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| Author: | VioletViolent [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:09 pm ] |
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Does togekiss' hustle ability increase the power of only moves based on his attack stat or special attack stat aswell? please reply if you know. thanks. |
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| Author: | The Jonatron [ Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:12 pm ] |
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Questions Thread? Hustle=BAD poor attk (too poor for husle) Sp attks would suffer. |
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| Author: | The Obsidian Wolf [ Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:02 pm ] |
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The Jonatron wrote: Questions Thread?
Hustle=BAD poor attk (too poor for husle) Sp attks would suffer. Uh, what? Hustle isn't a nature you know, and doesn't increase one at the expense of another. I think it increases both, but I'm not 100% sure. But still, Serene Grace is better, as it's easier to hax your way to victory with it (Air Slash, 40% Flinch or so...HAXXY) |
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| Author: | Taser [ Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:29 pm ] |
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lolstop wrote: Hustle: Damage from physical attacks is 1.5 times, but average accuracy is only 80%. You'd be surprising how bad 80% accuracy can be, too. Let's just say that Thunder's accuracy is only slightly lower. And if you're taking 80% of an accuracy rate that might not already be 100%... Agreed, everyone would much rather rock a Serene Grace 'Kiss. 30% flinch chance, times two from Serene Grace is 60%. |
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| Author: | Case [ Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:06 pm ] |
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Taser wrote: lolstop wrote: Hustle: Damage from physical attacks is 1.5 times, but average accuracy is only 80%. You'd be surprising how bad 80% accuracy can be, too. Let's just say that Thunder's accuracy is only slightly lower. And if you're taking 80% of an accuracy rate that might not already be 100%... Agreed, everyone would much rather rock a Serene Grace 'Kiss. 30% flinch chance, times two from Serene Grace is 60%. Does is explicitly state that it is 80% of the move's normal accuracy rate? I was under the impression that it means the average accuracy of all physical moves is just 80%. And even if that's not the case, I'm guessing this means you never use Stone Edge, Focus Blast on Alakazam, Cross Chop, or Sing on Blissey because they have 80% or less accuracy. Also, Serene Grace Togekiss is cheap, incredibly cheap. Cheap as in more cheap then Double Team, which has many valid counters but is still banned. |
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| Author: | Taser [ Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:50 am ] |
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^I would think that's what it meant, since some moves obviously have less than 80% already and to raise some accuracy and lower others would be... odd. I could be wrong though. Serene Grace Togekiss is nowhere near comparable to Double Team in "cheapness." Flinchax is strategy--just an incredibly annoying one. As long as you're prepared for it (which you should, it's quite a prominent pokemon in the metagame) all you have to do is simply outspeed it and kill. |
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| Author: | Bushin [ Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:56 am ] |
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Yeah flinch grace is awesome... I won a battle agaisnt a whole team with  {salamence}{kingdra} using a
 @leftovers
serene grace headbutt/Ancientpower/curse/thunderwave...(Emerald) And  is even more evil....
Great defences,Great Sp.Att... And wide movepool ... |
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| Author: | The Jonatron [ Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:39 pm ] |
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Yeah, srry, sleepy again... I was assuming it didn't effect Special Moves and that the Acc problem did. |
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