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The one I use:

{clefable} @ Leftovers
Modest / Calm | Magic Guard
252 SA, 252 SD, 6 HP
~Calm Mind
~Wish
~Ice Beam
~Shock Wave / Thunderbolt

Special Sweeper, Special Sponge and Bolt-Beamer.


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Gnaaye wrote:
The one I use:

{clefable} @ Leftovers
Modest / Calm | Magic Guard
252 SA, 252 SD, 6 HP
~Calm Mind
~Wish
~Ice Beam
~Shock Wave / Thunderbolt

Special Sweeper, Special Sponge and Bolt-Beamer.


Look here, that´s quite a nice set for her, but I´ve got another one with the same principle of Magic Guard.

Clefable @ Toxic Orb
[Neutral Nature]/Brave (It doesn´t need speed) | Magic Guard

~ Facade
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunder Wave / Sweet Kiss / Toxic / [Whatever passing move]

Basically, the essence of this is to attack with an STABed 70 base powered attack which base power has been doubled thanks to Toxic Orb, yes, the effect of Toxic Orb is still on, but thanks to the Magic Guard, Clefable loses no HP just for being poisoned. You also got a Special Boltbeamer... and stuff...

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Alkhazor wrote:
{kyogre} modest
drizzle @ shell bell, because I can.
252 spd 252 sp atk 6 HP

Surf
Thunder
Ice beam
Earth power, if it can learn that. If not, then... meh somthing to tackle electric types.


Kyogre's best moveset probably involves Water Spout and a Choice Scarf...(Maybe Water Spout/Ice Beam/Thunder/filler would work, with a filler being Surf/Hydro Pump for a Water attack at low HP, Waterfall for Blissey, and Ancientpower so Shedinja can't try to wall Kyogre).

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Hey I have 2 untouched Shinies that I would like to clone and then EV train. They are Horsea and Bagon. Bagon is of Hardy nature and Horsea is Modest. Any good movesets/EV ideas for these two would be greatly appreciated.

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What would be a good moveset (along with nature, item, and EVs) for a Lucario? I've been hearing from everyone that its soooo great, and I'd like to try out a really good one. Thanks!

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I'm training a Garchomp and I was wondering, fire fang or crunch?

Crunch has power and the (slim) chance of lowering defence, fire fang gets ice weakness. Opinions?

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Although Garmchomp's main weakness is Ice, it won't always be an Ice-type who uses it, unless the opponents wants STAB, and even then there area majority of Ice-types that are also Water-types, so the FireFang would do normal damage. Cruch does at least normal damage to almost all types (I think it does half to Dark types, but I don't wanna look it up :p) and has slightly better acc., so I'd say go with Crunch, even thoug it has 5 less power.

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Crunch has more power....Thanks I think I'll do that, I have a drifblim and empoleon to take care of frossglass anyways. Me raichu for the rest.

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Brick break can work too, strong against darks, ice and normals...
but still, SE brick break does the same amount as a STAB EQ...

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SpacialRender wrote:
What would be a good moveset (along with nature, item, and EVs) for a Lucario? I've been hearing from everyone that its soooo great, and I'd like to try out a really good one. Thanks!

No one seems to notice my above posts...

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SpacialRender wrote:
What would be a good moveset (along with nature, item, and EVs) for a Lucario? I've been hearing from everyone that its soooo great, and I'd like to try out a really good one. Thanks!


{lucario} @ Shell Bell
Modest | Steadfast
252 SA, 252 Spd, the rest at SD
~Calm Mind
~Aura Sphere
~Shadow Ball
~Dark Pulse/Dragon Pulse/HP Grass/Psychic/Flash Cannon
^^The one I suggest.

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Hey I have 2 untouched Shinies that I would like to clone and then EV train. They are Horsea and Bagon. Bagon is of Hardy nature and Horsea is Modest. Any good movesets/EV ideas for these two would be greatly appreciated.


Wow, shiny Modest Horsea? <3.

{kingdra} @ Lefties
Modest / Timid | Swift Swim, but Sniper is just as fine.
252 Spd, 252 SA, 6 SD
~Rain Dance
~Surf
~Dragon Pulse
~Ice Beam/Flash Cannon/Signal Beam

{salamence} @ Shell Bell
Hardy | Intimidate
252 Spd, 252 Atk, 6 HP
~Dragon Dance
~Dragon Claw
~Fire Fang
~Aerial Ace

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Thanks for the Kingdra moveset, but my shiny Bagon couldn't learn Dragon Dance. Its an Egg Move, isn't it? And I'm not gonna go breeding away til I get a shny Bagon with Dragon Dance, am I? :roll:
Anything that would do as well or better than Dragon Dance I could teach it?

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No DD? Well, use Crunch instead and give it a choice band. 'Tis no better than DDMence but it's just as fine.

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how do you get HP fire?

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For my {rayquaza} i normally have:

{rayquaza} with leftovers and a quirky nature

Thunder
Dragon Claw
Shadow Claw
Fly

It usually works well with me


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hey i've got that moveset for my rayquaza only mine is:

{rayquaza}@chesto/lum

thunder
shadow claw
outrage
fly

funny huh

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empoleon99 wrote:
how do you get HP fire?

I couldn't find a guide about it in Psypoke, so here's Serebii's guide: http://www.lolstop/games/hidden-power.shtml

empoleon99 wrote:
hey i've got that moveset for my rayquaza only mine is:
{rayquaza}@chesto/lum
thunder
shadow claw
outrage
fly

funny huh

Rayquaza has a huge movepool, don't waste it. It can pull off many movesets well. Go with either Dragon Dance/Aerial Ace/Extremespeed/Dragon Claw (Dragondance set) or Draco Meteor/Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Fire Blast (Specs set).

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mine usually has draco plate
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dragon claw
dragon pulse
aerial ace
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I wrote:
Rayquaza has a huge movepool, don't waste it. It can pull off many movesets well. Go with either Dragon Dance/Aerial Ace/Extremespeed/Dragon Claw (Dragondance set) or Draco Meteor/Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Fire Blast (Specs set).

Sorry to be rude, but your moveset SUCKS. I don't know a polite-r way to say this. Two dragon moves? Draco Plate? Fly? Two Flying moves? WTF?

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I see a lot of people using this as a "Post your moveset" or "Moveset Help" thread.

Why aren't we discussing the finer points of what would make a good moveset?

I mean blaiziken only got his critiken set suggested, which I can't believe is his best set.

You need a lot of luck just getting it moving, and he has other very strong options.


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What would be the best moveset for a hippowdon? I'm thinking
{hippowdon}@Leftovers
252HP/Atk 252Def 6Atk/Hp
Slack Off
Stockpile/ Curse
EQ
Fang?

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{hippowdon} @ Leftovers
Relaxed | Sandstream
252 Def, 129 Atk, 129 HP
~Curse
~Slack Off
~Earthquake
~Crunch

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I don't particularly like this moveset, but...

{castform} @ Quick Claw
Modest/Timid Nature
252 Sp Atk 252 Spd 6 HP/Def/Sp Def
-Weather Ball
-Rain Dance
-Sunny Day
-Hail


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