make the idea viable, not least of which includes the sheer unknown breach that is the Ultra Space, as well as the fact that Masuda, the man who directed every game from Ruby and Sapphire up through to X and Y, is no longer the acting director.

On topic, I've seen the theories that the Ultra Beasts are meant to represent the seven sins. The theory is not unfounded, I don't think, but it's also a fairly common trope as well. For the most part, it's fairly easy to see how they would fit into the roles you described. However, these pokémon were designed with the idea of being extra-dimensional in mind. This is why they are so different in design, compared to other pokémon...I suppose. When you consider the concept of carnivorous snowflakes, murderous resurrected insects modified with cybernetic components, and demon djinis, things like Nihilego and Kartana aren't that odd. Of the known Ultra Beasts, I would only really consider Xurkitree, Celesteela, and Guzzlord to be truly "out there".

I do want to correct one misconception. It is actually possible to capture the Ultra Beasts in normal pokéballs - it's just more difficult. They have very low capture rates, but Beast Balls become five times more likely to be successful when used on them.

Anyway, welcome to Psypokes. As you might be able to tell, it's kind of slow around here, but hopefully if thought provoking discussion like this can be maintained, we can regain some life around here!


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