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Author: | 5506 [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:53 am ] |
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Ok as I you probably already know there are no Competitive Movesets for the 4th Generation Pokemon. Don't worry dear friends I have made some now, remember though these aren't completely done for example I'm missing pokemon such as: and the reason being though is there are movesets already available for and so I didn't think it would be neccassary to create one however if u want me adding some just feel free to ask. another thing please remember I'm doing the best that I can I know the movesets aren't perfect but just let me know if I'm making any mistakes It makes my job alot easier and remember these are strictly movesets made by me there aren't standard movesets you don't have to use them if you don't want to I'm merly suddgesting anyway enjoy Earthquake Synthesis Superpower Curse / Amnesia Flamethrower Brick Break / Close Combat Calm Mind / Bulk Up Slack Off Surf / Hydro Pump Ice Beam Flash Cannon Rest / Roar Aerial Ace Return / Endeavor U-Turn / Steel Wing Roost Amnesia Superpower Return / Super Fang Rest X-Scissor Swords Dance Aerial Ace Brick Break / Return Thunderbolt / Discharge Charge Crunch Rest Synthesis Sunny Day / Extrasensory / Toxic Spikes Solarbeam / Energy Ball Sludge Bomb Rock Slide Earthquake Brick Break Rest Iron Head Ancient Power / Rock Slide / Double Edge Toxic Rest Air Slash / Aerial Ace U-Turn / Bug Buzz Camouflage / Safeguard Psychic / Energy Ball Aerial Ace Attack Order Heal Order / Confuse Ray Sludge Bomb / Power Gem Thunderbolt / Discharge U-Turn Super Fang / Return Fake Tears / Attract Crunch Brick Break Surf Attract / Toxic Sunny Day Solarbeam Safeguard / Aromatherapy Toxic / Hidden Power (Water) Surf / Brine Earthquake Ice Beam Recover Shadow Ball Thunderbolt / Psychic Calm Mind Rest Return Jump Kick / Drain Punch Mirror Coat Thunder Punch / Ice Punch / Fire Punch Calm Mind / Curse Shadow Ball Psychic / Thunderbolt / Dark Pulse Rest Drill Peck Roost / Featherdance Faint Attack Psycho Shift / Mean Look Return / Body Slam Aerial Ace / Faint Attack U-Turn / Shadow Claw Rest / Toxic Poison Jab Crunch Hidden Power (Water) / Roar Rest Earthquake Rock Slide Substitute / Trick Room Rest Chatter Roost Return / Façade Substitute / Featherdance Curse / Confuse Ray Dark Pulse Shadow Ball / Ominous Wind Calm Mind Dragon Claw / Outrage Earthquake Swords Dance Rest Close Combat / Aura Sphere Swords Dance / Calm Mind Flash Cannon / ExtremeSpeed Rest / Roar Earthquake Crunch Slack Off Curse / Rock Slide Poison Jab / Cross Poison Crunch Swords Dance Rest Brick Break Poison Jab Swords Dance / Bulk Up Rest Power Whip / Razor Leaf Swords Dance Synthesis Return / Crunch Surf / Brine Ice Beam U-Turn Rest Wood Hammer Blizzard Rest / Swords Dance Rock Slide / Brick Break Thunderbolt / Discharge Shadow Ball Rest Confuse Ray / Hidden Power (Water) Psychic Giga Drain Thunder Wave Calm Mind Psychic Calm Mind Thunder Bolt / Ice Beam Rest Psychic Calm Mind Rest Flamethrower / Thunderbolt Flash Cannon Dragon Pulse Rest Safeguard Dragon Pulse Surf Thunderbolt / Flamethrower / Ice Beam Rest Lava Plume / Heat Wave Flash Cannon Rest Sunny Day / Dragon Pulse Return / Façade Superpower Zen Headbutt Confuse Ray / Thunder Wave Dragon Pulse Calm Mind Shadow Ball Rest / Thunder Wave Lunar Dance Moonlight / Thunder Wave / Calm Mind Psychic Ice Beam / Energy Ball Rain Dance Surf Ice Beam Rest Dark Pulse Psychic Calm Mind Dark Void Energy Ball / Seed Flare Psychic Rest Sleep Talk Recover Swords Dance Judgement / ExtremeSpeed Aerial Ace |
Author: | OriGinaL [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:05 am ] |
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Take a look at some of these. http://www.psypokes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13868 |
Author: | GarchompGoneWild [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:17 am ] |
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Your forgetting Natures and EVs. |
Author: | thekiller0703 [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:12 am ] |
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Original; this is a guide on competitive movesets, not standard movesets. And we need at the very least natures/EV's, not like we can't do that ourselves, but... |
Author: | ShadowTyranitar [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:22 am ] |
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You shouldnt have Rest on so many Pokes.... |
Author: | thekiller0703 [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:32 am ] |
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And you don't have most new evolutions for old pokes... |
Author: | AABM [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:49 am ] |
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5506, if I may suggest some possible movesets for a few of those pokes, I shall tell you: Reflect Swagger/Sweet Kiss Thunder Wave Super Fang Taunt Metal Burst Curse / Toxic / Swagger Double Edge / Rock Slide / Body Slam Return Hypnosis Shadow Claw / Faint Attack Aerial Ace / U-Turn / Attract If I may not post these kind of things, don´t pay attention then |
Author: | 5506 [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:16 pm ] |
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ok sorry I'll take a look at some of the movesets again I just thought that Rest was a good move for pokes that need to Recover after battling. and yes APB I like your movesets a little bit simular to mine but I see what your trying to do with those very good |
Author: | Omnipotent1 [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:08 pm ] |
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For Torterra, I like Earthquake Toxic Leech Seed (Any grass move) just because this has helped me out on past games |
Author: | SAIRAM [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:33 pm ] |
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Torterra could have wood hammer instaed of superpower. |
Author: | sid18 [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:20 am ] |
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What's the point in movesets for just the new pokemon, since this is for competitive battling most competitive battlers will use pokemon from other generations. The old competitive movesets for the older pokemon are not reliable for diamond and pearl since there are now new moves and the physical/special attack split therefore a list of competitive movesets for the 4th generation would only really be useful if it contained movesets for all pokemon and as others have said included natures and EVs. |
Author: | OriGinaL [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:22 am ] |
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thekiller0703 wrote: Original; this is a guide on competitive movesets, not standard movesets.
And we need at the very least natures/EV's, not like we can't do that ourselves, but... I realize that, I was just pointing him in a good direction. For example, the most common format of typing of movesets, some pretty decent examples, and ratings/notes. |
Author: | 5506 [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:03 am ] |
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Ok Ok I understand so I messed up preety badly but thats ok thats what all your feedback is for. Anyway I'd just like to know how I'm doing so far like give me roughly an Idea if u like any of my other movesets |
Author: | Zero Cool [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:57 am ] |
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Well I feel as though some of the movesets aren't very diverse, in all honesty you can make "strategies" and movesets but every good idea has a flaw, trust me. Ex. Torterra is not divers, Crunch for dark types is a must. While Synthesis can be good the only thing bringin down its HP will be fire or ice and when making synthesis bad and Leftovers great. Infernape is not a good mixed sweeper, Fire Punch over flamethrower or vise versa. But it is recommended due to his movepool that you make it physical. Empoleon looks good, and why on earth would you make a competitive moveset for Bibarel... No one should ever use that thing on Wi-Fi. Bronzong makes for a much better toxic annoyer than a Phys Sweeper. These are just a few things I noticed at a quick glance, and In Depth viewing of this may be a little more harsh. Ok so all in all you need to list EV spreads and natures, as well as take time to rethink your ideas. It may also be better to get an idea of what is used on Wi-Fi such as OU and UU pokes so that you wont waste time on pokes like Bibarel. If you need any info feel free to contact me. - ClassicK |
Author: | Bobsymalone [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:06 am ] |
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5506, I take it you like Rest? =P |
Author: | 5506 [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:03 pm ] |
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Bobsymalone wrote: 5506, I take it you like Rest? =P Yes very much so anyway CLaSsicK I guess you are right about the thing but I can't help but feel like making movesets for all of the 4th generation pokemon just in case anyone was curious or wanted to use the much lower used Pokemon I mean hey I use Slaking and not many trainers do I teach mine Hyper Beam since it misses a turn anyway and it also gets STAB. by the way thanks for the feedback I'm at least glad to hear I did something right with |
Author: | Bobsymalone [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:08 pm ] |
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Lots of people use Slaking like that. Well, *used*. Hyper beam is special now, so I'd imagine people replace it with Giga Impact. Same as Hyper Beam, but physical. And the problem with Rest is that you're asleep afterwards. For undefensive pokemon, this is usually fatal. Rampardos, for example, won't survive to wake up. |
Author: | 5506 [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:47 pm ] |
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Bobsymalone wrote: Lots of people use Slaking like that. Well, *used*. Hyper beam is special now, so I'd imagine people replace it with Giga Impact. Same as Hyper Beam, but physical.
And the problem with Rest is that you're asleep afterwards. For undefensive pokemon, this is usually fatal. Rampardos, for example, won't survive to wake up. I realize that I just thought with Chesto Attached any {pokemon} that knows rest will instantly wake up that was my plan having so many Pokemon learn the move. |
Author: | Bobsymalone [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:53 pm ] |
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Fair enough, but also consider that a lot of pokemon won't survive the one turn they use to rest. Rampardos for example, again, could be knocked out in one hit at full health, so rest would be very situational, if viable at all. Rest could possibly be used to undo things like hail, sandstorm, confusion damage, etc, but still. |
Author: | SpacialRender [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:36 pm ] |
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I just started EV training my Gallade, and I'd like to know a good moveset for him. I was thinking of teaching him Leaf Blade, X-Scissor, Night Slash, and Psycho Cut. Please tell me if this is a disastrous thing to do. Thanks! |
Author: | 5506 [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:46 pm ] |
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Quote: I just started EV training my Gallade, and I'd like to know a good moveset for him. I was thinking of teaching him Leaf Blade, X-Scissor, Night Slash, and Psycho Cut. Please tell me if this is a disastrous thing to do. Thanks! Im sorry but in my oppinion that is a very disastrous thing to do very rarely if ever should a Pokemon have only attacking moves. Here try this: Close Combat or Brick Break (Your Choice) Psycho Cut Wish / Confuse Ray Swords Dance / Bulk Up Sorry if you can't get Wish or Confuse Ray also u can try this: Attract or Thunder Wave. |
Author: | AABM [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:59 pm ] |
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If I may suggest an Idea of a Gallade´s moveset I´m working on, is this. Gallade . Hypnosis . Focus Punch . Wish/Destiny Bond/Confuse Ray . Night Slash/Psycho Cut Sleep-punching opponents is one good strategy, the third move is really your choice, it will workk if you know how to use it, and last one is to get rid of Gengar (and other Ghosts). |
Author: | 5506 [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:44 pm ] |
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AABM wrote: If I may suggest an Idea of a Gallade´s moveset I´m working on, is this.
Gallade . Hypnosis . Focus Punch . Wish/Destiny Bond/Confuse Ray . Night Slash/Psycho Cut Sleep-punching opponents is one good strategy, the third move is really your choice, it will workk if you know how to use it, and last one is to get rid of Gengar (and other Ghosts). Nothing against this strategy and all but isn't Hypnosis a bit risky? I mean like even if it was to work (because it can miss from time to time) but if your opponent wakes up immedeatly (Which is unlikely but still possible) then your Focus Punch won't work because if your attacked you'll instantly loose your focus and it would be for nothing which leaves you with only 1 gauranteed Attack which is good by the way [Night Slash or Psycho Cut] another downside to this is if a Pokemon that you are battling can't be put to sleep because of a special ability it posseses or its own ability also puts you to sleep as well then your in some real trouble. Another outside factor could be if your opponent had a Chesto attatched that was intended for a Rest/Chesto combo that was triggered early sure u negate the strategy but that also puts you back to square 1 which brings me to my point although I know you mean well with these movesets but I think there a bit risky to pull off. |
Author: | ShadowTyranitar [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:06 pm ] |
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I really dont like recovery moves on Sweepers, because of the fact that their defenses never suit it. I dont like the idea of a recovery move on Gallade, especially Wish, which takes time to work. |
Author: | thekiller0703 [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:22 pm ] |
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Gallade@Choice Scarf Jolly, 252 Att, 252 Sp., 6 HP CC Night Slash Psycho Cut Leaf Blade Outruns almost anything, huge type advantages, you name it |
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