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Taser
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 256 Location: On the back of a stampeding Tauros squealing, "WHEEE!"
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Remember how someone started a topic about Power Trick Shuckle?
Imagine... a double battle with something that knows Skill Swap... ridding Regigigas of its terrible ability that halves its attack and speed for the first five turns.
I never was fond of using 00bers, but just imagining that is funny, since Regigigas is kind of infamous for being terrible... then someone uses Skill Swap and your opponent is like
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Wed May 30, 2007 5:12 pm |
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Physalis
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:07 pm Posts: 76 Location: I'm on the moon!
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sort of like using skill swap with slaking, which is somewhat common, once traunt is gone, that thing is a monster
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Wed May 30, 2007 5:31 pm |
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Selsix
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:17 pm Posts: 95 Location: The Orre Region
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you think THATS scary? imagine if a spiritomb or a sableye could skill swap a shedinja...i know it's impossible but can you say unstoppable pokemon?
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Wed May 30, 2007 6:04 pm |
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FaceLess
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:59 pm Posts: 399
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Wouldn't getting rid of the ability just stop it's stats from recovering?
I was under the impression that it's ability causes it to go in with huge stat reduction and recover 1 level every turn.
But that could have been entirely made up.
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Wed May 30, 2007 7:38 pm |
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Ando
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 6:21 pm Posts: 52 Location: US
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FaceLess wrote: Wouldn't getting rid of the ability just stop it's stats from recovering?
I was under the impression that it's ability causes it to go in with huge stat reduction and recover 1 level every turn.
But that could have been entirely made up.
I don't have a Regigigas, but I'm pretty sure it just halves it, then after 5 turns restores it.
Every time you pull it out.
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Wed May 30, 2007 7:40 pm |
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FaceLess
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:59 pm Posts: 399
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Ando wrote: FaceLess wrote: Wouldn't getting rid of the ability just stop it's stats from recovering?
I was under the impression that it's ability causes it to go in with huge stat reduction and recover 1 level every turn.
But that could have been entirely made up.
I don't have a Regigigas, but I'm pretty sure it just halves it, then after 5 turns restores it.
Every time you pull it out.ah right right. I have no idea where I got the previous idea from.
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Wed May 30, 2007 7:42 pm |
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Sefrin
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 9:49 pm Posts: 180 Location: Forest of Tranquility
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A rather fiendish combo would be Slaking and Rampardos.
Rampardos' Mold Breaker shuts down all other abilites, including slakings Truant, allowing it to attack every turn. Nasty.
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Thu May 31, 2007 12:10 am |
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SAIRAM
Ace Trainer
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:18 pm Posts: 302 Location: India
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Nice combo serfin
Can a Shedinja be Traced?
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Thu May 31, 2007 1:41 am |
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Sefrin
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 9:49 pm Posts: 180 Location: Forest of Tranquility
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yep, shedinjas' wonder guard can be traced. Problem is, the Trace ability will copy the ability of your opponent when he comes into battle, meaning the only way to trace wonder guard is to be fighting against a shedinja, and since it dies so easily no ever uses him anyway.
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Thu May 31, 2007 4:33 pm |
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AABM
Pokemon Ranger
Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:12 am Posts: 510 Location: Where you MOST expect it.
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I was thinking of this Combo, it is in a 2-on-2 battle, and it IS pwety powerful.
Player 1 sent out Typhlosion @ Charcoal & Cherrim @ Heat Rock
Player 2 sent out Scizor & Abomasnow
::Start::
Abomasnow´s Snow Alert Ability causes a Hail.
1st Turn:
Player 1: Cherrim used Sunny Day.
Typh used Protect.
Player 2: Scizor and Abomasnow did some random thing against Typh lol.
Abomasnow´s Hail was canceled and now there´s a Sunny Day coming on, which triggered Cherrim´s ability Flower Gift and now she and Typh are more powerful.
2nd Turn:
Player 1: Cherrim used Helping Hand
Typh used Eruption.
Player 2´s first two pkmn GET PWNT.
Charcoal + STAB + Sunny Bonus + Full HP + Helping Hand + Flower Gift + Opponent´s x4 weakness to Fire = A ridiculously powerful Eruption, thus BEECTORY!
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Thu May 31, 2007 5:06 pm |
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Taser
Ace Trainer
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:51 pm Posts: 256 Location: On the back of a stampeding Tauros squealing, "WHEEE!"
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^Dayum. O_o As if you needed that much of a boost! XD
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Thu May 31, 2007 5:13 pm |
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FaceLess
Ace Trainer
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:59 pm Posts: 399
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Wouldn't the eruption kill the cherrim?
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Thu May 31, 2007 5:15 pm |
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Joey90
Ace Trainer
Joined: Mon May 14, 2007 3:43 am Posts: 396 Location: UK
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Yeah... but even after the cherrim dies there will still be STAB, Carcoal, Full HP and Sunny day in effect, so it will still be pretty powerful
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:26 am |
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Frost
THE POWER IS ON!
Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:29 am Posts: 1581 Location: Purple Ranger
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Sefrin wrote: A rather fiendish combo would be Slaking and Rampardos.
Rampardos' Mold Breaker shuts down all other abilites, including slakings Truant, allowing it to attack every turn. Nasty.
No, that is incorrect. Rampardos/Pinsir's ability, Mold Breaker, only breaks abilities for the opponent's Pokemon that prevent the user from hitting the opponent. For example, Rampardos could hit Azelf with Earthquake because Mold Breaker nullifies Levitate or Pinsir could use Guillotine to OHKO a Pokemon with Sturdy like Magnezone. But Mold Breaker does NOT turn off every Pokemon ability in the game.
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:51 am |
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Shiny Latios
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Joined: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:13 am Posts: 281 Location: In the Cinnabar Lab
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FaceLess wrote: Wouldn't the eruption kill the cherrim?
No, it only affects the opponents.
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:48 am |
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Valentine
Pokemon Master
Joined: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:59 pm Posts: 2399 Location: feel the mambo
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Damn, AABM. I need to try that sometime. D; I wonder what Eruption's power would be then... The only bad thing is that if Abomasnow used something like Ice Beam (or maybe even Icy Wind) against Cherrim, you'd be pretty much left with charcoal and STAB, and possibly Sunny Day.
The Skill Swap with Shedinja sounds pretty awesome, but there is the fact that hardly anyone uses it. >_>
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:49 am |
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Xeeros
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:59 pm Posts: 125
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AABM's combo is good; but it's overkill only against those 2 pokemon. More often than not you're going to be facing an entirely different pair.
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:48 pm |
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Sefrin
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 9:49 pm Posts: 180 Location: Forest of Tranquility
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[quote="Frost"][quote="Sefrin"]A rather fiendish combo would be Slaking and Rampardos.
Rampardos' Mold Breaker shuts down all other abilites, including slakings Truant, allowing it to attack every turn. Nasty.[/quote]
[color=#00b2ee]No, that is incorrect. Rampardos/Pinsir's ability, Mold Breaker, only breaks abilities for the opponent's Pokemon that prevent the user from hitting the opponent. For example, Rampardos could hit Azelf with Earthquake because Mold Breaker nullifies Levitate or Pinsir could use Guillotine to OHKO a Pokemon with Sturdy like Magnezone. But Mold Breaker does NOT turn off every Pokemon ability in the game.[/color][/quote]
Both the game and the psydex state that Mold Breaker "Negates the opponents ability". This would indicate that the opponent no longer has an ability pf any kind as long as Rampardos remains in battle, which is why Earthquake would affect pokemon who would normally have levitate and why OHKO moves affect those who normally have Sturdy. Though you are correct in that mold Breaker only affects the opponent, so Slaking would still have Truant. Damn.
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:11 pm |
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Music Swashbuckler
Dragon Tamer
Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:29 am Posts: 129 Location: Elsewhere
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Technically, couldn't you skill swap a Shedinja that was on your team? Of course, this would only work in a double battle, and the pokemon with skill swap would have to have a HIGH Spd. in order to go first.
Not sure how this all works out so I'm just curious if anyone's done it before.
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:47 am |
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Some Guy
Bug Catcher
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:34 am Posts: 11 Location: Yes
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How would Slaking learn Skill Swap? The Psydex says neither Slakoth, Vigoroth or Slaking could learn it as a TM or an egg move. Is there another way it could learn it?
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:15 am |
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killermagikarp
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Sun May 20, 2007 11:00 am Posts: 74
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It'd be like Hell lol!
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:47 pm |
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eamonn
Psychic Trainer
Joined: Mon May 14, 2007 11:38 am Posts: 65 Location: San Oileán Iathghlas
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AABM wrote: I was thinking of this Combo, it is in a 2-on-2 battle, and it IS pwety powerful.
Player 1 sent out Typhlosion @ Charcoal & Cherrim @ Heat Rock
Player 2 sent out Scizor & Abomasnow
::Start::
Abomasnow´s Snow Alert Ability causes a Hail.
1st Turn:
Player 1: Cherrim used Sunny Day.
Typh used Protect.
Player 2: Scizor and Abomasnow did some random thing against Typh lol.
Abomasnow´s Hail was canceled and now there´s a Sunny Day coming on, which triggered Cherrim´s ability Flower Gift and now she and Typh are more powerful.
2nd Turn:
Player 1: Cherrim used Helping Hand
Typh used Eruption.
Player 2´s first two pkmn GET PWNT.
Charcoal + STAB + Sunny Bonus + Full HP + Helping Hand + Flower Gift + Opponent´s x4 weakness to Fire = A ridiculously powerful Eruption, thus BEECTORY!
1. Charcoal and items like it are crap. A 10% boost is nothing.
2. You're depending on the opponents being 4x weak against Fire. What if they had a Rhyperior and Tyranitar?
3. Cherrim and Typhlosion are pretty bad in battle.
4. Helping hand is crap.
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