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the first generation had 5: Mewtwo, mew and the bird trio

the second generation had 6: Lugia, Ho-oh, Celebi, dog trio

the third geberation had 10: Rayquaza, Kyogre, Groudon, Latias, Latios, Jirachi, Deoxys and the regi trio

this generation has 12: I don't know all their names but I've seen them in the dex on this site.

thats a grand total of 33 legendaries. Why the hell do we need so many? How can they be called rare when there's so damn many of them?

What really annoys me is that it's so easy to win with them that I never use them and by making so many it reduces the number of pokemon I'm actually willing to use, as well as the ones I can even obtain, since so many of them are aquired through nintendo events, which never actually show up in Queensland where I live.

i know a lot of people think legendaries are cool, but they're all the same, high powered pokemon that win the match instantaniously once they come out, using them requires no skill, merely the ability to push the "fight" button.

even pokemon that are'nt considered legendary like Rotom and Metagross can still only be nabbed just the once, i know usually you would'nt want more than one, but it just irritates me that so many pokemon are like this.

okay, I'll shut up now.


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So many legendaries. How can we catch them all. After all we will get only one master ball. right :?


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Way too many 0obers for noobs who can't train to make a semi-succesful party out of it. *BARF*

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No one said you had to use them. They're like very nice trophies. I happen to be very fond of the legendary Pokemon. All of them.

But there are kinda too many now..

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Well I believe that not all of the Pokemon that you've listed are actually legendary, like the regi's, and latios and latias have been noted as not legendary at some major pokemon events like Pokemon Rocks America. Maybe i'm mistaken with some of thoughts i've said, if so I apologize.


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Miuzuki wrote:
Well I believe that not all of the Pokemon that you've listed are actually legendary, like the regi's, and latios and latias have been noted as not legendary at some major pokemon events like Pokemon Rocks America. Maybe i'm mistaken with some of thoughts i've said, if so I apologize.

Technically you are mistaken on those two points. The Regis and the Eon Twins are unbreedable and incredibly hard to capture. (The only ones really debated on are Manaphy, Phione, and Rotom.) I still find it amazing I caught Latias with a Net Ball...
More to the point, I believe they overdid it on the legendary factor there, but then again there are non-legendaries that do better than the legendaries: Alakazam, Metagross and Slaking are all noteworthy examples, for their great stats and movepool. (Actually Slaking needs TMs to be more useful but the other two don't.)
I do find it kind of irritating that some Pokemon are only got at Nintendo events. I mean, if you can only get this Pokemon for about a week, then it never shows up again legit, there's no point to it really. It might as well not exist - I think that has incited anger in many people, as the Nintendo Events in the western world all appear in New York City! None in Australia (which I have heard from Sefrin), and also none in Canada (told by Blazikendude). That's rather unfair on the rest of us. I mean, I live on the US West Coast, but I wouldn't waste my time going to a bustling place like New York (Anaheim Convention Center was bad enough...*shudder*) just for the sake of one additional Pokemon to my team. And strangely enough, the unobtainables have not-as-good stats as other legendaries (exc. Arceus), which would make it kinda stupid. I wish they would now have Nintendo events via Wi-Fi so anyone is in on the deal.
OK my rant is over now, but I believe you got the point.

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Tyranny wrote:
Way too many 0obers for noobs who can't train to make a semi-succesful party out of it. *BARF*

Agreed. They're overrated with awful movesets.

I hate there being so many legendaries in this generation, I can't remember how to get each of them. That's why I preferred Ruby/Saphhire, simple, easy ways to get to them and catch them. Also, fun.

Getting that hedgehog thing is pointless. It looks absolutely crap and you pay a gazillion (£/$/E/?) to get to an event for a video game save. Awfully organized.

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Personally? I'm not the least bit annoyed about the 4th gen legendary Pokemon. Between Mystery Gift's compatibility with WiFi, the GTS, and the fact that only two of them are runners, not even three like GS, none of them seem that impossible to get legitimately. Sure, if there is some kind of WiFi event to access Darkrai, Shaymin, or Arcerus, it may take some time before those plans are implemented, but I've got faith in the system.

What really grinds my gears :P is how increasingly difficult it gets to obtain legit versions of the previous-gen Pokemon. Especially Mew, Celebi, and Jirachi. The 3rd gen had a decent system for allowing most legendaries to be obtained, but so many of them revolved around costly game purchases (XD, Colosseum bonus disks - and one of them was Japanese!) and event items. And can we expect Nintendo to rehash the Kanto (or Johto) regions every single time there's a new-gen series to justify how to capture the birds or dogs or Mewtwo?

I'm also annoyed about obtaining the previous-gen starters, but only to an extent since those can always be bred. Would've liked Emerald's way of adding Johto starters to be repeated in DP, though.


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I have every legendary from every game on my pearl, and the only one i've ever really used is Darkrai, he's not uber uber strong, not difficult to catch, but he gets the job done. (I did'nt have to go to an event to get him either... :twisted: )

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I have every legendary too!
Its good that theres alot of them, makes things more intresting, and keeps more storylines in the game!

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You are right! The legendaries in Gold, Silver, and Crystal all make the game better and keep the story going, and in Diamond and Pearl the legendaries before the Elite four keep the story going, and the rest bring up cool mysteries.

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I was just commenting on this to my boyfriend the other day. I realized there are just a TON of legendary pokémon.

Granted, it's not a bad thing, even though it's quite hard to get some of the older one, and a ton of them run, but they're okay.

Well, not really okay. They're okay in the sence that there's an actual challenge in getting them all legit. Using them in battle is another thing.

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I have every legendary from every game on my pearl, and the only one i've ever really used is Darkrai, he's not uber uber strong, not difficult to catch, but he gets the job done. (I did'nt have to go to an event to get him either... :twisted: )

Darkrai is way uber. Once it puts you to sleep, you're hosed. Unless you have a pokémon that can't be put to sleep, you're going down. It's ability even saps your HP passively. Even if you berry yourself awake, it's speed is high enough that it'll be putting you back to sleep and eating your dreams again shortly.

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In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with using an Uber ingame or whatever, or even with battles between your friends. But in popular opinion, it takes the point out of the game to use a team of all ubers. My view on them is the exact same as blu-suicune's: they make very nice trophies. A lot of my favorite pokemon are Ubers, there's nothing wrong with using one in a team.

I do beleive, however, that there are getting to be too many legendaries. Okay, the Kanto Legendaries I like, same with Johto, but why on Earth do we need three giant, walking robots in Hoenn? To make it worse, there's ANOTHER ONE IN SINNOH! And what on Earth are Cresellia and Heatran supposed to be? Not to mention Shaymin? Toning down the number of legendaries would be nice, along with adding some deeper plot to obtaining them rather than "oh no my son needs a Lunar Wing!" Then taking a thiry-second boat ride, walking fifty steps, leaving, then throwing a masterball at something.


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I cant wait to catch darkrai and walk into the sailers house! I wanna see the kids reaction! hes gonno be all like "Ah help me!" n ill be all like "Ha ha, yer gunnu die st00p3d" and the lil sailrs kidll be all like " No!" and the sailer ll come in and be like "We need another moon wing!" and Ill laugh!

or Ill just put him in my box.


Regarding events, right a letter to pokemon . com, if they get enough, then, thiel...stop?

and no, there arent too many legends, I like em. I hate using em, but maybe eventually w can have regular play and legends play, where we can build a team of legends that actually different from other peoples.

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I'm not very fond of using legendaries but I do like the fact that they're legendary. I mean they're just so... Legendary ^^; If nubs want to exploit the fact that there are so many and give them rubbish movesets let them. Most legendaries can be beaten without much difficulty anyway.


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I don't really mind the mass amount of legendaries these games have provided. I find it fun to collect all of the available legendaries and keep them as trophies to decay in my PC. I don't mind newbies exploiting a full team of legendaries either, as most of these people have terrible movesets and don't havn't had much experience in competitive gameplay (I can't even count how many times I've defeated entire teams of uber Pokemon with a simple Milotic/Heracross).

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QUICK! WE NED AN IP ADDRESS CHECK STAT!

You just said the same thing....Why?


I never acknowledged the fact that it was against the law to have the same opinion as someone else.

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QUICK! WE NED AN IP ADDRESS CHECK STAT!

You just said the same thing....Why?

I like em as trophies, but I also like giving perfect natures, DVs, EVs, movesets, and raise em to lvl 100, i dont know why, Its just fun to be able to pull out an awsome Mewtwo whenever the heck you want. Sometimes, when my brothers not looking, I replace em for fun Hell lose anyway, so its not like it matters, but its awsome to do to him...

HEY, you switched your charizard with a heatran, your not bieng FAIR!

Tell that to the Mewtwo you just switched on me.

Thats cause I knew you were gonna cheat! YOUR UGLY!

1st, what if I didnt, and 2nd, is that the best thing you can come up with?

YA MAYBE IT IS!

Your Mewtwo fainted.

AAAAAH! :cry:

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Well, I think if people know how to train a good party, legendaries can still be above "n00b" level. You just have to pay attention and make sure you teach it fitting moves. *has Palkia on main team*

But yea, they're kind of like trophies for me too. I was kind of thinking about getting a GameShark to get Arceus and what not.


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There are way too many Legendaries this generation. I remember the good ole days of RBE where you could easily find & catch 4/5. After that, around the time of GSC, continuing w/RSE, there were a lot more Legedaries that now fled if you found them & had to use a ridiculous amount of Ultra Balls to catch them (Of course I caught Zapdos & Articuno w/regualar Pokeballs) Now in the current generation, there are too many that can't even be caught normally in the game & even if you are able to, there are too mnay conditions to meet just to encounter them. Plus there are a lot more that flee these days. It was nice when all that fled were the Dogs. Now every damn thing next to Abra has to flee!!!! This is a bunch of crap IMHO.

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i almost have all the legenderies and they r all awsome.

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I agree with the previous remarks about the four regis-lame. Ditto for the three legendary psychics (Uxie, etc), Heatran (wtf), Cresselia (wtf?!) and Shaymin (WTHF?!?!). But I think that I speak for many when I say that Darkrai, Palkia, Dialga, and Arceus are fun additions, even if you can still make a killer team without them. But for me, Mew will forever be my favorite, and only true, legendary.


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what I really hate about the legendaries is the way Nintendo cops out on their design.

the bird and dog trios were different enough both in looks and attacks to be considered individual pokemon. but the regis and the uxie trios look far too similar and have attacks and stats that are almost identical to each other , they can't be considered different pokemon since what small differences do exist are too insignificant. likewise for Latios and Latias.

Heatran and Cresselia are funky but Regigigas and Shaymin are pretty naff.


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I really like the signature moves. Something to make that certain pokemon stand out. The graphics are beautiful, and yeah, trophies.
So no, I love legendaries (go Latios!) and the more the merrier.

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Lets add 150 new legendaries to the game!11!1one!111one!1!1111one!1!!11!1!!one!

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Kryten wrote:
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Getting that hedgehog thing is pointless. It looks absolutely crap and you pay a gazillion (£/$/E/?) to get to an event for a video game save. Awfully organized.

Gahh!!!! H ow dare you say that!!!! Shaymin is amazing. Its stats at lv. 100 are 200 and over!!! :evil:

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