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Can anyone come up with good moveset for Rampardos, Alakazam, Vaporeon, And Porygon-Z?

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Kabutops wrote:
Can anyone come up with good moveset for Rampardos, Vaporeon, And Porygon-Z?


Well, I can do Porygon-Z:

Porygon-Z @ Wise Glasses
Adaptability
Modest
252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP

Nasty Plot
Ice Beam / Thunderbolt / Dark Pulse
Ice Beam / Thunderbolt / Dark Pulse
Tri-Attack

I think that should work. Note that Tri-Attack gets A LOT of power from STAB, Nasty Plot, Wise Glasses, and Adaptability. Not to mention Porygon-Z's high Sp.Atk.

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Did someone say "moveset"?

Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf
Timid | Adaptability
252 Spd, 252 SA, 6 HP
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Beam
~ Hyper Beam
~ HP Ground

Rampardos @ Choice Scarf
Jolly | Mold Breaker
252 Spd, 252 Atk, 6 HP
~ Pursuit
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Brick Break

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Calm | Water Absorb
252 SDef, 129 HP, 129 Def
~ Wish
~ Surf
~ Haze
~ Acid Armor

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what would be a good moveset for cresselia, giratina, azelf, and stararaptor?


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I use basic attacks on my staraptor >_>[/img]

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Staraptor@ Focus stash/Life Orb
252 Attack 252 Speed

Close Combat
Brave Bird
Endeavor
Quick attack


Azelf@ Choice Scarf/Life Orb
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Explosion/Nasty plot


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^^ Would be great if azelf could actually learn Ice Beam
This is what I use for my Cresselia set it would have different IVs than yours so the EV Spread would too
{cresselia}@Leftovers
232Sp.Def 232Hp 32Def
Rest
Sleep Talk
Charge Beam
Ice Beam
With my IVs gives max leftovers recovery.

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mead1ey wrote:
^^ Would be great if azelf could actually learn Ice Beam


Hot damn!! lol that makes me mad...cause i thought Azelf can learn ice beam cause someone used that on me and i didnt bother lookin it up cause i figured it can learn ice beam cause it can learn alot of other special moves....now that i looked it up and saw that it cant..now i know that person hacks...thank you...now i really have something to prove he really hacks :D


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I´ve been working on this project of mine and have been preparing a party of BL/UU pokes and I´ve come to this set for Absol.

{absol}@Lum Berry/Shell Bell
Adamant/Jolly|Super Luck
~ Magic Coat
~ Night Slash
~ Psycho Cut
~ Snatch

Many would see this set and think it´s lacking Fire Blast, that is one of the other options (probably instead of Snatch and those SA-reducing Natures). So yeah, M-Coat is the best you can pull when facing Double Status-orientated sets for Gardevoir or Vileplume, whereas Snatch is to sieze all Calm Mind/Bulk Up/Subs opponents and this includes the variations of Alakazam and Blissey. Sure, F-Blast would take care of Steelix and Skarm, but since Snatch needs lots of prediction, it would go there.

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This is the best Absol set IMO
Adamant {absol}@Leftovers
252Atk 252Spd 6Hp
Counter
Swords Dance
Stone Edge (pending)
Sucker Punch (pending)

Counter-Sash Sucker Punching Absol. This thing is an absolute beast, being able to Swords Dance in the face of just about anything then when they finally hit you and you hold on with Sash, you can either Counter it back or start punching the crap out of things. Seriously able to take down tough pokemon with 786 Attack after just one Swords Dance.

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anybody up for blissey?


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Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold | Natural Cure
252 Def, 252 SDef, 6 HP
~Aromatherapy
~Counter / Thunder Wave
~Softboiled
~Seismic Toss

Standard. Bliss has gazillion tons of HP, so no need to go overjealous with HP. A Bliss with no HP investment gets 651 HP. Seismic Toss because Bliss has sucky attack stats, Softboiled is to recover *gasp*. The decision between Counter and Thunder Wave are up to you. Counter can OHKO pretty much every physical attacker, but Thunder Wave can shut down Ghosts and Focus Punchers which trouble Bliss hard.

Here thou go.

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Azumarill anybody?

Azumarill @ Leftovers
Adamant OR Impish | Huge Power
252 atk, 129 spd, 64 def, 64 sp def 4 HP

Waterfall (STAB)
Brick Break (Blissey, as people expect a S. Sweeper Azumarill)
Ice Punch (Grass Counter)
Substitute (With the defenses, it should be able to last a couple of turns as the substitute)

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what would be a good moveset for entei? I caught a jolly one and was thinking along the lines of physical sweeper. {entei}

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Ghett0 wrote:
Azumarill anybody?

Azumarill @ Leftovers
Adamant OR Impish | Huge Power
252 atk, 129 spd, 64 def, 64 sp def 4 HP

Waterfall (STAB)
Brick Break (Blissey, as people expect a S. Sweeper Azumarill)
Ice Punch (Grass Counter)
Substitute (With the defenses, it should be able to last a couple of turns as the substitute)

Oh Ghett0, no. Impish? Azumarill is a freakng physical attacker, dude. Not a wall. Also, LEFTOVERS? It also has 513 EVs. Azu is always a physical attacker as it's not gonna do sh*t with its 60 Base SA. And if you are running Sub, pair it with Focus Punch not BB.

I say:

~Substitute
~Focus Punch
~Ice Punch
~Waterfall

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tell me whats wrong with this

blissey@lefties
bold
129 hp, 129 sp.def, 129 att
~EQ
~T-bolt
~ice beam
~softboiled

thats my blissey


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keltic torchic wrote:
tell me whats wrong with this

blissey@lefties
bold
129 hp, 129 sp.def, 129 att
~EQ
~T-bolt
~ice beam
~softboiled

thats my blissey


Blissey has NO attack what so ever...it's so weak seismic toss does more dammage than all of those moves....seriously blissey is not someone you wanna be an attacker with not unless your doing seismic toss....it's a special wall, not something that's aiming to kill ppl...and its used to annoy ppl with T-wave and softboiled....


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yea..i dunno how to teach him seismic toss and my blissey has 31 ivs in attack


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ooo well the only way to get a blissey with seismic toss is to have emerald...or have one of your friends get it for you in emerald...


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keltic torchic wrote:
tell me whats wrong with this

blissey@lefties
bold
129 hp, 129 sp.def, 129 att
~EQ
~T-bolt
~ice beam
~softboiled

It makes Ghett0 look good. Seriously. Lefties, Bold, Seismic Toss okay but only 387 EVs? EARTHQUAKE? EQ? BLISS HAS THE WORST ATTACK FOR A FINAL EVO. Clear enough?

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yea..i dunno how to teach him seismic toss and my blissey has 31 ivs in attack

No need, slap Calm Mind over EQ and Change ze EV spread to 252 Def/129 SA/129 SDef as CM boosts those stats. Not one of the best Blisses, but it can work that way.

azura:
{entei} @ Leftovers
Naughty | Pressure
252 HP, 129 SA, 129 SDef
~Roar
~Flamethrower
~Calm Mind
~Will-o-wisp

A rather defensive Entei. Calm Mind to boost its SDef, Will-o-Wisp indirectly raises Defense. Flamethrower is for STAB and to take advantage of Calm Mind. Roar is too obvious.

Or you can run an offensive set. 115atk/90sa/100spd is not bad, but it has sucky movepool. It's offensive movepool basically consists of Flamethrower/Overheat, Extrasensory, Solar Beam, Iron Tail, Bite, Return, Shadow Ball, Stone Edge, Rock Smash, and Mud-Slap. Ew. If you want an offensive Entei; get a Mild/Naughty one, choose 4 random moves mentioned above, 252spd/129atk/129sa EV spread, and slap a Scarf on it.

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Guys, can you suggest me some movesets for the following Pokémon? I'm thinking about battling the E4 with them:

Lucario, Dialga, Luxray, Staraptor, Golduck and Infernape. The movesets I use basically [FAIL], so, uh, could you give me a hand? Oh, yeah, it would be awesome if they could all be Physical or Special Sweepers.

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Any recommendations for a Misdreavus and/or Toxicroak?


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Galar wrote:
Guys, can you suggest me some movesets for the following Pokémon? I'm thinking about battling the E4 with them:

Lucario, Dialga, Luxray, Staraptor, Golduck and Infernape. The movesets I use basically [FAIL], so, uh, could you give me a hand? Oh, yeah, it would be awesome if they could all be Physical or Special Sweepers.

Thanks in advance. :p


umm have you EV trained with them? cause it's alot easier to beat the E4 after EV trainin...anyways


Lucario Mixed Sweeper
Aura Sphere
EQ
Psychic
Dark Pulse

Dialga
Roar of time
Earthpower
Flashcannon
idk the other move

Staraptor/ physical Sweeper
Brave Bird
Close Combat
Arial Ace
U-turn

Infernape
Mixed Sweeper
Close Combat
Flamethrower
Grass knot
Nasty plot

Golduck/Special Sweeper
Hydro Pump/Surf
Psychic
hypnosis
Ice beam

Luxray?Physical Sweeper
Thunder fang
Ice Fang
Crunch
Thunderwave

Those are the movesets...try usin it..it might work...and here's what you do
Starapter for the First guy...for bugs and if staraptor dies then Golduck
Infernape's Grass knot for the ground and if that doesnt work then Golduck
Golduck for the Fire guy and if that doesnt work then use dailga
Lucario or Dialga for the Psychic dude or if that doesnt work then use luxray's crunch
For Cynthia use any of those....


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Oh, thanks a lot for the suggestions! And, no, I don't think I've EV trained them, I don't even know what that means. D:

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'Nape? Use this;

Infernape @ Wide Lens
Hasty or Naive | Blaze
EVs : 127 atk, 127 sp atk, 255 spd

Thunder Punch
Shadow Claw
Flamethrower
Focus Blast



I know my movesets suck, but atleast take it into consideration.

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