They both look alright. Better than the other ones. (in my opinion) The girl kinda looks like the Hoenn Gym Leader Flannery in a way, though.

um....

They aren't nearly that big, in fact, you need to zoom in to find them xD

@ AceTrainer- If ash ruined the game why do you play?

@ Ajit- Very true, since there is a totally hidden world of pokemon with numbers and calculations they should make it more mature.


Please tell that 10 year old girls who watch Lady Gaga and wear makeup to look older and pre-teen guys who played modern warfare 2 non stop and look at "bad stuff" at the internet are not gonna play Pokemon because they make it more serious and put in a more mature lead character?

It's like with wrestling during the attitude era- you market it to teens and you will clean up the money. Similarly, since the wrestling attitude era ended and they marketed to kids, their profits and popularity have fallen.

Teens = money

Every guy on my football teams play games. make a mature game and you could a good chunk of 50 million teenagers to buy it. What happens is people play pokemon and outgrow it because the game has frozen at the 10 year old mindset.

Bust size = age? Seriously? Come on people, there are 80 year old women with "A" cups. Not only that, remember, this is a Japanese developed game.. marketed to japanese people. Average size is considerably smaller than the "western" ideal of huge knockers.

My biggest beef is the purses. Seriously? What girl (and boy for that matter) that is touting a look like is going to go on a backpacking journey with a handbag?

Anyway, I like these character sprites a lot better than the previous ones. The last few have just been horrible. I'm just happy the cap is back to being tipped forward..

@ Frost- Kids like to act like grown ups.

Making a slightly edgier game will get more kids because they think it is cool.

We both know as kids we liked stuff like that. Currently a lot of kids stop playing at 11 or 12 because they think its becoming kind of stupid. I know because i have a brother that age.

Make it slightly older and capture both markets.

Alright, just because the trainer age is supposedly a tiny bit older, doesn't mean we're getting "mature" themes. I can almost guarantee you that the gameplay will still be just as kiddy and camp-filled. Just look at the starter Pokemon. I mean the Red/Blue starters looked a million times more beastly, so that kinda says something.

If they were really "maturing" the game, the girl would have an appropriate chest, and the starters wouldn't be so lame looking. Really, I highly doubt that anything in game will feel like it's meant for older people. Older trainers is most likely, at best, a gimmick.

What I meant was that her breast aren't really the right size or even visable for that matter, especially compared to her head which is kind of big in comparison & adding just a little more bust size to her would not even hurt a fly...


So what!, I wouldn't care about it if they were actually there but they aren't so when I look at her head in comparison it bring up the question of what happened here, just saying, no need to jump to conclusions or whatever, this is a game, not real life, just saying...


This kind of explains why I am even bringing up the fact that the female's chest is not appropiate, since the trainers are older, I would like to see it more & I don't see it with the female trainer almost at all really except her slightly increased height & face...

Oh, well I'm done with that as it's too late to complain about something like that with the design done & all & I believe that she most likely will be older then 12 which is why I even brought it up at all...

Now I want to talk about the Male character's wardrobe, any thoughs here?...I myself see it not being a good idea for him to wear those colors & have both brown eyes & brown hair at the same time...it looks bad when putting this into consideration especially the color Red...

It's not a purse, it's called a satchel. Indiana Jones wears one.

I don't really care a ton about the character art, as when I'm playing my game, my character is only a tiny handful of pixels on my DS screen. It's not much to really be able to scrutinize what they look like, as long as species and gender are apparent.

Going from the released art...The female looks like a redneck to me, but I've never been one to complain about short shorts. Her design is okay. The male character's eyes are the exact same shade of brown as his hair, which makes his whole face look really bland. I think that would really need to be changed before I could like it.

At least He's not wearing an orange beret.

Good, good point here I mean I don't mind the beret on the Platinum male character but it looked terrible on the DP male character (I know they were the same person but still)


Yeah it does so this too, this too...

I think they look fantastic, and they're keeping up with what's popular in entertainment everywhere right now.
They look more mature than previous characters.

Male - it's remarkably difficult to 'age' a cartoon boy. Outside of adding awkward facial stubble or giving him acne, all they could do was update his hair.
Young boys wear the same types of clothing as older boys, so they couldn't modify those too much, either.
I think they did fine with him.

Female - Basically all they did was take away any inkling of pants and make her hair bigger.
They're taking the 'Lady Gaga' approach to her look, for lack of a better term, which is what a lot of young girls want to look like.
Not Gaga in the sense that they wear giant black flowers or dead Kermits all over their bodies, but less pants and more hair/makeup.

They're trying to appeal to the younger generation by changing with the times.
Kids don't want to be 'young' anymore. Well, we/they never Did, but now there are so many Pokemon knockoffs, of course Gamefreak had to make a few changes to compete.
Lord knows Yu-Gi-Oh is more mature now, while Bakugan is sticking to little kids.
I think Pokemon's remaining in the middle, and doing a good job at it.

I'm rambling.
I think they did great.

I personally like the older protagonists. It's a nice change from the cookie-cutter rookie ten-year-old Pokemon master thing...

some avatars are good, some are through the floor crappy (i'm talking about the male in dp; my most hated avatar). i just wish they would do something a little different; red, ethan, and (wth are they going to call him, black?? white?? yellow?? not racist, i'm asian) new guy all wear caps and look similar. like the hair on the female tho idk y. but the guy looks a little bland. but either way, that's probably not going to matter considering he'll be about a cm high (not good with measurements lol idk if that's rite) and you won't be able to see detail. i still think that if they do something along the lines of protecting or doing a task for someone (like my father gets sick scenario) the older age would make sense.

THIS

This exactly for better or for worse, jk, jk...
This exactly...

hey, i was looking at the pics again, and did anyone else notice they're wearing poketches?? they've made a comeback!! which means that menu from hgss was short-lived (probably) but the apps were more useful

They probably are going to use features from both this time around only have them be features of the Poketch instead...I hope they do this cause I actually welcomed the HGSS menu with open arms to the point where I actually used the stylus(spelling) pretty much all the time & am glad I did so...

Either the PokEtch will replace the PokeWhateveritis as a menu button, or it will be like three buttons on the side. I say three, as in one to page up, one to page down, and one to return to the home menu.

Or, that could just be replaced by the X key, which also returns to the home menu.

Hahhaha, I've been so lost, because for all this time (on the games) I've read "Poketch" as "Poketech".
So I was all "what are these guys talking about? I've never heard of a 'Poketch', so why is one 'making a comeback'?"
Oops.

I hope they make it easier to navigate. I HATE scrolling and scrolling and scrolling just to get where I want.
Like, even if all they do is replace the numbers (that pop up when you rapid-scroll) with the names of the apps, I'll be more than elated.

However, I know they'll do more.
Excited to see what.

On the actual characters.

If they really wanted to age the kids, they should have made the girl way taller than the guy. Lord knows when I was 12 all the girls in my class were taller than me.

I never really took into account the age of the protagonists...I assumed they were older, like 16 older. That's what they looked like to me, despite my actually knowing how old they were. I dunno, they never looked 10 to me. Take Red for example, he looks like he's in his 20's and about to kill someone.

On the female character...at least her ingame sprite looks promising...on the male character...he's clearly the better designed of the 2 imo, I can't wait to see the trainers' Artwork for when you look at the trainer card & during the battle sequence...

yeah, but there's nothing really exciting or new about either of them... (not like it matters either way). but i agree with Lightshayde about the protagonists looking older (though i would place Red at about 18). there's no way they're all ten. Copycat is probably ten. tbh, these look younger than some of the previous characters.... (though not by much).