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Psydex (and well as Serebii/Smogon/Eevee) List that Magic coat can be learned via tutor in HGSS. However taking any of them to the move tutor it will not be listed to learn.

Applies to Tyrouge, Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee, Hitmontop.


I am wondering why so many places list this as learnable, Only Bulbapedia seems correct, which by them it seems no fighting-types learn it besides Infernape,Meditite,Medicham and Gallade. But I've only game-tested the Hitmons.

Same with Hariyama, would test more but I have virtually no pokes in my HGSS game.

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Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:47 pm
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List of pokemon that learn Magic coat:

Clefairy
Clefable
Jigglypuff
Wigglytuff
Abra
Kadabra
Alakazam
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Slowpoke
Slowbro
Magnemite
Magneton
Drowzee
Hypno
Voltorb
Electrode
Staryu
Starmie
Mr. Mime
Jynx
Porygon
Mewtwo
Mew
Chikorita
Bayleef
Meganium
Hoothoot
Noctowl
Cleffa
Igglybuff
Togepi
Togetic
Natu
Xatu
Espeon
Slowking
Misdreavus
Girafarig
Dunsparce
Corsola
Porygon2
Smoochum
Celebi
Ralts
Kirlia
Gardevoir
Nosepass
Sableye
Meditite
Medicham
Spoink
Grumpig
Lunatone
Solrock
Baltoy
Claydol
Milotic
Kecleon
Shuppet
Banette
Chimecho
Absol
Latias
Latios
Jirachi
Deoxys
Infernape
Bastiodon
Drifloon
Drifblim
Buneary
Lopunny
Mismagius
Chingling
Mime Jr.
Magnezone
Togekiss
Porygon-Z
Gallade
Probopass
Uxie
Mesprit
Azelf
Giratina- Both
Cresselia
Arceus

Pokemon Listed in Psydex/celebii/smogon that do not learn Magic Coat:
Vulpix--
Ninetails--
Psyduck--
Golduck--
Mankey--
Primeape--
Machop--
Machoke--
Machamp--
Gengar--
Hitmonchan--
Hitmonlee--
Tauros--
Sudowoodo--
Aipom--
Houndor--
Houndoom-
Stantler-
Tyrouge--
Hitmontop--
Blaziken
Makuhita--
Hariyama--
Spinda--
Cacnea--
Cacturne--
Chimchar
Monferno
Ambipom--
Bonsly--
Chatot
Riolu--
Lucario--
Croagunk
Toxicroak
Snover--
Abomasnow--

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Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:02 pm
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And you've tested each one of these yourself, huh?

Because at least with us and veekun, we're dumping this information straight from the game - can't say how Smogon and Serebii get theirs, but I would assume it's the same. Which means that if this is wrong, the entire HGSS Tutors set of data is invalid and potentially incorrect, and none of us noticed it. Which, while possible, would be a pretty big oversight by a lot of people.

If you've got the evidence to back you up, by all means, fill us in on the details.

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Prior to posting that list I Tested the hitmon and makuhita family. I just went through and caught/tested Golduck, Machoke, Mankey/Primeape, and none of them learn it (using a Magnemite first to make certain it's the right tutor.) And I'll happily try and run through the pokes I can get and test them over the next few days/weeks.

As far as evidence, either try if for yourself or I could try and make a video and upload it of me taking a poke to a tutor.


This is a complete guess on my part, but the learnset for magic coat may of been combined with the learnset for Role Play, as the list of Role play pokes matches the list of pokes needeing removed from magic coat, http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Role_Play (Except those who learn both)
And all of the pokes I've tested so far learn role play via the same tutor.

Just tested Riolu and Abomasnow, neither learn Magic coat but both learn Role Play, which neither are listed here http://www.psypokes.com/dex/techdex/272/tutored So something is wrong with your list and veekun's as well as Smogon's. Celebii's list seems right for Role play, which going by theirs and Bulbapedia my guess may be right.

Lemme get some more BP and I can upload a pic of either one with role play.


Sorry about the sucky pic quality, but here's Abomasnow learning Role play: (Magic coat is from the same tutor but is not an option.) Snore, Worry Seed, Block, Synthesis, Role Play.
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Tested Tauros, Sudowoodo and aipom/ambipom none learn magic coat.

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Machamp, Houndor, Houndoom tested, none learn Magic coat and all learn Role Play.

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Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:10 pm
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Ninetales, Gengar, Stantler, Spinda, Cacturne have been tested, results are same. At this point I'm 100% confident all that few lest that are listed don't learn Magic coat. Do you want me to test/confirm those who do learn it?

EDIT: Skimming Smogon's fourms I found a thread about this as well: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78875 Basically confirms everything about Magic coat and Role play I've found.

I guess it was noted back in Sept 2010... yet their site is still wrong...

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