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Magic Umbreon wrote:
Exeggutor
Psychic
Mega Drain
Toxic
Leech Seed

Explosion over Toxic

Dragonite
Hyper Beam
Fly
Agility
Ice Punch

Sky Attack over Fly, if he can learn it that is, and something better over Ice Punch.

Chansey / Beedrill
Thunder Wave / Twineedle
Softboiled / Poison Sting
Seismic Toss / Agility
Minimize / Hyper Beam

[color=cyan]Beedrill sucks, go with Chansey, but Special attack (TB or IB) over Minimize

Lapras
Thunderbolt
Surf
Ice Beam
Body Slam

[color=cyan] Sing or Confuse Ray over Thunderbolt, Blizzard over Ice Beam


Rhydon
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Substitute
Counter

Rest over Counter

Gengar
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Fire Punch
Ice Punch / Lick

Hypnosis over a Punch, whichever one


This is a rainbow team I was planning. Beedrill and Gengar's Lick weaken the team but give it a move of every type. A nice novelty, but as Beedrill's stats, Lick and Poison Sting are awful it does not add to the strategy.

The rainbowish strategy is to hit with a wide variety of pok

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Yeh, I agree with most of that.

Beedrill wasn't a plan to use, just there to make it rainbow lol.
Does eggy have enough attack to make use of explosion?
Draggy doesn't learn sky atk. Thunder wave might work instead of agility. Maybe Reflect could work. So, I'll swap Ice Punch (Beam) on Dragonite with Thunder Wave on Chansey.

As I have other ways of inducing paralysis, Body Slam seems less useful than Headbutt, 30% sounds like a nice hax. Gengar can but them to sleep, so Confuse Ray adds variety. So how often is Ice Beam better or worse than Seismic Toss?

So we have:

Exeggutor
Psychic
Mega Drain
Explosion
Leech Seed

Dragonite
Hyper Beam
Fly
Thunder Wave
Reflect

Chansey
Ice Beam
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Minimize

Lapras
Confuse Ray
Surf
Blizzard
Headbutt

Rhydon
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Substitute
Rest

Gengar
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Fire Punch
Hypnosis

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What's going on here? There hasn't been any posts for weeks...

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Magic Umbreon wrote:
Exeggutor
Psychic
Mega Drain
Explosion
Leech Seed

Looks okay here. perhaps Sleep Powder of Leech Seed since you already have Mega Drain

Dragonite
Hyper Beam
Fly
Thunder Wave
Reflect

Fine.

Chansey
Ice Beam
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Minimize

Thunder Wave over Minimize if possible

Lapras
Confuse Ray
Surf
Blizzard
Headbutt

Body Slam over Headbutt if possible

Rhydon
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Substitute
Rest

Fine.

Gengar
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Fire Punch
Hypnosis

Fine.

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uhm hi


i want to get my team rated

i gots

Tauros
Hyper Beam
Blizzard
Earthquake
Double-Edge

Scyther/Cloyster
Hyper Beam/Ice Beam
Swords Dance/Explsion
Agility/Supersonic
Slash/Surf

Snorlax
Double-Edge
Body Slam
Hyper Beam
Rest

Chansey
Softboiled
Counter
Sing
Thunder Bolt

Alakazam
Recover
Thunder wave
Psychic
Psybeam

Slowbro/Lapras
Amnesia/Ice Beam
Psychic/Body Slam
Surf/Hidro Pump
Rest/Sing

between my Slowbro/Lapras and Cloyster/Scyther
who am i better of with?

or could i take out someone else for them?
or get a different pokemon?


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Bryanistehnoob wrote:


Tauros
Hyper Beam
Blizzard
Earthquake
Double-Edge

Body Slam over Double-Edge if you can.[/cyan]

Scyther/Cloyster
Hyper Beam/Ice Beam
Swords Dance/Explsion
Agility/Supersonic
Slash/Surf

[color=cyan]Use Cloyster, and Blizzard over Ice Beam and Clamp over Surf. Hyper Beam over Supersonic if you can.


Snorlax
Double-Edge
Body Slam
Hyper Beam
Rest

Fine.

Chansey
Softboiled
Counter
Sing
Thunder Bolt

Thunder Wave over Sing or Counter.

Alakazam
Recover
Thunder wave
Psychic
Psybeam

Seismic Toss over Psybeam for other Psychics.

Slowbro/Lapras
Amnesia/Ice Beam
Psychic/Body Slam
Surf/Hidro Pump
Rest/Sing

[color=cyan]Both are really good, so it's your choice. If you choose Slowbro, Thunder Wave over Surf is an option. If Lapras, Confuse Ray over Hydro Pump.


You only have one Sleeper, and that's Lapras, if you choose her. Perhaps an Exeggutor, Jynx, or even Gengar over Lapras/Slowbro, if you want.

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Sneaky_Sneasel wrote:
Bryanistehnoob wrote:


Tauros
Hyper Beam
Blizzard
Earthquake
Double-Edge

Body Slam over Double-Edge if you can.[/cyan]

Scyther/Cloyster
Hyper Beam/Ice Beam
Swords Dance/Explsion
Agility/Supersonic
Slash/Surf

[color=cyan]Use Cloyster, and Blizzard over Ice Beam and Clamp over Surf. Hyper Beam over Supersonic if you can.


Snorlax
Double-Edge
Body Slam
Hyper Beam
Rest

Fine.

Chansey
Softboiled
Counter
Sing
Thunder Bolt

Thunder Wave over Sing or Counter.

Alakazam
Recover
Thunder wave
Psychic
Psybeam

Seismic Toss over Psybeam for other Psychics.

Slowbro/Lapras
Amnesia/Ice Beam
Psychic/Body Slam
Surf/Hidro Pump
Rest/Sing

[color=cyan]Both are really good, so it's your choice. If you choose Slowbro, Thunder Wave over Surf is an option. If Lapras, Confuse Ray over Hydro Pump.


You only have one Sleeper, and that's Lapras, if you choose her. Perhaps an Exeggutor, Jynx, or even Gengar over Lapras/Slowbro, if you want.



well thanks for the help ill use cloyster
and i kinda alredy used blizzard and thunder wave and Clamp isnt allowed were i play =(
and the Seismic toss is preatty good idea
and i think ill take the slowbro but ima keep surf

thx for the recommandations


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Any suggestions?

{mew}
Psychic
Earthquake
Swords Dance
Softboiled

Notes: Mixed sweeper, my favorite pokemon.

{mewtwo}
Psychic
Ice Beam/Blizzard (Which one should I use?)
Amnesia
Recover

Notes: Umm... yeah.

{zapdos}
Thunderbolt
Drill Peck
Thunder Wave
Light Screen

Notes: Light Screen to stop those pesky special sweepers (Mewtwos especially).

{rhydon}
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Substitute
Rest

Notes: Self-explanitory.

{slowbro}
Surf
Amnesia
Withdraw
Rest

Notes: Great if you could pull off the Withdraw and Amnesia 6 times each, I try to swap it in when the opponent uses Rest.

{snorlax}
Body Slam
Earthquake
Double Team
Rest

Notes: Great combo in Double Team and Rest.


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blue version: first pokemon game i ever owned...to be more precise first video game i ever owned! lets see if i can remember...

{jolteon}
thunderbolt
quick attack
pin missle
i think sand attack lol

{charizard}
flamethrower
fire blast
wing attack i think
slash

(those were the only 2 i ever trained)
but i also had...

{alakazam}
psychic
confusion
psybeam
reflect

{gyarados}
surf
hyper beam
ice beam
bite

{dugtrio}
dig
slash
earthquake
fissure

{pidgeot}
fly
wing attack
sky attack
gust? lol

remember i was very young, and i could hardly remember those, but i think i got alot of my rivals pkmn after i saw how cool they looked :)
dont be to harsh


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My RBY Team let me load red up real quick........................

{venusaur}
Venusaur Lv.83
Solarbeam
Razorleaf
Mega Drain
Sleep Powder

{pidgeot}
Pidgeot Lv.79
Wing Attack
Sky Attack
Gust
Tackle

{arcanine}
Arcanine LV.81
Fire Blast TM
Flamethrower
Bite
Leer

{articuno}
Articuno Lv.76
Ice Beam
Blizzard
Mist
Fly

{jolteon}
Jolteon Lv.70
Thunder
Thunderbolt
Pin Missle
Quick Attack

{rhydon}
Rhydon Lv..65
Earthquake
Rockslide TM
Takedown
Dig TM

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Is this a good moveset for Mew?

{mew}

Psychic
Softboiled
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

I was thinking of switching a move for Earthquake...

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i remember when i was very young, about 9 i guess, i loved blastoise - it was my fav pokemon. now it is not. anyways, that is the only pokemon i used.
it got up to level 88 i think.

blastoise
bite
surf
ice beam
earthquake

it was the only pokemon i used in the game to beat the elite four. the only wild battles it received were a few level ups at the beginning of the game when i got it and when i beat the game i went to the power plant to train, which i now realize is a VERY bad place to train :oops: - only about 200 - 300 EXP per pokemon. i got about 5 levels or so training at the power plant. that is sad - my pokemon is in the eighties and all its fighting is level 20 pokes which give 200-300 exp. lol.

oh yea, btw it is red version and i could not trade (no link cable) and also i had no gameshark


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Wobbi wrote:
i remember when i was very young, about 9 i guess, i loved blastoise - it was my fav pokemon. now it is not. anyways, that is the only pokemon i used.
it got up to level 88 i think.

blastoise
bite
surf
ice beam
earthquake

it was the only pokemon i used in the game to beat the elite four. the only wild battles it received were a few level ups at the beginning of the game when i got it and when i beat the game i went to the power plant to train, which i now realize is a VERY bad place to train :oops: - only about 200 - 300 EXP per pokemon. i got about 5 levels or so training at the power plant. that is sad - my pokemon is in the eighties and all its fighting is level 20 pokes which give 200-300 exp. lol.

oh yea, btw it is red version and i could not trade (no link cable) and also i had no gameshark


Can you get the blizzard TM? 108 is the average damage, in RBY (screwy system). I'd go with Skull Bash, for power, or counter, instead of bite.

Okay, I'll admit, I'm no expert, but this guy seems to be: http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy ... rategy.txt


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btw peanut lover, you can get blizzard - tm 14

i either had ice beam or blizzard (made em years ago forgot) and maybe skull bash over earthquake i am not sure. i might have had submission on there, but not counter

and your link doesn't work (or at least when i click it)


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the link works for me...

Anyway, go to gamefaqs.com, type pokemon crystal (thats the only one i guarantee), and click on Strategy Guide (RJones is the author), below the walkthroughs (on this page: http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbcolo ... 75087.html )


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Just my Pokemon Blue team

{blastoise}LV.100
Hydro Pump
Earthquake
Icebeam
Skull Bash

{nidoking}LV.100
Horn Drill
Double Kick
Focus Energy
Surf

{gengar}LV.100
Thunder Bolt
Mega Drain
Psychic
Hypnosis

{muk}LV.100
Sludge
Body Slam
Screech
Acid Armor

{snorlax}LV.100
Hyper Beam
Rock Slide
Body Slam
Rest

{mewtwo}LV.100
Psychic
Thunder Punch
Recover
Amnesia

{zapdos}LV.100
Thunder
Fly
Agility
Light Screen

{kabutops}LV.100
Hydro Pump
Submission
Swords Dance
Slash

It's a shame how Kabutops can't get Rockslide. :cry:

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Pokemaniac wrote:
Just my Pokemon Blue team

{blastoise} LV.100
Hydro Pump
Earthquake
Icebeam
Skull Bash
Surf > Hydro Pump, Blizzard > Ice Beam (Back in RBY, blizzard had better accuracy). Earthquake sounds good, but counter or substitute may be better (sub bash).

{nidoking} LV.100
Horn Drill
Double Kick
Focus Energy
Surf
My, my. No poisons in an RBY team, just because of the domination by psyhcics. But, it does a pretty good job of overcoming. Focus Energy is good, but you will want Earthquake, T-bolt, and Ice Beam/Blizzard.

{gengar} LV.100
Thunder Bolt
Mega Drain
Psychic
Hypnosis
Trade back ice punch, possibly over mega drain. Otherwise, you're fine.

{muk} LV.100
Sludge
Body Slam
Screech
Acid Armor
3 Poisons is very bad. No. Get another psyhcic. Like 'Zam, Jynx, Slowbro, or Starmie.

{snorlax} LV.100
Hyper Beam
Rock Slide
Body Slam
Rest
No need for hyper beam and body slam. Just BS. EQ instead.

{mewtwo} LV.100
Psychic
Thunder Punch
Recover
Amnesia
T-bolt > T-punch.

{zapdos} LV.100
Thunder
Fly
Agility
Light Screen
Thunderbolt + DrillPeck > Thunder + Fly.

{kabutops} LV.100
Hydro Pump
Submission
Swords Dance
Slash
I know that I may be ridiculed, but i'm about to reccomend *dumdumdum* DIG. A good attack, no EQ.

It's a shame how Kabutops can't get Rockslide. :cry:



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My RBY team im going to face my friend with. I think its relatively decent but I think it has a blind spot or two.

{venusaur}
Razor Leaf
Body Slam
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed

Strategy: Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, Then use CH from Razor Leaf to own, Body Slam 4 everything Razor Leaf is 4x weak against

{lapras}
Surf
Ice Beam
Confuse Ray
Body Slam

Strategy : Confuse Ray + Bodyslam 4 parafusion and/or pound away with Surf / Ice beam

{flareon}
Double Team
Flamethrower
Swift
Reflect

Strategy: Relect to Raise poor defense, Double Team if posible, Then pound away with Swift / Flamethrower using Flareons good Attack/ Special

{dragonite}
Thunder Wave
Hyper Beam
Surf
Thunderbolt

Current Strategy : No Clue, feel free to suggest a new pokemon here if you wish

{aerodactyl}
Wing Attack
Dragon Rage
Double Team
Hyper Beam

Current Strategy : Hopefully get a fast Double Team or two and nail a lucky miss. Wing Attack + Dragon Rage to Damage consistently, then finish of with Hyper Beam

{alakazam}
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
Thunder Wave? / Double Team? / Seismic toss?

Current Strategy : Reflect to Raise Defense, Then Sweep with Psychic. Confused on the last slot. Im leaning toward Seismic Toss.

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abloomon4 - Okay, maybe I can make some suggestions:

Venusaur - Yes, most in RBY start with a sleeper, but one problem - the 2 biggest sleepers kill this one (Jynx and Exeggcutor). Instead, go with toxic. Remember, Leech Seed runs on the same counter as Toxic. So, you get back more hp, and deal ALOT more damage. Now, what is 4x resist to Razor Leaf? I don't know anything but Dragonite - in any case, go with earthquake.

Lapras: TANK!!! It needs Rest, trust me. What's the hp rank, like 5 in 81, right? Then again, What you have is fine. I typically reccomend 4 of the following: Rest, Confuse Ray, Psychic, T-bolt, Ice Beam, Surf, BodySlam/SkullBash. Not Blizzard, here, only because this is going to last a long time, and you will run out of pp.

Flareon - You joined psypoke, right? So, you have brains. Use them properly, and get a different pokemon, please!

Dragonite: Blizzard NEEDS to be on here. Trust me. Also, Double Edge > Hyper Beam. T-wave is good, because freeze is rare. Can you trade to GSC? If so, agility or haze (If using haze, be sure not to haz a frozen/paralyzed opoponent.

Aerodactyl - Lets start over. Headbutt flinches quite often. EQ is powerful. Rock Slide is powerful, and has stab. For the last move, Mimic is good on occasion, or Supersonic because confusion is awesome (though the accuracy isn't). You could run fire blast, to kill of grasses and ice types (by-by jynx). You could run swift because there isn't much else.

Alakazam - The last move should have 2 more possibilities - Thunderpunch and Ice punch. Definately not double team, so you have 4 viable choices.

Now, you need 2 things - a sleeper, and another pokemon (flareon really is horrible, i'm sorry). Usually, RBY teams have 2 psychics, and you only have 1. You need a fast, dependable sleeper (Lapras can sing, but it will be put to sleep first). So, Jynx with a Lovely Kiss, Ice beam, Psychic, and something else is a good idea.Bubble Beam for hitting more, substitute to prevent ailments, and s-toss for constant damage.


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My Blue needs rating

{wartortle} Level 32

Bubblebeam
Ice Beam
Mega Punch
Withdraw

{farfetch'd} (Traded for {spearow} ) Level 20

Fly
Cut
Razor Wind
Sand Attack

{nidorina} level 24
Thunderbolt
Double-Edge
Don't ask where I found the TM Horn Drill.
Poison Sting

{raichu} Level 16
Thundershock
Quick Attack
Thunder Wave
Flash

{diglett} Level 25

Scratch
Growl
Dig :D
Rock Slide

Abra level 6
Teleport

Is there a TM for Horn Drill or is my game glitched?

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Meeps wrote:
Is there a TM for Horn Drill or is my game glitched?


Yes there is, its TM 07, and its found in the Team Rocket Game Corner.

Anyway, I'd like my Gengar rated

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Lvl 100
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Dream Eater
Night Shade
Psychic

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Its about time - I've been waiting for RBY rates for so long.


Meeps wrote:
My Blue needs rating

{wartortle} Level 32

Bubblebeam
Ice Beam
Mega Punch
Withdraw
Skull Bash > Withdraw. Surf > Bubble Beam. Counter > Mega Punch. Surf > Bubblebeam is obvious, for power. Skull Bash not only raises your defense (Withdraw), but also is a 100% accurate, 100 power normal move, compared to Mega Punch with 80 power, and 85% accuracy. Blizzard is an option > ice beam, but the low pp on a pokemon that can stick around isn't that good. The last move is a tossup - couner is good for physical sweepers, but leaves you vulnerable with low hp, and can fail with special moves, if not planned for. Thats about it.

{farfetch'd} (Traded for {spearow} ) Level 20

Fly
Cut
Razor Wind
Sand Attack
Dodrio > Fearow > Pidgeotto > Farfetch'd. Thats how bad this guy is. Trust me.

{nidorina} level 24
Thunderbolt
Double-Edge
Don't ask where I found the TM Horn Drill.
Poison Sting
Nidoking > Nidoqueen. EQ, Blizzard, T-bolt, Rock Slide.

{raichu} Level 16
Thundershock
Quick Attack
Thunder Wave
Flash
Electabuzz > Raichu.

{diglett} Level 25

Scratch
Growl
Dig :D
Rock Slide
Sandslash may be a better bargain. Or a rhydon.

Abra level 6
Teleport
Alakazam/Jynx/Slowbro/Starmie > Abra. You actually should have 2 psychics in RBY teams. Psychic would be a definate. As is recover, when possible. Elemental punches are available through GSC. Amnesia for slowbro helps. T-bolt on starmie, along with ice beam, psychic, and surf, is good, with recover in there. Too many options.


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Gengar
~Psychic
~T-bolt
~Ice Punch/Explosion/Fire Punch/Haze/Confuse Ray
~Ice Punch/Explosion/Fire Punch/Haze/Confuse Ray

Lots of GSC Tradebacks. Trust me. Its good. Hypnosis/DreamEater sucks, unfortunately. Jynx is better at that. Night shade hits almost noone worse than the other moves (doesn't hit normals, and you wouldn't leave it in against psychic, would you? Pychic takes care of fighting, while t-bolt takes care of waters. Get my drift?).


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It's not much to brag about, but here's my team.

{charizard} lv 100
Flamethrower
Fly
Slash
Wing Attack
Scary Face

{poliwrath} lv 98
Body Slam
Submission
Hypnosis
Surf

{victreebell} lv 94
Stun Spore
Poison Poder
Razor Leaf
Acid

{gengar} lv100
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Hypnosis
Dream Eater

{golem} lv 99
Earthquake
Explosion
Magnitude
Substitute

{mew} lv100
Psychic
Thunder
Fire Blast
Blizzard

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Eon wrote:
It's not much to brag about, but here's my team.

{charizard} lv 100
Flamethrower
Fly
Slash
Wing Attack
Scary Face
Doesn't get scary face. Swords Dance, EQ, Rock Slide, and either flamethrower, slash, or fly (in order of preference). Jynx and grasses killed by fire blast, slash becausen it hits hard, fly for the attack boost by sswords dance and stab and good hits on exeggcutor.

{poliwrath} lv 98
Body Slam
Submission
Hypnosis
Surf
Go with blizzard > hypnosis. Or amnesia. Or earthquake. Actually, a slowbro would do much better :)

{victreebell} lv 94
Stun Spore
Poison Poder
Razor Leaf
Acid
An inferior venusaur. Exeggutor does sleep powder, poison powder, and stun spore. And, it gets stab in psychic, leaving it with less weaknesses (psychic weakness in RBY = DEATH, unless you are machamp).

{gengar} lv100
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Ice punch is a trade back. Hypnosis/Dream Eater is unreliable. Go with Psychic and explosion instead.

{golem} lv 99
Earthquake
Explosion
Magnitude
Substitute
EQ, Rock Slide, Explosion, Double-Edge/Submission/may as well be empty. That is standard. Substitute is slow and won't last. Manitude is outdone by EQ.

{mew} lv100
Psychic
Thunder
Fire Blast
Blizzard
Good with blizzard. Bad with Thunder and fire blast. Fire is outclassed by ice in type coverage. And, some glitch with thunder/blizzard made blizzard 90% accurate all times. Go for Softboiled and thunderbolt instead.


I hope that this helped.


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Fallacies in the RBY metagame:

1. Swords Dance and Slash should be used together. No. In RBY, Critical Hits completely ignore stat boosts. Thus, Swords Dancing up only to Slash things is a complete waste of time on everything with more than base 60 Speed, since Pokemon that fast will CH 99.6% of the time. (That statistic was not made up on the spot; there is a 1-in-256 chance for something like Slash to not CH when used by something like Charizard.)

2. Substitute and Focus Energy should be used. Unless you're playing in Stadium, these moves suck. Substitute does not protect you from stat drops or statuses like paralysis. Focus Energy doesn't do a damn thing, period. Sub is really only used on Rhydon in competitive battling, so it can survive 4x attacks, and that's only after a ton of paralysis support.

3. Hyper Beam and Blizzard are bad moves. No. Again, you're thinking with the mindset for later metagames. In RBY, Hyper Beam is often a key move that finishes off opponents with no drawbacks. You don't suffer from the recharging period if you KO your opponent's Pokemon unless you're playing in Stadium. Thus, in-game teams will greatly benefit from Hyper Beam. Also, Blizzard has 90% accuracy in this generation and generally outclasses Ice Beam unless you're using something that survives using all 8PP of Blizzard, like Chansey or Lapras.

4. Everybody plays in Stadium with GSC Tradeback moves. They don't, so stop recommending moves like Subsitute on anything or Ice Punch on things who only learn it in GSC. Only Hitmonchan and Jynx/Electabuzz/Magmar learn the elemental Punches naturally in RBY, with Hitmonchan being the only one who gets all three, and Hitmonchan sucks with all of them while the others have better elemental moves to be using.

Other things:
-Wing Attack, with its amazing 35 BP in RBY, should never used under any circumstances.
-Haze is not really useful in RBY since it heals the opponent's stat changes and statuses but not your own statuses.
-Counter is somewhat useful, despite only working on Fighting/Normal in RBY, because Normal moves are everywhere.
-Fighting moves like Submission should never be used outside of Fighting Pokemon for STAB. EQ handles Rocks just fine.
-Psychic Pokemon can easily squash every Bug in RBY. Lick doesn't even hit them. Psychics have no weak, basically.



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